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Y-Chromosome Study Confirms Genesis Flood Timeline
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This could throw a wrinkle into Flood debates:

Quote:Y-Chromosome Study Confirms Genesis Flood Timeline
BY JEFFREY P. TOMKINS, PH.D. *  |
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2019




To help resolve the controversy, two scientists, one a molecular biologist and the other a statistician, downloaded newly available DNA sequence for the Y-chromosome that was more comprehensive and covered much longer contiguous DNA regions that had not existed previously. The Y-chromosome is particularly useful in studying human pedigrees and mutations because it has no chromosomal counterpart in the human genome with which to exchange genetic information in a process called recombination. When sperm and egg cells are formed in a person, the 22 chromosome pairs (one derived from the father and one from the mother) will exchange DNA segments with each other. Because this does not occur with the Y-chromosome, it is more genetically stable and thus very useful in genetic clock studies.

In this current study, the authors note that if humans have actually been around for several hundred thousand years or more, they should have accumulated 8 to 59 times the amount of mutations that we currently observe in Y-chromosome DNA sequence. However, the researchers in this current study empirically demonstrate that we only observe about 4,500 years of mutation accumulation in the paternal ancestry contained in the record of the human Y chromosome.



https://www.icr.org/article/y-chromosome...-timeline/
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Science supports the Bible.
Evolution is anti-scientific.
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Adam-XX, take away lower right rib = Eve-XY
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That is not actually...fully correct

there was a genetic bottleneck about 70 thousand years ago with the eruption of Toba....it wiped most of humanity out

calculations say there was only something like 10 to 20 thousand humans alive...That definitely limits your dna pool

that kinda wiped out all sorts of genetic chains so...this theory does not seem to take this into account unless I am missing something....


With every knew release of information, you have to take it with a grain of salt because....

Propaganda is now legal so you have to ask yourself, who or what does this information serve?

2 rules of Conspiracy theory

1) Question everything

2) Trust no one.


Your government lies to you. It has been proven multiple times.

There is an old saying..."fool me once...shame on you....fool me twice...shame on me"

You do not get the opportunity to lie to me twice...I am more alert now.

Any government funded study or data release has the potential to be propaganda, to be bullshit wrapped in a thread of truth....so therefore it is probably a good idea to view all of it with skepticism
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson


"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"...Thomas Jefferson


"Liberty means responsibility, which is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw
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(01-13-2020, 02:50 PM)Guest Wrote: Adam-XX, take away lower right rib = Eve-XY

you got that backwards bro...

female is xx, male is xy

that is why this gender dysphoria nonsense is just a mental disease...

there are two genders....

xx chromosome = female

xy chromosome =male

you are free to pretend to be whatever you want....but...it's all in your head

biologically...

there are 2 genders

and I give no fucks if that pisses someone off
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson


"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"...Thomas Jefferson


"Liberty means responsibility, which is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw
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@Regulus_ Here is a link to the primary study quoted in the article.

https://answersingenesis.org/theory-of-e...lar-clock/

I'm not taking a side, however I think there may be a weakness in the argument, which would be based on their use of datasets that use DNA from individuals living, and in recent decades. They did not use any ancient DNA. The subsets they used to alter the conclusions is based on a switch they employed, going from low-spectrum to high-spectrum datasets.

My issue is, that even if we accept the mutation rates, I do not see how a "beginning" can be established with only a calculated (and expected) mutation rate in present-day DNA, to just "stop" like they propose, at Noah's flood (approx. 4,500 years), or the 6,000 years inclusive, without analyzing ancient DNA mutation rates themselves.

If we accept the science is there to thoroughly distinguish between Y-Chromosome and mtDNA polymorphisms and actual mutations, I still don't see how we can back-engineer or retro-establish the "non-mutated, non-morphed" prime human pair.

It doesn't help that all the scientists involved in this re-application of genetic theory are YEC's, although that alone is to be expected.
For now, I will conclude that their analysis doesn't warrant the extraordinary conclusion that the first human is only 6,000 years old, or that only 3 males are the paternal ancestors of all humans in the last 4,500 years.
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(01-13-2020, 02:50 PM)Guest Wrote: Adam-XX, take away lower right rib = Eve-XY

I do not think it really was the rib as the word for that as I understand it means the curve which when you consider dna is just that, a spiralig curve. We have been told it all and the more you see the more amazing it all is. 1dunno1
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There is no weakness

male is XY

female is XX

we were prescribed roles

man is to be the provider and protector

woman is to be the life bringer and caregiver

and we had to fuck that up with stupid arrogance and need for attention

I am still the protector and provider

my wife is still the life bringer and caregiver....though we aint having anymore kids

we worked within the system the universe provided...we prospered and had a good life

those bucking the system will never have a good life because they are stupid and wrong
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson


"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"...Thomas Jefferson


"Liberty means responsibility, which is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw
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Oops, my mistake. BTW my statement had nothing to do with gender dysphoria, I wasn't even on topic. I'll just slither away now... Anon
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