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Wisconsin girl kidnapped. Parents murdered*Update*She's been found alive !
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(10-17-2018, 02:24 PM)sybdragon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 02:05 PM)atabrigade Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 02:01 PM)Twaddle Wrote: MOTHER FUCKERS..
I hate humans!!!

cant see, what happen?

It was just that vid of the black SUVs at the gas station. Repeat of the vid on the thread. Nothing new.  popnana

Let's see... nothing taken. Phone call around the time they were shot but no one talking just the call. If you don't answer or talk and dial 911, they come out and check it out. So they found the parents. Teen gone. No signs of struggle? They are not saying if the kid got along with her parents and no one has come out with a FB page, twatter or some other popular social site for kids. This kid has some footprint online doesn't she? 13? That's what? 8th and 9th graders? She would have these things.

She looks like the type that would believe some dude online and try to run away with them. The way she's sitting. Insecure looking and embarrassed or doesn't really look like she wanted that pic taken. She's not that cute. Just the type to run away with some smooth talking man. And if she never met them before they showed up....

But I am leaning more towards this being a hit. Both parents shot dead but someone still managed to dial 911 before they died. They are looking for this kid and said she was endangered so.... the house was in shambles?
Looked like a break-in? Nothing was taken but two lives and a teenager. The teenager is more than likely dead. Too much publicity for her. She's a major liability at this point.

Maybe the parents got into some mess and when the dudes showed up to collect, they didn't have anything the guys wanted to repay them with but the teenager. And the parents didn't want to give her away so they tried to protect her. There was more than one person involved here I'd say. They killed her parents and told her if she didn't obey, the same would happen to her?  1dunno1

There are a lot of things that could be happening here. That guy looked Hispanic or Middle Eastern one. Drug cartel stuff? They would be into the sex trade. Virgins are worth a lot of money when they are auctioned off. But if the face is too familiar, that girl is used, abused and then the star of a snuff film somewhere. Body never found.   Hiding3

Um... those are some major assumptions about the girl.

First off, most girls that age don't get along with their parents. It's called being a teenager. Second, you can't honestly tell me that from one photo you can tell that shes the "kind of girl who would believe some guy online and run away with them".

Not only is that ridiculously rude and uncalled for, but if it really was a matter of a young girl running away with some guys there would be absolutely no motive for them in killing her parents.

And yes she's endangered... her parents are dead and she's nowhere to be found. You really think they are referring to her living conditions? Come on.

One more thing, just because these guys were out for her/her parents doesn't necessarily mean that the parents must have been in some trouble or were owing money to the drug cartel. That's a major stretch.

I have never told this story here but when I was 17 my dad fired some guys at work and one of them showed up at my workplace, then used the payphone to call my dad and threatened to kill me. Not knowing he was on camera... they caught the guy. Some union asshole. The company actually flew in bodyguards to drive me to and from work for the next few months. A lot of drama for a small town in northern Canada lol.

Don't assume that the parents are somehow criminals or their daughter just randomly decided to run away with strange men from the internet. It's probably nothing like that. Wait for some actual facts to come out before jumping to conclusions... and hope she is found safe!
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(10-17-2018, 03:22 PM)BugOutGirl Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 02:24 PM)sybdragon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 02:05 PM)atabrigade Wrote: cant see, what happen?

It was just that vid of the black SUVs at the gas station. Repeat of the vid on the thread. Nothing new.  popnana

Let's see... nothing taken. Phone call around the time they were shot but no one talking just the call. If you don't answer or talk and dial 911, they come out and check it out. So they found the parents. Teen gone. No signs of struggle? They are not saying if the kid got along with her parents and no one has come out with a FB page, twatter or some other popular social site for kids. This kid has some footprint online doesn't she? 13? That's what? 8th and 9th graders? She would have these things.

She looks like the type that would believe some dude online and try to run away with them. The way she's sitting. Insecure looking and embarrassed or doesn't really look like she wanted that pic taken. She's not that cute. Just the type to run away with some smooth talking man. And if she never met them before they showed up....

But I am leaning more towards this being a hit. Both parents shot dead but someone still managed to dial 911 before they died. They are looking for this kid and said she was endangered so.... the house was in shambles?
Looked like a break-in? Nothing was taken but two lives and a teenager. The teenager is more than likely dead. Too much publicity for her. She's a major liability at this point.

Maybe the parents got into some mess and when the dudes showed up to collect, they didn't have anything the guys wanted to repay them with but the teenager. And the parents didn't want to give her away so they tried to protect her. There was more than one person involved here I'd say. They killed her parents and told her if she didn't obey, the same would happen to her?  1dunno1

There are a lot of things that could be happening here. That guy looked Hispanic or Middle Eastern one. Drug cartel stuff? They would be into the sex trade. Virgins are worth a lot of money when they are auctioned off. But if the face is too familiar, that girl is used, abused and then the star of a snuff film somewhere. Body never found.   Hiding3

Um... those are some major assumptions about the girl.

First off, most girls that age don't get along with their parents. It's called being a teenager. Second, you can't honestly tell me that from one photo you can tell that shes the "kind of girl who would believe some guy online and run away with them".

Not only is that ridiculously rude and uncalled for, but if it really was a matter of a young girl running away with some guys there would be absolutely no motive for them in killing her parents.

And yes she's endangered... her parents are dead and she's nowhere to be found. You really think they are referring to her living conditions? Come on.

One more thing, just because these guys were out for her/her parents doesn't necessarily mean that the parents must have been in some trouble or were owing money to the drug cartel. That's a major stretch.

I have never told this story here but when I was 17 my dad fired some guys at work and one of them showed up at my workplace, then used the payphone to call my dad and threatened to kill me. Not knowing he was on camera... they caught the guy. Some union asshole. The company actually flew in bodyguards to drive me to and from work for the next few months. A lot of drama for a small town in northern Canada lol.

Don't assume that the parents are somehow criminals or their daughter just randomly decided to run away with strange men from the internet. It's probably nothing like that. Wait for some actual facts to come out before jumping to conclusions... and hope she is found safe!

I'm guessing from the articles I've read. That girl is 13. A whole lot of 13 year olds these days run away with some smooth talking man they meet online. They send pictures. These are kids that are not thinking it through. 13 and insecure. I don't know any 13 years old that are secure and that can not be conned into something. You just have to know what they want. It's the age. And 13 is at the age of thinking they are falling in 'love'. So that is a good angle on this. There is not many facts in the articles for anything so it's all guesswork right now.

Why was that house targeted? If it was destroyed or robbed, it would have been a home invasion. And those usually do not end up with the parents dead and the teenage daughter disappeared. This is why I am laying out the angle that she might have 'known' these guys. There was more than one because two adults were taken out and 13, even at her size, could fight some.

I am saying that this is a very interesting case. It's unusual. There are more angles to look at I just haven't thought of them yet. These are the ones I've thought of. If you have any suggestions... This is a puzzle.

IMO. With this major outcry about this missing teenager and with her face plastered all over the country.... She is a liability and I would be amazed if she were found alive. If she's found alive, I would want to ask her some questions. Yes, I would suspect her of having a hand in her parent's murder. Parents and kids seem to murder each other these days. I hear about it all the time. Some lady just stabbed and baked her granddaughter. How horrible is that? People are... I don't know what to say about that... Horrible stuff.

This is one of those cases where we are going to be left hanging. We are not going to hear about what happened because more than likely, something will knock this off the front page tomorrow. This little girl will be yesterday's news. Especially if they don't find her in the next couple days. I hope they find her alive but I'm not counting on it.

If criminals took this little girl, they took her for the sex trade. If it wasn't criminals but some people she knew that was 'helping' her escape her 'horrible (to her)' parents... Her parents may have died trying to protect her from being raped right there during a home invasion. It might not have been the plan to take the girl and kill her parents. But so far, the police haven't stated the condition of the inside of the house. And they won't. That's part of the stuff they are holding close to the chest. Either way, they would still put out the same alert. Exact same alert.

I'm not saying they owed money to a drug cartel. A drug cartel is into the sex trade. And these cartels are in the USA wherever you find some of the little gangs they affiliate with that move their product. These guys are all connected in some way. Little strings. Who knows?

I do not hear many home invasions going this way. I hear of more cop raids going this way than home invasions. Why were the parents killed? Why did they take the teenager? Those are the questions and all angles are looked at. You would be surprised who is in the drug business too. Some of them look like the banker and are not street thugs. Street thugs just do the dirty work. This was some dirty work done in that house.

It's all speculation at this point. Until they find that girl, I doubt we will hear anything else about this. They are going to focus on finding that girl. But someone is running the angles and guessing where to go next to look for clues. This case is unusual don'tcha think? Well, unless it's found out that she had a boyfriend and they planned to kill the parents for the insurance money. But that's a boring angle and she is only 13. How does she plan on claiming that money as a juvie? Even she would know this and she would know that she would have to live with someone until she is 18 unless she ran away and didn't get caught. And that's how a 13 year old's mind works. They do not think it all the way through.

From her pic, she looked like she was shy. She smiled for the camera but she didn't throw that head back and she looked up with her eyeballs and not her entire head. And if that was the best picture of her they had... She wasn't the selfie type like a lot of teens are these days? They couldn't find a better picture of her? Where did they get that pic from? Her Mom or Dad's phone? That's the only pic they had? That's sad. Tells me she didn't think she was that cute either. Cute kids want to take pics and even kids that are used to it pose. At least lift that head and not just the eyeballs. That pose was, I wish you wouldn't but if you must. And she was folded in on herself. Another sign of insecurity or closing in on yourself and walling out the rest of the world. She had the body language of someone that was cold or uncomfortable/didn't want to be there.
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This definitely needs more attention :(
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#35
Why do i feel like this was not a kidnapping ? Probably wrong but a weird feeling here.
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@BugOutGirl you beat me to it.
I watched the FB video and read the comments...lots of people saying there was a girl in a pink shirt...the guy driving had a pink shirt on. That was the only one I saw. From the stills, it is impossible to tell.
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#37
Fox is doing a lot of reporting on this. Is the rest of the msm reporting on it also?

Wondering who are these parents? Are they just regular folks or something more?
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(10-18-2018, 09:13 AM)Guest Wrote: Fox is doing a lot of reporting on this.  Is the rest of the msm reporting on it also?

Wondering who are these parents?  Are they just regular folks or something more?

Makes you wonder huh? After all, kids go missing all the time under suspicious circumstances. Ok. I've finally read an article, sorry I was tired last night when I ran across it and don't remember where I found it but this article/rumor stated that the door was busted in. So this was a home invasion. Or at least made to look like one. I still think it took more than one person to do this. There were 3 people in the house. Two ended up dead. Why? What happened to make them dead? Crap, even in my town of 1500, we had a couple teens doing this home invasion stuff. They were caught of course, small town. But they still managed to kick in, I heard about 2 houses. So 2 or more houses in my little town. Local kids too.

Most of the time, home invasions do not kill the home occupiers. Maybe beat on them a little or something but they tend to walk away from the experience. Why were these folks targeted? What did they do to bring attention to themselves? Usually when something like this happens, it's because someone owes someone money. Or is going to rat them out. This type of stuff usually has a connection to the people that were killed.

I would want pictures of who comes to the funerals. From what rumors I've read, this does not look like it's a 'stranger danger' thing to me. It was a targeted hit looks like. That is the big question to me. Why these people? What brought the attention to them? Where's the missing piece of the puzzle? Only the cops know probably. Maybe one day we will too. Until then, who knows. Just brutal. I would think they are looking at the pedo/porno dark sites to see if she's on them. Snuff films pay big money.

I would think the best possible scenario for this girl would be if she planned this with some boy she met on or off line. A 'love' thingie along with killing the parents. Other than that, this little girl is toast if they don't find her. And other than that, as there are so many people that go missing and are considered endangered but they don't put out nationwide alerts for them all the time.... So this story is either distraction because it's so sensational and horrible to imagine for most people, or there is something they are not telling us about these people.  popnana
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(10-18-2018, 09:41 AM)sybdragon Wrote:
(10-18-2018, 09:13 AM)Guest Wrote: Fox is doing a lot of reporting on this.  Is the rest of the msm reporting on it also?

Wondering who are these parents?  Are they just regular folks or something more?

Makes you wonder huh? After all, kids go missing all the time under suspicious circumstances. Ok. I've finally read an article, sorry I was tired last night when I ran across it and don't remember where I found it but this article/rumor stated that the door was busted in. So this was a home invasion. Or at least made to look like one. I still think it took more than one person to do this. There were 3 people in the house. Two ended up dead. Why? What happened to make them dead? Crap, even in my town of 1500, we had a couple teens doing this home invasion stuff. They were caught of course, small town. But they still managed to kick in, I heard about 2 houses. So 2 or more houses in my little town. Local kids too.

Most of the time, home invasions do not kill the home occupiers. Maybe beat on them a little or something but they tend to walk away from the experience. Why were these folks targeted? What did they do to bring attention to themselves? Usually when something like this happens, it's because someone owes someone money. Or is going to rat them out. This type of stuff usually has a connection to the people that were killed.

I would want pictures of who comes to the funerals. From what rumors I've read, this does not look like it's a 'stranger danger' thing to me. It was a targeted hit looks like. That is the big question to me. Why these people? What brought the attention to them? Where's the missing piece of the puzzle? Only the cops know probably. Maybe one day we will too. Until then, who knows. Just brutal. I would think they are looking at the pedo/porno dark sites to see if she's on them. Snuff films pay big money.

I would think the best possible scenario for this girl would be if she planned this with some boy she met on or off line. A 'love' thingie along with killing the parents. Other than that, this little girl is toast if they don't find her. And other than that, as there are so many people that go missing and are considered endangered but they don't put out nationwide alerts for them all the time.... So this story is either distraction because it's so sensational and horrible to imagine for most people, or there is something they are not telling us about these people.  popnana

I have a close friend whom is now a retired life time high ranking Sheriff deputy, and he has told me from years ago that two things he learned first off, (which was shocking to him) all the reported missing kids and the killing of house hold people across the nation, he said law enforcement say lots of the mo's are the same, but there was never any clear evidence to tie anyone to the crimes, and so theories are the kids are sold to slaves or sacrificed. and the numbers were staggering. yes some kids are runaways, BUT LOTS were not! I also have a friend who 25 years ago his Blonde teen daughter was kidnapped and never heard from again, at that time lots of pretty young blondes were going to the mid east, via Mexico, he searched for her long time, just like i searched for my uncles murderer in Mexico. what it boils down to this infrastructure has been in place for many years and has only got worse under certain government people whom seemed to look the other way to this type of crime.
and it has only got worse!
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Just a different take on this:

"...and Barron County in northwest Wisconsin has become a center of Somali resettlement in the state. (In fact, smaller-sized Barron ranks alongside larger communities like Wisconsin Rapids and Fond du Lac, as well as Milwaukee suburbs like Greenfield and Wauwatosa, in terms of its number of resettled refugees.)"

https://www.wiscontext.org/refugee-reset...in-numbers

The place where her parents worked employs a large population of Somalians. Somalia has a significant problem with human trafficking, specifically children, who are violently removed from their parents and are forced to work for their captors either through street begging or much worse. Somalia is also home to drug trafficking both within its borders and throughout neighboring states. I'm mentioning this because I have little faith, given the PC culture, that Somalians feel pressured at all to "assimilate" into their new culture in the US.

I don't know if this has been brought up in this thread before, but as the police are searching for this girl all over the country perhaps their efforts need to be closer to home. IMHO of course.
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