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When it's time to give up the car keys!
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(01-24-2019, 08:01 PM)Apache54 Wrote:
(01-24-2019, 03:32 PM)~mc~ Wrote:
(01-24-2019, 02:02 PM)Suburban Monk Wrote: My mother is 64 and she scares the everliving hell on me when ever I go somewhere with her.
it's straight scary, it's like being on a roller coaster!

Same with my grandpa (papa)

He should not be driving

Last time I visited him in Florida I was laughing because he rattle can spray painted his car from all the shit he’s hit  Chuckle makes me laugh but really it’s not funny

We went out to dinner and after we got home I came outside about an hour later and his car was still running. He never turned it off. Facepalm

I remember very well when my Dad ran a red light or two and never saw it, so that's when we took his keys away. as I get older, I understand more and more how it is wondering "how you'll get buy" when you are to old to drive and do many things, hopefully i am a LONG ways from that, but I am not a spring chicken either!

Two elderly women were out driving in a large car-both could barely see over the dashboard. As they were cruising along they came to an intersection. The stoplight was red but they just went on through. The woman in the passenger seat thought to herself "I must be losing it, I could have sworn we just went through a red light." After a few more minutes they came to another intersection and the light was red again and again they went right though. This time the woman in the passenger seat was almost sure that the light had been red but was really concerned that she was losing it. She was getting nervous and decided to pay very close attention to the road and the next intersection to see what was going on. At the next intersection, sure enough, the light was definitely red and they went right through and she turned to the other woman and said, "Mildred! Did you know we just ran through three red lights in a row! You could have killed us!" Mildred turned to her and said, "Oh, am I driving?"

Husband was letting the wife drive when she kept running red lights. He said to her, "Didn't you see that red light?" She said, "You've seen one red light, you've seen them all."
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#32
It's easy for us to tell people to quit driving, but it's so much more than that to them. You are asking someone that has worked hard all their lives, to give up their independence, their ability to go to the local McDonald's and socialize, to sustain themselves, to enjoy life. They now have to depend on when someone else has time to take them shopping, to visit friends, and to just get out in the world.

As family and friends tire of it, that time becomes less frequent and those relationships strained as you become a hassle and intrusion into ther lives. The retirement they worked all their lives for, has now become days filled with nothing but time, fear that wont be able to get what you need, and a whole host of things we take for granted.

Think how you would feel if when you needed something, wanted or had a craving for anything, you had to wait till your ride got off work or till the weekend. What if no family lives nearby?

When it comes to giving up their keys they know their just one step from being removed from their beloved home. In fact not being able to drive can be used as a reason to place them in a care facility. Believe me there's not a whole lot of caring that goes on in the majority of those places. They are nothing more than factory farms for the elderly.

Truth be told many accidents involving the elderly are caused by people not having any patience, and tailgating, trying to pass, etc.

Besides the young and now texting causes many more accidents than the elderly.
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(01-25-2019, 08:11 AM)Flatland Hillbilly Wrote: It's easy for us to tell people to quit driving, but it's so much more than that to them.  You are asking someone that has worked hard all their lives, to give up their independence, their ability  to go to the local McDonald's and  socialize, to sustain themselves, to enjoy life.  They now have to depend  on when someone else has time to take them shopping, to visit friends, and to just get out in the world.

As family and friends tire of it, that time becomes less frequent and those relationships strained as you become a hassle and intrusion into ther lives.   The retirement  they worked all their lives for, has now become days filled with nothing but time, fear that wont be able to get what you need, and a whole host of things we take for granted.

Think how you would feel  if when you needed something, wanted or had a craving for anything, you had to wait till your ride  got off work or till the weekend.  What if no family lives nearby?  

When it comes to giving up their keys they know their just one step from being removed from their beloved home.  In fact not being able to drive can be used as a reason to place  them in a care facility.  Believe me there's not a whole lot of caring that goes on in the majority of those places.  They are nothing more than factory farms for the elderly.

I agree. It is definitely a difficult time for all involved.
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(01-25-2019, 08:11 AM)Flatland Hillbilly Wrote: It's easy for us to tell people to quit driving, but it's so much more than that to them.  You are asking someone that has worked hard all their lives, to give up their independence, their ability  to go to the local McDonald's and  socialize, to sustain themselves, to enjoy life.  They now have to depend  on when someone else has time to take them shopping, to visit friends, and to just get out in the world.

As family and friends tire of it, that time becomes less frequent and those relationships strained as you become a hassle and intrusion into ther lives.   The retirement  they worked all their lives for, has now become days filled with nothing but time, fear that wont be able to get what you need, and a whole host of things we take for granted.

Think how you would feel  if when you needed something, wanted or had a craving for anything, you had to wait till your ride  got off work or till the weekend.  What if no family lives nearby?  

When it comes to giving up their keys they know their just one step from being removed from their beloved home.  In fact not being able to drive can be used as a reason to place  them in a care facility.  Believe me there's not a whole lot of caring that goes on in the majority of those places.  They are nothing more than factory farms for the elderly.

 Truth be told many accidents involving the elderly are caused by people not having any patience, and tailgating, trying to pass,  etc.

Besides the young and now texting causes many more accidents than the elderly.

Well said.
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#35
I work in an area with a high population of seniors. Every day I see people running red lights and stop signs, driving on the shoulder, and/or traveling several miles with a turn indicator on...and don't get me started on their inability to park correctly. It's scary as Hell. Many of these people drive cars that are 15+ years old and don't have the safety features that current models do.

With that being said, I don't like to make sweeping generalizations about people over 65. Many are hip and alert. There's quite a few twenty-somethings that drive like utter and complete assholes.
I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.
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(01-24-2019, 12:30 PM)Firefly Wrote: It's time to study the meds these people are on, and how THEY may be affecting their driving.  Think meds for high blood pressure.  Stats say 70% of Americans are taking them, and trust me on this - those side effects are DEBILITATING.  Why I chose to say NO to them.  Screw it.  Not giving up what 'quality of life' I have, which includes driving.  And, YES, they DO affect your ability to react and pay attention.

Blood pressure meds slow the heart.
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(01-25-2019, 11:06 AM)Karu Wrote:
(01-24-2019, 12:30 PM)Firefly Wrote: It's time to study the meds these people are on, and how THEY may be affecting their driving.  Think meds for high blood pressure.  Stats say 70% of Americans are taking them, and trust me on this - those side effects are DEBILITATING.  Why I chose to say NO to them.  Screw it.  Not giving up what 'quality of life' I have, which includes driving.  And, YES, they DO affect your ability to react and pay attention.

Blood pressure meds slow the heart.

Yes, they do. But, they also have some disturbing side effects with regard to your ability to react, think, concentrate, and make decisions. Depends on which one they give you. The beta blockers are especially bad for this, even in low dose prescriptions.
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(01-24-2019, 05:02 PM)counterintelligence Wrote: I think somebody who resorts to tailgating has already lost sight of why they even bothered to get in the car.  They are going somewhere, for whatever reason, but the reason just seems to be lost before they arrive.

So the other day I was pulling out of my neighborhood, and there was a long line of cars behind the car coming into my neighborhood.  Perfect opportunity for me to go right?  Not according to somebody who immediately started tailgating as soon as I got out on the room, because they wanted the road all to themselves and here I was getting in "their way".  So I decided that is a safety violation.  I stopped completely to make sure that they had to stop completely.  Because anything else I do would just intensify their irrational rage.  So as soon as I started moving again, they went around me in the turn lane, because that was the only right answer according to them.   And they had to stop and wait at the light,  so their short sightedness wasn't going to get them there any sooner.  But as I followed behind them, I was watching them.  They turned off into another neighborhood at the next mile street over.  Why don't you start going down that street if you want to get there quicker than coming down my street and accosting me maybe even trying to kill me?  They were not where they belonged and got mad at me because I was going to be in their way, "not where I belonged", according to them.  

They definetly needed to give up the keys...

Did you talk to them?
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(01-25-2019, 11:17 AM)Karu Wrote:
(01-24-2019, 05:02 PM)counterintelligence Wrote: I think somebody who resorts to tailgating has already lost sight of why they even bothered to get in the car.  They are going somewhere, for whatever reason, but the reason just seems to be lost before they arrive.

So the other day I was pulling out of my neighborhood, and there was a long line of cars behind the car coming into my neighborhood.  Perfect opportunity for me to go right?  Not according to somebody who immediately started tailgating as soon as I got out on the room, because they wanted the road all to themselves and here I was getting in "their way".  So I decided that is a safety violation.  I stopped completely to make sure that they had to stop completely.  Because anything else I do would just intensify their irrational rage.  So as soon as I started moving again, they went around me in the turn lane, because that was the only right answer according to them.   And they had to stop and wait at the light,  so their short sightedness wasn't going to get them there any sooner.  But as I followed behind them, I was watching them.  They turned off into another neighborhood at the next mile street over.  Why don't you start going down that street if you want to get there quicker than coming down my street and accosting me maybe even trying to kill me?  They were not where they belonged and got mad at me because I was going to be in their way, "not where I belonged", according to them.  

They definetly needed to give up the keys...

Did you talk to them?

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(01-24-2019, 02:31 PM)WNC Wrote:
(01-24-2019, 02:02 PM)Suburban Monk Wrote: My mother is 64 and she scares the everliving hell on me when ever I go somewhere with her.
it's straight scary, it's like being on a roller coaster!

I am a year older than your mom and still drive good but I do try and limit my night time driving especially in bad weather. Will hate when I have to give up driving but I don't want to kill myself or someone else.

LASIK surgery can cause night blindness...think of all the people who have had this procedure that have reduced night vision and depth perception.
If society fell apart, we - the people would build a new one. Most people are good at their core, and when we see things that are wrong we work to fix them together. Make friends with your neighbors, get involved with your community - because we will rebuild our lives, our communities, from horrible circumstances we always will.
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