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*WHAT IF ALL ILLEGALS LEFT THE UNITED STATES ?*
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(01-11-2019, 08:19 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote:
(01-11-2019, 06:00 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote:
(01-10-2019, 11:36 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Nope, but, I know lots of legal citizen contractors who know how to do masonry work.

I can wire a house or commercial space. My work won't burn the building down and will pass all the inspection codes. But, I guess you would rather an illegal alien do that work? Who talks to the Electrical Inspector when there are questions ?

That's not what I said.

I'm just saying if you deport all the illegals suddenly, you're going to have a serious manpower problem that takes years to fix.

You don't become an electrician or a stonemason in six months.

So this knee-jerk idea of deporting everybody is poorly conceived.

You do know that there are LEGAL properly immigrated workers in the USA, right?

To be specific, I do mean legal immigrant Hispanic workers.  

There are tons of them...and they don't like the illegal competition any more than any other U.S. citizen or green card holder.

All the ones I worked with were illegal.

Chuckle

And they were skilled workers.

I understand the competition issue, and I don't want anybody driving down my wages.

But the ones I worked with went on strike when our legal immigrant boss tried to screw us by making us pay for supplies that were supposed to be billed to customers.

We had a barbacoa in the shop for three hours until he reversed that decision.

Ultimate point being, I haven't seen many young people taking up auto tech as a profession.

Because it doesn't pay as well as writing malware apps.

You deport all the illegals, you won't have the roads paved, the bridges rebuilt, the cars fixed, and many other things that require skill sets young people no longer have.

It'd take years before we had a domestic supply of the workers we depend on now.

This is because of decades of loose immigration policy, but you can't fix decades of bad policy with a sudden knee-jerk action.
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#62
(01-11-2019, 06:00 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote:
(01-10-2019, 11:36 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(01-10-2019, 11:27 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote: No I'm not being silly.

You could potentially gradually deport people, but you can't do it fast.

Do you know how to lay bricks?

Chuckle

Nope, but, I know lots of legal citizen contractors who know how to do masonry work.

I can wire a house or commercial space. My work won't burn the building down and will pass all the inspection codes. But, I guess you would rather an illegal alien do that work? Who talks to the Electrical Inspector when there are questions ?

That's not what I said.

I'm just saying if you deport all the illegals suddenly, you're going to have a serious manpower problem that takes years to fix.

You don't become an electrician or a stonemason in six months.

So this knee-jerk idea of deporting everybody is poorly conceived.

You are a kidding rite? Ham
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#63
(01-12-2019, 07:23 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote:
(01-11-2019, 08:19 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote:
(01-11-2019, 06:00 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote: That's not what I said.

I'm just saying if you deport all the illegals suddenly, you're going to have a serious manpower problem that takes years to fix.

You don't become an electrician or a stonemason in six months.

So this knee-jerk idea of deporting everybody is poorly conceived.

You do know that there are LEGAL properly immigrated workers in the USA, right?

To be specific, I do mean legal immigrant Hispanic workers.  

There are tons of them...and they don't like the illegal competition any more than any other U.S. citizen or green card holder.

All the ones I worked with were illegal.

Chuckle

And they were skilled workers.

I understand the competition issue, and I don't want anybody driving down my wages.

But the ones I worked with went on strike when our legal immigrant boss tried to screw us by making us pay for supplies that were supposed to be billed to customers.

We had a barbacoa in the shop for three hours until he reversed that decision.

Ultimate point being, I haven't seen many young people taking up auto tech as a profession.

Because it doesn't pay as well as writing malware apps.

You deport all the illegals, you won't have the roads paved, the bridges rebuilt, the cars fixed, and many other things that require skill sets young people no longer have.

It'd take years before we had a domestic supply of the workers we depend on now.

This is because of decades of loose immigration policy, but you can't fix decades of bad policy with a sudden knee-jerk action.

I don't know where you live, but if where you are has allowed only illegals to work in the areas you mentioned, no wonder you are worried.

Your employers and city contractors need to be arrested for doing that to your area.

And if all the young people in your area are smart enough to write malware apps, and not dig ditches, well that's very impressive.

Young people where I am would love to make $18-25 an hour on construction jobs or in auto shops...maybe when illegal immigration is fixed we can send some of our young people to your area so they can fill the void your area will have.
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(01-13-2019, 02:01 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote:
(01-12-2019, 07:23 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote:
(01-11-2019, 08:19 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote: You do know that there are LEGAL properly immigrated workers in the USA, right?

To be specific, I do mean legal immigrant Hispanic workers.  

There are tons of them...and they don't like the illegal competition any more than any other U.S. citizen or green card holder.

All the ones I worked with were illegal.

Chuckle

And they were skilled workers.

I understand the competition issue, and I don't want anybody driving down my wages.

But the ones I worked with went on strike when our legal immigrant boss tried to screw us by making us pay for supplies that were supposed to be billed to customers.

We had a barbacoa in the shop for three hours until he reversed that decision.

Ultimate point being, I haven't seen many young people taking up auto tech as a profession.

Because it doesn't pay as well as writing malware apps.

You deport all the illegals, you won't have the roads paved, the bridges rebuilt, the cars fixed, and many other things that require skill sets young people no longer have.

It'd take years before we had a domestic supply of the workers we depend on now.

This is because of decades of loose immigration policy, but you can't fix decades of bad policy with a sudden knee-jerk action.

I don't know where you live, but if where you are has allowed only illegals to work in the areas you mentioned, no wonder you are worried.

Your employers and city contractors need to be arrested for doing that to your area.

And if all the young people in your area are smart enough to write malware apps, and not dig ditches, well that's very impressive.  

Young people where I am would love to make $18-25 an hour on construction jobs or in auto shops...maybe when illegal immigration is fixed we can send some of our young people to your area so they can fill the void your area will have.

They are obviously breaking the law(contractors etc).

And this is not a liberal state.

Who wants low wages?
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#65
I'm not optimistic that this is remotely possible in Texas. It's been the culture here since the 1800s.
It's worse than it's ever been.
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(01-10-2019, 11:44 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote:
(01-10-2019, 11:34 PM)Road Glide Wrote:
(01-10-2019, 11:31 PM)phxsparks Wrote: Yes, bring it on.  I want to see people marching through the streets with torches and pitchforks!

Hiding3

That's what it's going to take to fix this shit.

No it's not.

1)You need these skilled workers so your children have somebody who can train them.

2)Any major demographic and/or economic change has to be gradual or you get a collapse, and that isn't how you fix anything.

I understand the frustration, and I share it to some extent.

Local Real Estate holding companies weren't willing to let me start a business without credit back in the 1980's.

They would do that back in maybe the 1930's.

I have anecdotal evidence(the Mercedes dealer and the largest auto salvage empire in my area started with a handshake and a rented barn.)

But it hasn't been that way in a long time.

ALMOST all of the successful transportation/manufacturing/technical businesses in Lawrence Kansas(when I was there in the 1990's)
were started with drug money. Mostly cocaine and weed. In the 1970's. They matured in the 1990's, but were started that way.

Just as bootleggers started other businesses during the Great Depression.

That's just how it really is.

It's easy to be angry at illegal immigrants about changes in the economy; they do have an effect.

But it's actually mostly positive effects.

It's okay to end illegal immigration or to make efforts in that regard.

But if you really want to repair the economy you have to do it at an industrial policy level.

We don't manufacture enough TRADE GOODS for EXPORT TRADE.

We fuck around with Big Data malware.

And CHAIN MIGRATION is a good idea.

You don't bring in Jim Bob and John Senior and leave Olivia and Ester behind.

Illegal aliens aren't skilled workers. Anyone with half a brain can do most of their jobs. They weren't hired for those skilled jobs they manipulated the job market by only hiring their cousins and siblings.
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