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#21
(02-12-2018, 08:09 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 07:56 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 07:45 PM)DaJavoo Wrote: Bullshit.

The National Debt is DOWN now.  That useless payment on 'interest' is what's sucking the lifeblood.

Lmao

Apparently maths and reality are not your strong suit!  Interest is what is paid to the people you BORROW from, without them there would be no trillion-dollar deficits and you and the fanboys would be eating cat food under a bridge.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


Nope, it's literally going up by the second, right now.. even without the Trumponomics train wreck.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-1...llion-2028


Ah, the fresh smell of education. Read and learn my reality-challenged friend.

Oh, BTW, the ZH piece is very conservative and assumes there will not be a recession and many other variables.

Mark Twain's 'Lies, damned lies and statistics' may apply here.

Let the man get some fiscal legislation passed.  As it stands atm, the National Debt IS down.

However, yes, that number can bounce around.

When money is spent and invested in the economy other 'tax' income rises ~ taxes people feel good about paying.

Most forecasters miss the mark.  How many got 2008 called in time?

Trump, like all before him, deserves a shot ~ and one with a full arsenal ~ including a decent budget.

You're in denial.

The fact is that Trump is going to run the largest deficit in years, and with the tax cuts it will be the largest ever. The  national debt will certainly rise just as it did under Obama and every other president because the problem and state of affairs is untenable and far bigger than any president.
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#22
(02-12-2018, 08:31 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:02 PM)Munchaab Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:00 PM)Guest Wrote: Lmao

Miracles don't happen when the nation is bankrupt.

It will double under Trump or anyone else, regardless of what the fangirls think.

They don't understand economics.

If you would AV up and own your comments - I might be able to hold you to that - but AC - have a laugh...


This place is too much of a circle jerk for me to register, to be honest. I speak my mind and I know you guys don't like that sort of stuff. I've had a number of posts deleted.. so I will just continue to do what I do, like it or not.

I'm not making shit up here, and you will understand when the smoke clears. You can hold the facts of reality, this has nothing to do with me.

I doubt your truth as we only delete SHIT - and you seem to be above that...

But - If you end up being INCORRECT - how - will I know you from the anons saying they knew it would happen this way - AFTER - you accuse me of being WRONG in my prediction...

I can't and you will melt like the other snowflakes - when proven wrong - NEVER to claim your words or assertions...

Therefore - you are WORTHLESS...

And reading Guest posts is POINTLESS...

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#23
(02-12-2018, 08:38 PM)Munchaab Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:31 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:02 PM)Munchaab Wrote: If you would AV up and own your comments - I might be able to hold you to that - but AC - have a laugh...


This place is too much of a circle jerk for me to register, to be honest. I speak my mind and I know you guys don't like that sort of stuff. I've had a number of posts deleted.. so I will just continue to do what I do, like it or not.

I'm not making shit up here, and you will understand when the smoke clears. You can hold the facts of reality, this has nothing to do with me.

I doubt your truth as we only delete SHIT - and you seem to be above that...

But - If you end up being INCORRECT - how - will I know you from the anons saying they knew it would happen this way - AFTER - you accuse me of being WRONG in my prediction...

I can't and you will melt like the other snowflakes - when proven wrong - NEVER to claim your words or assertions...

Therefore - you are WORTHLESS...

And reading Guest posts is POINTLESS...

Güle Güle...

You may as well delete that SHIT you typed, Munch.

This isn't about me. This is about the fucking fact that Trump is gonna run the largest deficit in history. I can't be "wrong" unless facts, maths and reality are "wrong".

Understand?
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(02-12-2018, 08:31 PM)Guest Wrote: This place is too much of a circle jerk for me to register, to be honest. I speak my mind and I know you guys don't like that sort of stuff. I've had a number of posts deleted.. so I will just continue to do what I do, like it or not.

I'm not making shit up here, and you will understand when the smoke clears. You can hold the facts of reality, this has nothing to do with me.

Okay, now here's the thing.

You have insulted the people here and you claim that the way things are run here is beneath your ever-so-educated dignity.

Good for you. You are the super amazing whiz-mind!

What I am wondering about is why you keep coming back? Is it some kind of fetish? Insecurity? Need for drama? It is fine to disagree with people here, but why must you do it in such a vulgar way? Not too classy, Jack. And also not too smart. If you're going to make a dramatic exit, you should just go. When you come back, we just know you have some personal issues.

Okay, my apologies for derailing this thread everyone. Back to your regular subject.
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#25
(02-12-2018, 08:56 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:38 PM)Munchaab Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:31 PM)Guest Wrote: This place is too much of a circle jerk for me to register, to be honest. I speak my mind and I know you guys don't like that sort of stuff. I've had a number of posts deleted.. so I will just continue to do what I do, like it or not.

I'm not making shit up here, and you will understand when the smoke clears. You can hold the facts of reality, this has nothing to do with me.

I doubt your truth as we only delete SHIT - and you seem to be above that...

But - If you end up being INCORRECT - how - will I know you from the anons saying they knew it would happen this way - AFTER - you accuse me of being WRONG in my prediction...

I can't and you will melt like the other snowflakes - when proven wrong - NEVER to claim your words or assertions...

Therefore - you are WORTHLESS...

And reading Guest posts is POINTLESS...

Güle Güle...

You may as well delete that SHIT you typed, Munch.

This isn't about me. This is about the fucking fact that Trump is gonna run the largest deficit in history. I can't be "wrong" unless facts, maths and reality are "wrong".

Understand?
The 'facts' and 'reality' being used for the assumptions may well turn out to be incorrect by 2020.
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(02-12-2018, 08:56 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:38 PM)Munchaab Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:31 PM)Guest Wrote: This place is too much of a circle jerk for me to register, to be honest. I speak my mind and I know you guys don't like that sort of stuff. I've had a number of posts deleted.. so I will just continue to do what I do, like it or not.

I'm not making shit up here, and you will understand when the smoke clears. You can hold the facts of reality, this has nothing to do with me.

I doubt your truth as we only delete SHIT - and you seem to be above that...

But - If you end up being INCORRECT - how - will I know you from the anons saying they knew it would happen this way - AFTER - you accuse me of being WRONG in my prediction...

I can't and you will melt like the other snowflakes - when proven wrong - NEVER to claim your words or assertions...

Therefore - you are WORTHLESS...

And reading Guest posts is POINTLESS...

Güle Güle...

You may as well delete that SHIT you typed, Munch.

This isn't about me. This is about the fucking fact that Trump is gonna run the largest deficit in history. I can't be "wrong" unless facts, maths and reality are "wrong".

Understand?

Ahwww - I'm sure you'd like me to delete you saying things that you know will not come true...

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It is about you - and the fact that you are likely wrong - every POTUS has doubled the deficit since it began - PROVE THAT WRONG...

This one will not - that is time in the telling - but you say he will - I say he will reduce it...

And what you don't know id HOW! - EO to confiscate the wealth of perpetrators of heinous crimes - ring a bell? No - because you are not paying attention...

Trump will get back a bunch of the money STOLEN from the US - you can cry he's this or that - but he's coming for those who made you the self hating pansy piece of drivel scum you are...

Namaste.
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(02-12-2018, 08:56 PM)Guest Wrote: This isn't about me. This is about the fucking fact that Trump is gonna run the largest deficit in history. I can't be "wrong" unless facts, maths and reality are "wrong".

So this Trump Character has how many Corporate Bankruptcies under belt ? How should that Play in This un - Formally Bankrupt Nation ?
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(02-12-2018, 09:54 PM)Heir Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:56 PM)Guest Wrote: This isn't about me. This is about the fucking fact that Trump is gonna run the largest deficit in history. I can't be "wrong" unless facts, maths and reality are "wrong".

So this Trump Character has how many Corporate Bankruptcies under belt ? How should that Play in This un - Formally Bankrupt Nation ?


Good question. I think you know the answer, but the only problem is that America cannot default on its creditors or the dollar will certainly collapse and along with it the rest of the world in many ways. After default no nation would do business with the US and millions of people would be eating American made cat food for a few years as America was economically isolated. Believe me, it would NOT be pretty. It would probably feel a lot like the North Korean people feel after so many years of economic sanctions. Ironic karma.

 The US has more debt than any country in history, while interest rates are low it can sort of keep rolling over as it has been. The problem is when rates rise and the cost of borrowing increases. Then it will have to borrow more at even higher rates to pay the interest, which reduces its credit rating in much the same way it would if you were to use new credit cards to make the payments on old credit cards. A vicious cycle.

Some facts to understand..

70% of US GDP is dependent on consumption. The US is a net importer.
Trillion dollar deficits are and will be the norm for the US going forward.
Manufacturing cannot come back in a meaningful way until the dollar is significantly devalued.
A weak dollar is unattractive to buyers of US debt, which will drive rates up.
Consumer debt levels are very high - when rates rise this debt is tougher to pay back.
When you run perpetual deficits you import more than you produce.
Weak dollar increases the cost of imports and day-to-day life for every citizen.
When citizens have less expendable money they spend less.
Remember that 70% of GDP is dependent on consumption.
You can see the catch 22 here.

For many years it was mainly China and Japan as well as the federal reserve who were big buyers of US debt, this allowed it to run the massive deficits and to finance the war machine that technically bankrupt the republic at the expense of 20 million dead motherfuckers in foreign lands as well as each and every US citizen whose tax dollars were wasted instead of used at home. Anyway.. China, Japan and the Fed are no longer so eager to buy US debt, which poses a very big problem to those who raise the deficit and wish to borrow more. This is the end-game moment.

Rates will have to rise to compensate the dumb people buying the debt of a bankrupt nation... and we know what happens when that happens..

Fireworks.

These guys can stick their heads in the sand and call me an asshole for warning about It, I don't care. But there might be a few people who gain something from the contrarian view as opposed to the Trump ass-licking that typically goes on around here, and that's good.  The snowflakes who can't handle the truth will have to suck it up.
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#29
(02-12-2018, 08:31 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:02 PM)Munchaab Wrote:
(02-12-2018, 08:00 PM)Guest Wrote: Lmao

Miracles don't happen when the nation is bankrupt.

It will double under Trump or anyone else, regardless of what the fangirls think.

They don't understand economics.

If you would AV up and own your comments - I might be able to hold you to that - but AC - have a laugh...


This place is too much of a circle jerk for me to register, to be honest. I speak my mind and I know you guys don't like that sort of stuff. I've had a number of posts deleted.. so I will just continue to do what I do, like it or not.

I'm not making shit up here, and you will understand when the smoke clears. You can hold the facts of reality, this has nothing to do with me.

I wonder at someone who would spend so much time and energy at a place they consider a "circle jerk". Lmao
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#30
The game changes when the rules do.

70% of US GDP is dependent on consumption. The US is a net importer.
Trillion dollar deficits are and will be the norm for the US going forward.
Manufacturing cannot come back in a meaningful way until the dollar is significantly devalued.
A weak dollar is unattractive to buyers of US debt, which will drive rates up.
Consumer debt levels are very high - when rates rise this debt is tougher to pay back.
When you run perpetual deficits you import more than you produce.
Weak dollar increases the cost of imports and day-to-day life for every citizen.
When citizens have less expendable money they spend less.
Remember that 70% of GDP is dependent on consumption.
You can see the catch 22 here.


The areas in your argument highlighted above are the changes in the equation.
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