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Victim's mom begs Trump: Do something!
#21
(02-15-2018, 07:54 PM)Angry Red Man Wrote:
(02-15-2018, 07:50 PM)Cassie :-) Wrote: Nothing has changed over the past 2 decades

   2018 17 killed in February 14th Parkland Florida shooting
   2018 2 killed in Kentucky high school shooting
   2017 2 killed in New Mexico high school shooting
   2017 1 killed in Washington high school shooting
   2017 2 killed in CA elementary school shooting
   2016 1 killed in SC elementary school shooting
   2014 4 killed in Washington high school shooting
   2014 1 killed in Oregon high school shooting
   2013 1 killed in Colorado high school shooting
   2013 1 killed in Nevada middle school shooting
   2012 26 killed in Sandy Hook Elementary shooting
   2012 3 killed in Ohio high school shooting
   2011 1 killed in Nebraska high school shooting
   2010 1 killed in Alabama high school shooting
   2008 1 killed in Tennessee high school shooting
   2006 5 killed in Amish schoolhouse shooting
   2006 1 killed in Colorado high school shooting
   2005 1 killed in Tennessee high school shooting
   2005 7 killed in Minnesota high school shooting
   2003 1 killed in Minnesota high school shooting
   2003 1 killed in Pennsylvania high school shooting
   2001 2 killed in California high school shooting
   2000 1 killed in Florida high school shooting
   1999 13 killed in Columbine High School shooting

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/us/us-scho...index.html

Wait a second.

I'm seeing liberals in comments sections and on twitter saying 18 school shootings this year. From January 1 2018 to now.

So CNN is officially contradicting them?

How interesting.

The difference is shootings vs deaths from shootings. We do not hear about shooters successfully stopped before killing anyone.
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#22
"Everytown for Gun Safety, which is co-chaired by anti-gun advocate and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, reports that firearms were discharged inside schools nearly 300 times since 2013. According to their data, Wednesday’s shooting in Broward County, Florida, would be the 18th gunfire incident inside a school this year.

In eight of those incidents, a gun was fired but no one was injured.

Between 2013 and 2015, the organization cataloged 59 gun-related deaths and 124 non-fatal gunshot injuries in schools. "

http://www.wcvb.com/article/america-aver...s/18042451
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(02-15-2018, 08:49 PM)Guest Wrote: well, Trump has repealed a mental health regulation on gun purchases introduced by Obama.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news

but yeah right, Obama's fault.

From the link you provided:

Quote: President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Do you have proof this 19 year old fit into those categories?
If he didn't than that law wouldn't have changed a thing.

We can blame Trump for not being a mind reader and arresting that kid before he killed, we can blame the parents of the dead for not being mind readers and sending their children to school that day or we can blame the killer: The one who planned and committed this horrible act. However, if it comes out that he was on psych meds, as so many are, then the pharmaceutical companies deserve blame too.
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(02-15-2018, 08:49 PM)Guest Wrote: well, Trump has repealed a mental health regulation on gun purchases introduced by Obama.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news

but yeah right, Obama's fault.

The way Obama's bill was worded would have affected collections already bought by people who came to suffer from things like Alzheimers. You could have your entire collection 'confiscated' even if they are in secure storage and you are in a nursing home. Sorry kids. The State stole your inheritance.

Have a temporary set back and end up on prescription pain killers? Oops. No guns for you. Depressed about your parents taking Amtrak and need some Paxil for a few months while you cope with their loss? Oops. No guns for you.

Crap like that has just gotta go.

Come back with some real solutions instead of blanket cover all gun grab shit.
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(02-15-2018, 09:00 PM)SlowLoris Wrote: "Everytown for Gun Safety, which is co-chaired by anti-gun advocate and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, reports that firearms were discharged inside schools nearly 300 times since 2013. According to their data, Wednesday’s shooting in Broward County, Florida, would be the 18th gunfire incident inside a school this year.

In eight of those incidents, a gun was fired but no one was injured.

Between 2013 and 2015, the organization cataloged 59 gun-related deaths and 124 non-fatal gunshot injuries in schools. "

http://www.wcvb.com/article/america-aver...s/18042451

The simple answer is to ban schools.

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(02-15-2018, 09:00 PM)SlowLoris Wrote: "Everytown for Gun Safety, which is co-chaired by anti-gun advocate and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, reports that firearms were discharged inside schools nearly 300 times since 2013. According to their data, Wednesday’s shooting in Broward County, Florida, would be the 18th gunfire incident inside a school this year.

In eight of those incidents, a gun was fired but no one was injured.

Between 2013 and 2015, the organization cataloged 59 gun-related deaths and 124 non-fatal gunshot injuries in schools. "

http://www.wcvb.com/article/america-aver...s/18042451

I have serious doubts about Bloomberg and Everytown's numbers. Neither of them are known for their honesty on this subject.

If there were that many events then the gun grabbing clowns would be screeing all over CNN every time someone bit a poptart and made it look like a gun.
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(02-15-2018, 09:00 PM)Lucy Barnable Wrote:
(02-15-2018, 08:49 PM)Guest Wrote: well, Trump has repealed a mental health regulation on gun purchases introduced by Obama.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news

but yeah right, Obama's fault.

From the link you provided:

Quote: President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Do you have proof this 19 year old fit into those categories?
If he didn't than that law wouldn't have changed a thing.

We can blame Trump for not being a mind reader and arresting that kid before he killed, we can blame the parents of the dead for not being mind readers and sending their children to school that day or we can blame the killer: The one who planned and committed this horrible act. However, if it comes out that he was on psych meds, as so many are, then the pharmaceutical companies deserve blame too.

The Obama rule was too broad. Grandma in a wheelchair depending on grandson to handle her financial affairs, she was automatically denied the right to own a self defense weapon. And if grandson lived in the same household he was denied the right to have a weapon in the house with grandma.

The mental health rule should be explored and applied more fairly instead of painting everyone with a broad brush.
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#28
As the old saying goes, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Quote:On the evening of 14 July 2016, a 19 tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds of people celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, France, resulting in the deaths of 86 people[2] and the injury of 458 others.[4] The driver was Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a Tunisian resident of France.[5][6] The attack ended following an exchange of gunfire, during which Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was shot and killed by police.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

If someone wants to kill large groups of people they don't need a gun to do it and all the regulations in the world won't stop them. Prevention through recognizing high risk individuals is the only way to prevent similar tragedies and, let's face it, no matter what you do, you can only be minimally successful.

I could name many many more similar incidents but I think you get my point
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#29
Going back to the meme I posted on the first page.

When seconds matter, the police are minutes away.

When will people realize that gun free zones are nothing but a nice soft target for people with mental and emotional problems to rack up a kill count and get their names on the news and a wiki page?

If people really cared about the kids then they'd get the hell out of the way when it came to arming the teachers and staff at the school. Teachers with Glocks. Janitors with AR15s. The office staff with 1911s.

Put up a sign that says "If you're looking for a soft target, Starbucks is around the corner. We will shoot back."

Biddy bang. Biddy boom. Problem solved. No more school shootings.

How many of these shooting events happen at a gun show or police station? Once you figure that number out ask yourself why does it not happen there?
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#30
I am all for stopping these nuts, as long as mine or anyone elses rights are not affected in any way shape or form.
If they are affected then we had no "rights" to begin with.

It seems there are always tell tale signs with these people and they are never followed up with. Like I said, it's easier to create a crime than prevent one.
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