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(06-16-2018, 10:17 PM)Red Auroras Wrote:
(06-16-2018, 09:16 PM)Catch Wrote: I have a Winchester Model 1912 that was originally chambered for 2-1/2" shells. I've read that you can use 2-3/4" but when I watch videos, they seem to jam a lot. I really love this old shotgun (think WWII trench gun), but I've never shot it. It may run these short shells just fine.

While I was in Korea, I just knew there had to be some Thompsons stashed somewhere after the war. Even hooked up with a guy that made his fortune smuggling Japanese chips and selling them to companies like LG and Daewoo. Heh heh...he was paying me $35/hr to teach his kids "conversational English" on the side. So we finally got to the subject. "Oh you gonna have to deal with these people to find that." As he folded down his pinky finger. Ummm, nevermind.

But all my students knew my hobby and took me down some alley. Walked in and as soon as he saw me, started slamming the iron bars across one wall. They talked and he relaxed. He had an entire wall of Win 97s (exposed hammer WWI trench guns) stashed back there! Easily 75 of them! He let me pull one down and yeah, the finish was worn but racking the slide just to make sure it was unloaded, it was smooooth. Most of the stocks had dings and scratches but I'd still rate them as "good". The real puzzle was that he refused to sell at any price.

Awesome story!

The model 97 has been on my shopping list for awhile. I've only seen one in person...all of 'em have been triple my budget lol. I'll keep looking.

Norinco makes a 97 clone that looks and sounds promising. I thought about it since I really like the style, but I really want the history that comes with the real thing :)
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(06-16-2018, 10:33 PM)Catch Wrote: Awesome story!

The model 97 has been on my shopping list for awhile. I've only seen one in person...all of 'em have been triple my budget lol. I'll keep looking.

Norinco makes a 97 clone that looks and sounds promising. I thought about it since I really like the style, but I really want the history that comes with the real thing :)

I haven't looked into Norinco much. I know there were quite a few 1911 raceguns based on their platform into the 90s. But their M1A clones from the Polytech division had some different specs to the point most US gunsmiths refused to work on them. So I'd try to find a WIN 97 or Norinco forum just to see what others say.
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(06-16-2018, 10:33 PM)Catch Wrote:
(06-16-2018, 10:17 PM)Red Auroras Wrote:
(06-16-2018, 09:16 PM)Catch Wrote: I have a Winchester Model 1912 that was originally chambered for 2-1/2" shells. I've read that you can use 2-3/4" but when I watch videos, they seem to jam a lot. I really love this old shotgun (think WWII trench gun), but I've never shot it. It may run these short shells just fine.

While I was in Korea, I just knew there had to be some Thompsons stashed somewhere after the war. Even hooked up with a guy that made his fortune smuggling Japanese chips and selling them to companies like LG and Daewoo. Heh heh...he was paying me $35/hr to teach his kids "conversational English" on the side. So we finally got to the subject. "Oh you gonna have to deal with these people to find that." As he folded down his pinky finger. Ummm, nevermind.

But all my students knew my hobby and took me down some alley. Walked in and as soon as he saw me, started slamming the iron bars across one wall. They talked and he relaxed. He had an entire wall of Win 97s (exposed hammer WWI trench guns) stashed back there! Easily 75 of them! He let me pull one down and yeah, the finish was worn but racking the slide just to make sure it was unloaded, it was smooooth. Most of the stocks had dings and scratches but I'd still rate them as "good". The real puzzle was that he refused to sell at any price.

Awesome story!

The model 97 has been on my shopping list for awhile. I've only seen one in person...all of 'em have been triple my budget lol. I'll keep looking.

Norinco makes a 97 clone that looks and sounds promising. I thought about it since I really like the style, but I really want the history that comes with the real thing :)

I've been waiting for years to get my Hands on a Norinco Trench gun. They sold out very fast in Canada, and were very limited to a store or two.
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(06-17-2018, 12:12 AM)Red Auroras Wrote:
(06-16-2018, 10:33 PM)Catch Wrote: Awesome story!

The model 97 has been on my shopping list for awhile. I've only seen one in person...all of 'em have been triple my budget lol. I'll keep looking.

Norinco makes a 97 clone that looks and sounds promising. I thought about it since I really like the style, but I really want the history that comes with the real thing :)

I haven't looked into Norinco much. I know there were quite a few 1911 raceguns based on their platform into the 90s. But their M1A clones from the Polytech division had some different specs to the point most US gunsmiths refused to work on them. So I'd try to find a WIN 97 or Norinco forum just to see what others say.
I have one, it is a blast! The slam-fire is fun, but with buck-shot it can be hard to keep the muzzle down, having the bayonet fixed helps a lot.
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(06-24-2018, 09:54 PM)Cid Wrote: I have one, it is a blast! The slam-fire is fun, but with buck-shot it can be hard to keep the muzzle down, having the bayonet fixed helps a lot.

Damn, that's right! I'd forgotten reading that was a "feature" on the Norinco version.

Waay back in '82, I got a good deal getting assigned as aux security for the LA Olympics. Had to go through Navy security training including the range. I fooled around and shot high score of the class (with an aircrew S&W Mod 12 TYVM) so the rangemaster already had me pegged as a sandbagger. But the shotgun drill was run with Ithaca 37s. They had plastic versions of #27 targets propped up. You can guess how I ran the drill.
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Maybe this should be it's own thread...

Judge Brett Kavanaugh Has Earned NRA Members’ Support
the Second Amendment as construed in Heller protects weapons that have not traditionally been banned and are in common use by law-abiding citizens. Semi-automatic rifles have not traditionally been banned and are in common use today, and are thus protected under Heller.

Even if it were appropriate to apply some kind of balancing test or level of scrutiny to D.C.’s ban on semiautomatic rifles, the proper test would be strict scrutiny, as explained above…. D.C. cannot show a compelling interest in banning semi-automatic rifles because the necessary implication of the decision in Heller is that D.C. could not show a sufficiently compelling interest to justify its banning semi-automatic handguns.


https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180713...rs-support
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(02-17-2018, 04:22 PM)JF Priest Wrote:


This is a particularly good instructional video. Lenny really knows his stuff and his discussion about "pre-aligned sights" is excellent. Practice, practice, practice.
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Hey, Priest! First, Bless me Father for i have sinned, yesterday I went to the range and was all over the damned place 'cause I ain't been there in so long!
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Recently I acquired a Henry .357/.38 rifle (used, came with a scope) in really nice shape. What do you recommend I watch or do before I take it to the range?
I will admit, I've wanted one for a long time but need a little help on best practices with this particular rifle. Have you ever had one? I have not but I do now.

P.S. Some asshats took some armor piercing shit to the range, so get some magnets.
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