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#21
Russia will be provoked into invading Ukraine and then the shit will hit the fan for real.
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#22
(12-14-2018, 01:33 PM)FallingDown Wrote: But wait Russia said  98% of people voted in favor of the Crimea referendum!

That must be true because it came from Russia  when they held their “fair” open elections with 83% turn out .


 Only problem is that  98% of  human beings  have never agreed on  anything since the dawn of history.

Again you have all been had .

You just don't know what you're talking about concerning this. Crimea used to be part of Russia,
it was gifted back technically to Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954 who was Ukrainian, but since Ukraine
and Russia were both merely Soviet Republics within the USSR it mattered to nobody but the party bureaucrats.
The demographics of Crimea is unlike Western/Central Ukraine. Crimea was only 24% Ukrainian in 2014.
58.6% of Crimea's population in 2014 was Russian. Couple these facts with the illegal coup that overthrew
the Ukrainian government, and the violence taking place close by, it's not hard to see why Crimeans voted
overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia. There are hundreds of videos of peaceful balloting and happy, celebrating
Crimeans by the thousands. https://www.quora.com/topic/2014-Crimean-Referendum
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(12-14-2018, 03:18 PM)Treebeard Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 01:33 PM)FallingDown Wrote: But wait Russia said  98% of people voted in favor of the Crimea referendum!

That must be true because it came from Russia  when they held their “fair” open elections with 83% turn out .


 Only problem is that  98% of  human beings  have never agreed on  anything since the dawn of history.

Again you have all been had .

You just don't know what you're talking about concerning this. Crimea used to be part of Russia,
it was gifted back technically to Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954 who was Ukrainian, but since Ukraine
and Russia were both merely Soviet Republics within the USSR it mattered to nobody but the party bureaucrats.
The demographics of Crimea is unlike Western/Central Ukraine. Crimea was only 24% Ukrainian in 2014.
58.6% of Crimea's population in 2014 was Russian. Couple these facts with the illegal coup that overthrew
the Ukrainian government, and the violence taking place close by, it's not hard to see why Crimeans voted
overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia. There are hundreds of videos of peaceful balloting and happy, celebrating
Crimeans by the thousands. https://www.quora.com/topic/2014-Crimean-Referendum

Dude I spent two years fighting the Russian trolls. I knew everything you said.

Russia crossed sovereign borders then Crimea was annexed by threat of force. The easiest way to tell the annexation was a lie. Is that their claim of 98% voted in favor during a referendum. Complete and utter bullshit if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being guileful

Here’s something you don’t know ....


There are around 264 nations in the world. Would you care to explain to me why only seven recognize the independence of Crimea.

Here’s an honesty test for you.

Were the Russians complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?
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Total agreement makes you copy paste “


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(12-14-2018, 03:34 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:18 PM)Treebeard Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 01:33 PM)FallingDown Wrote: But wait Russia said  98% of people voted in favor of the Crimea referendum!

That must be true because it came from Russia  when they held their “fair” open elections with 83% turn out .


 Only problem is that  98% of  human beings  have never agreed on  anything since the dawn of history.

Again you have all been had .

You just don't know what you're talking about concerning this. Crimea used to be part of Russia,
it was gifted back technically to Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954 who was Ukrainian, but since Ukraine
and Russia were both merely Soviet Republics within the USSR it mattered to nobody but the party bureaucrats.
The demographics of Crimea is unlike Western/Central Ukraine. Crimea was only 24% Ukrainian in 2014.
58.6% of Crimea's population in 2014 was Russian. Couple these facts with the illegal coup that overthrew
the Ukrainian government, and the violence taking place close by, it's not hard to see why Crimeans voted
overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia. There are hundreds of videos of peaceful balloting and happy, celebrating
Crimeans by the thousands. https://www.quora.com/topic/2014-Crimean-Referendum

Dude I spent two years fighting the Russian trolls. I knew everything you said.

Russia crossed sovereign borders then Crimea was annexed by threat of force. The easiest way to tell the annexation was a lie.  Is that their claim of 98% voted in favor during a referendum.  Complete and utter bullshit  if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being  guileful

Here’s something you don’t know ....


There are around 264 nations in the world. Would you care to explain to me why only seven recognize the independence of Crimea.

Here’s an honesty test for you.

Were the Russians complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?

Eyeroll

Talk about honesty when everything you said is slanted.
As if there was no CIA Coup
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https://youtu.be/HahBI7nCQqs
Might have just kicked off...
Today was the day
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(12-14-2018, 03:52 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:34 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:18 PM)Treebeard Wrote: You just don't know what you're talking about concerning this. Crimea used to be part of Russia,
it was gifted back technically to Ukraine by Kruschev in 1954 who was Ukrainian, but since Ukraine
and Russia were both merely Soviet Republics within the USSR it mattered to nobody but the party bureaucrats.
The demographics of Crimea is unlike Western/Central Ukraine. Crimea was only 24% Ukrainian in 2014.
58.6% of Crimea's population in 2014 was Russian. Couple these facts with the illegal coup that overthrew
the Ukrainian government, and the violence taking place close by, it's not hard to see why Crimeans voted
overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia. There are hundreds of videos of peaceful balloting and happy, celebrating
Crimeans by the thousands. https://www.quora.com/topic/2014-Crimean-Referendum

Dude I spent two years fighting the Russian trolls. I knew everything you said.

Russia crossed sovereign borders then Crimea was annexed by threat of force. The easiest way to tell the annexation was a lie.  Is that their claim of 98% voted in favor during a referendum.  Complete and utter bullshit  if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being  guileful

Here’s something you don’t know ....


There are around 264 nations in the world. Would you care to explain to me why only seven recognize the independence of Crimea.

Here’s an honesty test for you.

Were the Russians complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?

Eyeroll

Talk about honesty when everything you said is slanted.
As if there was no CIA Coup

So you actually believe 98% of Crimeans voted for annexation ?

Why don’t you take the honesty test ?

Was Russia complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?


Edit;

How much did the US spend on the CIA coup in Ukraine ?


( be very careful that is a trap )
.


“An opposing view makes you think
Total agreement makes you copy paste “


Me





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(12-14-2018, 06:30 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:52 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:34 PM)FallingDown Wrote: Dude I spent two years fighting the Russian trolls. I knew everything you said.

Russia crossed sovereign borders then Crimea was annexed by threat of force. The easiest way to tell the annexation was a lie.  Is that their claim of 98% voted in favor during a referendum.  Complete and utter bullshit  if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being  guileful

Here’s something you don’t know ....


There are around 264 nations in the world. Would you care to explain to me why only seven recognize the independence of Crimea.

Here’s an honesty test for you.

Were the Russians complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?

Eyeroll

Talk about honesty when everything you said is slanted.
As if there was no CIA Coup

So you actually believe 98% of Crimeans voted for annexation ?

Why don’t you take the honesty test ?

Was Russia complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?


Edit;

How much did the US spend on the CIA coup in Ukraine ?


( be very careful that is a trap )

I think both sides are corrupt, and that's it's a game to stage the ultimate polarization of people across the planet.

Defending one side or the other is ridiculous at this point.

I don't need to take your stupid test. Your obfuscating the issue, and at this point.. doesn't matter.
Looks like Ukraine has begun it's offensive, which is what Russia would want to justify a retaliation.. and more.
They play into eachother hands.

And sure they were complicit. Russian Mafia, which is now largely Israel as well.. funded mostly by Rothschild who took over a very important patent when all the Chinese scientists died. Russia, by the logic I am using, (USSR), is just as complicit as Israel in the 9/11 attack.

ANYWAYS, as much as I love defending myself to you from my phone.. I will be leaving now, have fun.
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(12-14-2018, 06:55 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:30 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:52 PM)Guest Wrote: Eyeroll

Talk about honesty when everything you said is slanted.
As if there was no CIA Coup

So you actually believe 98% of Crimeans voted for annexation ?

Why don’t you take the honesty test ?

Was Russia complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?


Edit;

How much did the US spend on the CIA coup in Ukraine ?


( be very careful that is a trap )

I think both sides are corrupt, and that's it's a game to stage the ultimate polarization of people across the planet.

Defending one side or the other is ridiculous at this point.

I don't need to take your stupid test. Your obfuscating the issue, and at this point.. doesn't matter.
Looks like Ukraine has begun it's offensive, which is what Russia would want to justify a retaliation.. and more.
They play into eachother hands.

And sure they were complicit. Russian Mafia, which is now largely Israel as well.. funded mostly by Rothschild who took over a very important patent when all the Chinese scientists died. Russia, by the logic I am using, (USSR), is just as complicit as Israel in the 9/11 attack.

ANYWAYS, as much as I love defending myself to you from my phone.. I will be leaving now, have fun.

I think it was the people’s will.

You won’t answer the honesty test because you don’t want to be honest.

You were influenced by the trolls because of your slanted view. To you the US is evil and they’re behind everything.

The CIA is evil and they’re behind everything too! If 100 people Die in a mass shooting. It’s the USA’s fault! The CIA’s behind it! It’s a false flag! It’s a hoax!



It’s ridiculous to base every decision you make on multiple conspiracy theories. I know conspiracy is part of the site. And many conspiracies have merit.

But Jesus get a grip .

Research the topic again. But don’t go looking for what you want to see .

RT and global research ( among many others )are not your friends when understanding Russia .

At least you had sense enough not to fall into the trap I’ll give you that .


Disclaimer

This subject has pissed me off for a long time. During discussions I’m probably not gonna be very friendly .
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“An opposing view makes you think
Total agreement makes you copy paste “


Me





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#29
Quote:if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being guileful

So you don't think Russia is doing nothing more than defending its own citizens against attack from hostile forces installed by a foreign power?
Live without fear.
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#30
(12-14-2018, 07:10 PM)Dr Evil Wrote:
Quote:if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being  guileful

So you don't think Russia is doing nothing more than defending its own citizens against attack from hostile forces installed by a foreign power?

It's complicated..
I can't explain what I think here.

I do get your sentiment, and I hold more sympathy for those who reconcile on the side of Russia at this point.
I just, in my personal opinion, see neither side as sincerely caring for their people. Though I do recognize the appearances. Banning GMOs, having the ability to keep their people safe to an extent in the event of war, defending people in other territories.. This includes Crimea.


I think it's a stage though, at the end of the day. You still got people like Semion Mogalivich living in Moscow with dual Israeli citizenship. Russia goose steps a lot with Israel. 5G and the control grid is still going up there
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