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#31
(12-14-2018, 06:06 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 05:55 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 05:30 PM)FallingDown Wrote: So you actually believe 98% of Crimeans voted for annexation ?

Why don’t you take the honesty test ?

Was Russia complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?


Edit;

How much did the US spend on the CIA coup in Ukraine ?


( be very careful that is a trap )

I think both sides are corrupt, and that's it's a game to stage the ultimate polarization of people across the planet.

Defending one side or the other is ridiculous at this point.

I don't need to take your stupid test. Your obfuscating the issue, and at this point.. doesn't matter.
Looks like Ukraine has begun it's offensive, which is what Russia would want to justify a retaliation.. and more.
They play into eachother hands.

And sure they were complicit. Russian Mafia, which is now largely Israel as well.. funded mostly by Rothschild who took over a very important patent when all the Chinese scientists died. Russia, by the logic I am using, (USSR), is just as complicit as Israel in the 9/11 attack.

ANYWAYS, as much as I love defending myself to you from my phone.. I will be leaving now, have fun.

I think it was the people’s will.

You won’t answer the honesty test because you don’t want to be honest.

You were influenced by the trolls because of your slanted view. To you the US is evil and they’re behind everything.

The CIA is evil and they’re behind everything too!  If 100 people Die in a mass shooting. It’s the USA’s fault! The CIA’s behind it! It’s a false flag! It’s a hoax!



It’s ridiculous to base every decision you make on multiple conspiracy theories. I know conspiracy is part of the site.  And many conspiracies have merit.

But Jesus get a grip .

Research the topic again. But don’t go looking for what you want to see .

RT and global research ( among many others )are not your friends when understanding Russia .

At least you had sense enough not to fall into the trap I’ll give you that .


Disclaimer

This subject has pissed me off for a long time. During discussions I’m probably not gonna be very friendly .

I don't care. You presume to understand what I see, and your wrong.

Be mad, I am not going to sit here and baby you from my phone because I get my main IP banned every time when I am being civil.
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#33
(12-14-2018, 06:06 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 05:55 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 05:30 PM)FallingDown Wrote: So you actually believe 98% of Crimeans voted for annexation ?

Why don’t you take the honesty test ?

Was Russia complicit in the downing of MH 17 ?


Edit;

How much did the US spend on the CIA coup in Ukraine ?


( be very careful that is a trap )

I think both sides are corrupt, and that's it's a game to stage the ultimate polarization of people across the planet.

Defending one side or the other is ridiculous at this point.

I don't need to take your stupid test. Your obfuscating the issue, and at this point.. doesn't matter.
Looks like Ukraine has begun it's offensive, which is what Russia would want to justify a retaliation.. and more.
They play into eachother hands.

And sure they were complicit. Russian Mafia, which is now largely Israel as well.. funded mostly by Rothschild who took over a very important patent when all the Chinese scientists died. Russia, by the logic I am using, (USSR), is just as complicit as Israel in the 9/11 attack.

ANYWAYS, as much as I love defending myself to you from my phone.. I will be leaving now, have fun.

I think it was the people’s will.

You won’t answer the honesty test because you don’t want to be honest.

You were influenced by the trolls because of your slanted view. To you the US is evil and they’re behind everything.

The CIA is evil and they’re behind everything too!  If 100 people Die in a mass shooting. It’s the USA’s fault! The CIA’s behind it! It’s a false flag! It’s a hoax!



It’s ridiculous to base every decision you make on multiple conspiracy theories. I know conspiracy is part of the site.  And many conspiracies have merit.

But Jesus get a grip .

Research the topic again. But don’t go looking for what you want to see .

RT and global research ( among many others )are not your friends when understanding Russia .

At least you had sense enough not to fall into the trap I’ll give you that .


Disclaimer

This subject has pissed me off for a long time. During discussions I’m probably not gonna be very friendly .

And.. People's will..
Jptdknpa

That has to be a joke.
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#34
(12-14-2018, 06:10 PM)Dr Evil Wrote:
Quote:if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being  guileful

So you don't think Russia is doing nothing more than defending its own citizens against attack from hostile forces installed by a foreign power?

No I’m saying Russia crossed a sovereign border and annexed through threat of force. Then they rigged a election with ridiculous results.

There are lot of English speakers in Canada. Is it OK for us to do the same ?

Macron is a threat to the French people can Quebec invade France by your criteria ?

That’s the problem with this issue people who fell for Russian propaganda then married it.



All Putin wanted in Crimea was oil/gas.
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“An opposing view makes you think
total agreement makes you copy paste “


FD





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#35
(12-14-2018, 06:32 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:10 PM)Dr Evil Wrote:
Quote:if you believe that lie you’re gullible, if you know it’s a lie you’re being  guileful

So you don't think Russia is doing nothing more than defending its own citizens against attack from hostile forces installed by a foreign power?

No I’m saying Russia crossed a sovereign border and annexed through threat of force. Then they rigged a election with ridiculous results.

There are lot of English speakers in Canada. Is it OK for us to do the same ?

Macron is a threat to the French people can Quebec invade France by your criteria ?

That’s the problem with this issue people who fell for Russian propaganda then married it.



 All Putin wanted in Crimea was oil/gas.

Screw off your your so called criteria you hypocrite. If you held the same standard to the US or Israel.. well, you get where I am going. Keep telling yourself that I am brainwashed, filled with Russian propaganda.. OBVIOUSLY you haven't actually read anything I have said. I'm not fond of Russia either. I just don't justify the B.s. we have done because of it.

Putin didn't want NATO having a giant ass border next to it either. Which was part of an agreement during the cold war. Lots of shit you tend to just ignore as variables.


I'M OFF. Can't do this from my phone and at work now. Tell yourself whatever

Don't assume what I see
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#36
(12-14-2018, 06:27 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:06 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 05:55 PM)Guest Wrote: I think both sides are corrupt, and that's it's a game to stage the ultimate polarization of people across the planet.

Defending one side or the other is ridiculous at this point.

I don't need to take your stupid test. Your obfuscating the issue, and at this point.. doesn't matter.
Looks like Ukraine has begun it's offensive, which is what Russia would want to justify a retaliation.. and more.
They play into eachother hands.

And sure they were complicit. Russian Mafia, which is now largely Israel as well.. funded mostly by Rothschild who took over a very important patent when all the Chinese scientists died. Russia, by the logic I am using, (USSR), is just as complicit as Israel in the 9/11 attack.

ANYWAYS, as much as I love defending myself to you from my phone.. I will be leaving now, have fun.

I think it was the people’s will.

You won’t answer the honesty test because you don’t want to be honest.

You were influenced by the trolls because of your slanted view. To you the US is evil and they’re behind everything.

The CIA is evil and they’re behind everything too!  If 100 people Die in a mass shooting. It’s the USA’s fault! The CIA’s behind it! It’s a false flag! It’s a hoax!



It’s ridiculous to base every decision you make on multiple conspiracy theories. I know conspiracy is part of the site.  And many conspiracies have merit.

But Jesus get a grip .

Research the topic again. But don’t go looking for what you want to see .

RT and global research ( among many others )are not your friends when understanding Russia .

At least you had sense enough not to fall into the trap I’ll give you that .


Disclaimer

This subject has pissed me off for a long time. During discussions I’m probably not gonna be very friendly .

I don't care. You presume to understand what I see, and your wrong.

Be mad, I am not going to sit here and baby you from my phone because I get my main IP banned every time when I am being civil.

I’m trying to use logic. The problem is you can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t use logic to come up with in the first place .

I’ll try again.

Do you really believe 98% of all people in Crimea voted for the referendum ?
.


“An opposing view makes you think
total agreement makes you copy paste “


FD





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#37
All Putin wanted in Crimea was oil/gas.

I don't agree. Putin wants to protect the ethnic Russian majority in Crimea against a hostile regime installed by a foreign power, is why he annexed it.

Your analogy is flawed. This is like Mexico having a region where the population is 80% American and Russia installs a Nazi regime in Mexico who are posing a grave and increasingly direct threat to the millions of American lives there. What would you expect the POTUS to do in that case?
Live without fear.
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#38
(12-14-2018, 06:38 PM)Guest Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:32 PM)FallingDown Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:10 PM)Dr Evil Wrote: So you don't think Russia is doing nothing more than defending its own citizens against attack from hostile forces installed by a foreign power?

No I’m saying Russia crossed a sovereign border and annexed through threat of force. Then they rigged a election with ridiculous results.

There are lot of English speakers in Canada. Is it OK for us to do the same ?

Macron is a threat to the French people can Quebec invade France by your criteria ?

That’s the problem with this issue people who fell for Russian propaganda then married it.



 All Putin wanted in Crimea was oil/gas.

Screw off your your so called criteria you hypocrite. If you held the same standard to the US or Israel.. well, you get where I am going. Keep telling yourself that I am brainwashed, filled with Russian propaganda.. OBVIOUSLY you haven't actually read anything I have said. I'm not fond of Russia either. I just don't justify the B.s. we have done because of it.

Putin didn't want NATO having a giant ass border next to it either. Which was part of an agreement during the cold war. Lots of shit you tend to just ignore as variables.


I'M OFF. Can't do this from my phone and at work now. Tell yourself whatever

Don't assume what I see

Kbye Lmao
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“An opposing view makes you think
total agreement makes you copy paste “


FD





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#39
(12-14-2018, 06:38 PM)Dr Evil Wrote: All Putin wanted in Crimea was oil/gas.

I don't agree. Putin wants to protect the ethnic Russian majority in Crimea against a hostile regime installed by a foreign power, is why he annexed it.

Your analogy is flawed. This is like Mexico having a region where the population is 80% American and Russia installs a Nazi regime in Mexico who are threatening millions of American lives. What would you expect the POTUS to do in that case?

Which is a big part of why the White Swan went to Venezuela.

BTW. Talk of Ukraine attacking a airport with tanks, and fighting going on. Not confirmed

December 14 was when the 12,000 troops were supposed to be ready
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#40
(12-14-2018, 06:40 PM)Guest Wrote: Which is a big part of why the White Swan went to Venezuela.

That's a direct signal from Putin to Trump not to start something neither of them can stop and a reminder Putin is ready to use it if Trump forces his hand and fails to reign in his neocon thugs.
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