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trump tells abbas he is moving embasy to jerusalem
(12-06-2017, 05:14 PM)Munchaab Wrote:
(12-06-2017, 05:08 PM)KOMMA Wrote:
(12-06-2017, 04:51 PM)Munchaab Wrote: I have no religion so I won't say I understand in my heart what this means to the Jews, Christians, Muslims or others...

For discussion only and not as a statement of "what should be" I would like to see Jerusalem made an independent place (maybe protected by UN?) in which the Israelis have their Capital in the West and the Palestinians have their Capital in the East...

My understanding is International Law does not recognise Israel as being beyond the 1967 boarders, Israel claims today's boarders and Palestine only accepts 1947 boarders with some not even recognising the 1917 Balfour declaration...

1dunno1

When I think of what @Skyrison predicts will come from this - and he's probably right - I will defend PEOPLE - but Governments, Institutions, Movements, "Churches", Policies and politicians etc are fair game...

Calls to violence, wishes for death etc will (as always) be deleted on sight - keep it up after warning and a ban will eventually follow - I'm hoping we as a community will avoid this and can as usual come to agreement or agree to disagree with each other!

Heartflowers  Heartflowers  Heartflowers

Munchaab, it's important to note that 70% of the people that lived in Gaza were Christians. When I was in Israel, Christian Armenians also said that they lived in the West Bank. Some people think the word "palestinian" =  Muslim, it doesn't.

I know, I lived in Turkey and know the word Muslim = Submitted to God...

They call those who speak or act on behalf as God as "ISLAMISTS" and NOT Muslims...

Turkish people HATE Islamists and Erdoğan (who they see as an Islamist not a Muslim)...

REAL (spiritual) religious people know they have more in common than in conflict...

Heartflowers  Heartflowers  Heartflowers

i knew you're ex mi6. Yeah3

you're right about the turkish people. they're very secular due to atatürk. unfortunately the climate is changing and turkey slowly is on its way to become just another islamist country.
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what's up with that guest troll?
it's easy to get rid of tor users btw.
and if he's using a proxy its still possible to detect it.
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(12-09-2017, 06:18 PM)flipper666 Wrote: what's up with that guest troll?
it's easy to get rid of tor users btw.
and if he's using a proxy its still possible to detect it.

He is just trying to make a friend the best way he knows how !
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Why would an Arab Muslim serve in the Israeli military? Because he, like many Israeli Arabs, proudly defend the nation that has given them freedom and opportunity. Mohammad Kabiya, Israeli Air Force reservist, shares his remarkable story.



The Virgin stood with 60 just ones against Obama.

http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/apoczephaniah.html

Now the departed righteous dwell in a place of perpetual light, it's the only way that we can live a healthy life.  Heartflowers

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(12-09-2017, 01:06 PM)ChillBro Wrote:
(12-09-2017, 12:58 PM)SouthernBelle Wrote:
(12-09-2017, 09:57 AM)Skyrison Wrote: iran will NEVER do shit EVER again.  they had their rule with the persian empire way back in history.  They wouldn't dare try to start a war, they would get brutally stomped.  It's not the medieval times anymore.

If given a chance, they could contribute a lot to Science and Engineering world-wide.
Lots of smart hardworking well-educated people there.

Heartflowers

If the people rise up and overthrow their Islamic fundamentalist overseers then perhaps they could. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening:( at least not any time soon

any and all words pertaining to Islam or Muslim are FOREVER stained with the ideas of terrorism beheadings barbaric middle ages demented zealotry and intolerance... Chopping off of hands pedophilia rape and savagery. Throwing living human beings off of buildings while they begged for their lives with a complete lack of empathy or humanity.

That is what Islam is period and forever.

It should be eradicated.

Until it is there will be horrors heaped on horrors.

No but but from the idiotic left.
That genie is NEVER GOING BACK INTO the bottle. They blew it FOREVER.

Actions have consequences and they have failed as hard as you possibly can.

Nothing will ever change the notion either.
In times of universal Idiocy... Critical thought becomes a revolutionary act! CUI BONO?
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US Presidents have been regularly deferring action on the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 for 22 years because such action was feared to result in fury in the Arab world. Why is Trump now taking action? The media is quick to point out that this is in keeping with his campaign promise to conservative voters. It is also true that the Middle East is more settled now that ISIS has been essentially defeated, but the peace also affirms the bond between Russia and Iran and Assad of Syria, which is likely to make Israel uneasy. Yet another political reality is that the US and Russia both may pull out of Iraq, as the ISIS defeat becomes a firm reality.

But none of these possible reasons for Trump’s actions lie at the heart of his decision. We have alluded to a back door announcement, where so many facts are laid at the feet of the common man that an official announcement is hardly necessary. The Patriarch Kirill made reference in a speech on November 20 that the world was in the End Times, and mentioned the Book of Revelations, as did the David Meade controversy. Now Trump has invoked the End Times, inadvertently. All religions and cultures
have holy writ and myths that foretell the End Times. Watch for these to be increasingly referenced in the media.
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 The Sign Says, Quiet. Yo Yo's On Strings !
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It's been really interesting that Trump and Israel supporters are being totally rational, calm and peaceful, and those against, you know what they're like.
The Virgin stood with 60 just ones against Obama.

http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/apoczephaniah.html

Now the departed righteous dwell in a place of perpetual light, it's the only way that we can live a healthy life.  Heartflowers

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