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(12-05-2019, 08:58 AM)Just Jo Wrote:
(12-05-2019, 12:58 AM)Verity Wrote:
(12-04-2019, 11:44 PM)Pope Trollalotta Wrote: I think all the Catholic church really cares about is filling the pews and keeping the collection baskets full of parishioners dollars. Once I actually read the Bible I had to wonder what book it was the Catholic church followed because it could not be the Bible. The Catholics love graven idols and going beyond what is written. Mary is revered it seems even more than Christ as the "Mother of God".

When it comes to Communion there is no stranger religion than Jehovah's Witnesses. Their communion is a ritual rejection of Christ. They call it "The Memorial" and bread and wine "emblems". It is held once a year on the date Nisan 14 of the Jewish calendar.

According to their theology only 144,000 humans will go to heaven. That covers all of human history. They believe that only members of the 144,000 are allowed to take communion. They are said to have a heavenly hope and they are to rule as kings with Christ.

As for the rest they are called "other sheep" and have an earthly hope. That is pretty much all Jehovah's Witnesses. They believe that by preaching and following every petty rule the Watchtower imposes they will be resurrected to live forever on a paradise earth. They believe that only Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon and the entire rest of humanity will be killed.

At the Memorial the "Other Sheep" will pass the bread and wine but not partake. If a Witness does partake it is assumed they are mentally ill for doing so. A witness who eats the bread and drinks the wine will find themselves shunned. The only Witnesses who can get away with partaking are usually members of the Governing Body.

Essentially what the Jehovah's Witness Memorial really is could only be considered a "Black Satanic Mass".

I understand that Catholics are actually dissuaded from reading Scripture
and instructed to hear it only from their priests.  1dunno1 To this day
I know that many if not most Catholics are wholly unfamiliar with the Bible.


What you shared about the abysmal cult of Jehovah's Witnesses is truly
appalling.  Scream1 The false pride of mankind truly knows no bounds,
no matter how utterly depraved.

I have never heard this.  I am not Catholic but my wife was born and raised Catholic.  From time to time we attend Catholic service with her dad.  They read from scripture and encourage it.  Where you have heard this, I don't know?

In my fathers later years he was a devout Catholic and attended services every Sunday. He did not even own a Bible. Yes they read from Scripture each Sunday but they pick and choose. As a kid going to Catechism we used books that explained Catholic Teachings. I can't recall ever even seeing a Bible in those classes. My family had been Catholic going back many generations and yet there was no family Bible. We did however own a book that was the size of five bibles full of stories about Catholic Saints. There were rosaries and crucifixes and a statue of Mary in the house but no Bibles.

In most protestant church's it is unheard of to not own a read the Bible. Bibles are bought to church services and Bible studies. I can't recall ever seeing a Catholic bringing a Bible to Mass. Some may but I never saw it that I can recall. The last time I was in a Catholic Church was for my fathers funeral Mass and there was not a Bible to be seen.
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(12-05-2019, 09:32 AM)Verity Wrote: JWs appear to have much in common with Islam/Sharia.  Facepalm



So disgraceful. Just more abuse for the child to endure! To say nothing
of the "elders"/members' aiding and abetting criminals.




Almost had to laugh at this but they are clearly as a whole no laughing
matter and a real menace to those in their clutches, especially
children. tears

Yes they do have that in Common with Islam. The Australian Royal Commission investigated child abuse among Witnesses and had a Governing Body member named Geoffrey Jackson on the witness stand testifying under oath. Jackson was asked if the Governing Body considered themselves to be Gods only channel of communication between God and man. He said that to say that would "be presumptuous". That was an outright lie.
https://doctrinesoffaith.com/watchtower-...nder-oath/

Jehovah's Witnesses are as sexually repressed in many ways as Catholic Priests. By the time a young man or woman reaches 18 they are expected to be married. That is not a written rule but rather a part of their culture. They will often play matchmaker. Masturbation is a sin that can get you disfellowshipped. Any kind of sex outside of marriage will get you Disfellowshipped.

Men can not even be friends with a woman in the congregation or spend anytime alone with a woman. If you are seen alone with a woman the elders will "counsel you". Witnesses may only date other witnesses and that is a very small dating pool. Men and women who have no attraction at all to each other are pushed into marriage after just two or three dates. Those dates are always chaperoned.

This video shows just how crazy they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qirjv48C55M

Here is a rant about "tight pants" by Governing Body member Tony Morris also known as "Tight Pants Tony"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5-32BJ5Adg

Tony is also known as Top Shelf Tony after he was busted in a liqueur store buying $900 of expensive Scotch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4oBqrQ1UY
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I have never heard this.  I am not Catholic but my wife was born and raised Catholic.  From time to time we attend Catholic service with her dad.  They read from scripture and encourage it.  Where you have heard this, I don't know?
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It's something I have long understood from various sources. The most
recent example was listening to a youngish, not yet middle-aged woman
radio caller who spoke of how she was not long out of the Catholic church,  
and her bible illiteracy that was consistent with her former religion.

Curious whether at the services you read from actual bibles and not say,
prepared writings/excerpted and/or interpreted passages?
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They do use The Missal...(I think it’s called)...with scripture from the Bible.  I imagine it is the Catholic version but they do have bibles in pews as well..so not sure about being told not to read
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(12-05-2019, 07:03 PM)Just Jo Wrote: I have never heard this.  I am not Catholic but my wife was born and raised Catholic.  From time to time we attend Catholic service with her dad.  They read from scripture and encourage it.  Where you have heard this, I don't know?

It's something I have long understood from various sources. The most
recent example was listening to a youngish, not yet middle-aged woman
radio caller who spoke of how she was not long out of the Catholic church,  
and her bible illiteracy that was consistent with her former religion.

Curious whether at the services you read from actual bibles and not say,
prepared writings/excerpted and/or interpreted passages?
[/quote]

They do use The Missal...(I think it’s called)...with scripture from the Bible.  I imagine it is the Catholic version but they do have bibles in pews as well..so not sure about being told not to read
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I spent a few years in Catholic school and I don't remember bible study being a part of it.
I do remember passages being read at Mass but that was about it.

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(12-05-2019, 07:03 PM)Just Jo Wrote: I have never heard this.  I am not Catholic but my wife was born and raised Catholic.  From time to time we attend Catholic service with her dad.  They read from scripture and encourage it.  Where you have heard this, I don't know?

It's something I have long understood from various sources. The most
recent example was listening to a youngish, not yet middle-aged woman
radio caller who spoke of how she was not long out of the Catholic church,  
and her bible illiteracy that was consistent with her former religion.

Curious whether at the services you read from actual bibles and not say,
prepared writings/excerpted and/or interpreted passages?
[/quote]

They do use The Missal...(I think it’s called)...with scripture from the Bible.  I imagine it is the Catholic version but they do have bibles in pews as well..so not sure about being told not to read
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Thanks for your reply. Hymn books can look a lot like
bibles and hymn books are always in pews, at least
in Lutheran churches and in most Protestant churches
afaik. Not disputing your experience, just that I would
again be very surprised by it especially were bibles to be
found in pews. Bibles btw are not placed even in most
Protestant pews. As @Pope Trollalotta noted above,
parishioners will bring their own to services.

And the rest of his post speaks well to what I have
understood to be the typical Catholic experience
vis-a-vis the Bible.
That's My King! (Dr. S.M. Lockridge, Official) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqTFNfeDnE  Heartflowers
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(12-05-2019, 07:08 PM)LucyBarnable Wrote:
(12-05-2019, 07:03 PM)Just Jo Wrote: I have never heard this.  I am not Catholic but my wife was born and raised Catholic.  From time to time we attend Catholic service with her dad.  They read from scripture and encourage it.  Where you have heard this, I don't know?

It's something I have long understood from various sources. The most
recent example was listening to a youngish, not yet middle-aged woman
radio caller who spoke of how she was not long out of the Catholic church,  
and her bible illiteracy that was consistent with her former religion.

Curious whether at the services you read from actual bibles and not say,
prepared writings/excerpted and/or interpreted passages?

They do use The Missal...(I think it’s called)...with scripture from the Bible.  I imagine it is the Catholic version but they do have bibles in pews as well..so not sure about being told not to read
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I spent a few years in Catholic school and I don't remember bible study being a part of it.
I do remember passages being read at Mass but that was about it.

1dunno1
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Here is an online Missal. I took a quick look and see very few scriptures.

http://www.liturgies.net/Liturgies/Catho.../index.htm
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