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The Death of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
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(05-23-2019, 02:56 AM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(05-23-2019, 02:46 AM)Munchaab Wrote:
(05-23-2019, 02:40 AM)MaximalGravity Wrote: @Munchaab

Edo de Waart = Eddie the Wart.

Just an Ass Hole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_de_Waart

F'k Me - I met that prick on one tour in Germany - he's a really shitty drunk too!

The drunk Ass Hole, is usually an amplification of the inner Ass Hole.

Eddie didn't like me. I didn't need the work and refused to deal with him.

I guess it didn't help matters that, I told the Ad director for the Orchestra that I thought he was a shitty conductor. I wasn't alone in my opinion.

Being a vendor who listens to music, they always listened to my opinion as they would a knowledgeable ticket buyer.

Never saw him conduct - just heard him (drunk) boasting about it - we'd just done an amateur gig down the road and went for a post concert drink in a pub...

He'd just done a pro gig up the road and we ended up in the same pub with him ripping into how "young and stupid" most of our YOUTH orchestra was...

I was a trombonist at the time and pretty much just ignored him - the conductor (a couple years younger than me) took loads of shit off him before one of our youngest members - a cellist - (from the mouths of babes) said something like "Why are you being so horrible to us - as far as you know we were much xxxx better than you were..."
She was a proper Leicester lass so can't remember exactly what filthy language came out of that little girls mouth - but it was funny!

The fucking laughs (AT him) from his own musicians shut him up and he settled his bill and left - the rest of the orchestra were great though - very encouraging to our younger members too!
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#42
I heard he was obsessed with feces.
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#43
Never really liked him.
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There was a TV program on recently about his death. Modern forensic experts said the 'cause of death' stated at the time was incorrect.
The opinion 'Miliary' is related to Tuberculosis they said -but Mozart didn't have TB symptoms.
Septicemia was a more likely cause whereby the decay of blood vessels and organs would cause the 'stench and swelling' (gaseous gangrene).
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#45
I cleaned up this thread over my 1st cup of coffee. It's so odd seeing such intellectual replies followed by a whole page of nonsense. Let's keep it on topic please.
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Just loving this thread. Thanks sivil, everyone! Heartflowers

I am a student of piano all my life. It's my major, music, and the big giant Steinway at the university was a joy to play. Mozart definitely uplifts the frequencies of the brain, listening or playing, doesn't matter. His life was wild, weird, unpredictable, suggesting a high spectrum of autism. I think sepsis is a good bet for his demise, but diabetes and syphilis are also excellent candidates. Wish we could get some samples for DNA testing, but alas...

He is a most intriguing character, and one of the most amazing composers I have had the pleasure to practice and play.

*there are many others of course*

Here's just a wee sample for your listening pleasure:



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(05-23-2019, 08:42 AM)Catch Wrote: I cleaned up this thread over my 1st cup of coffee. It's so odd seeing such intellectual replies followed by a whole page of nonsense. Let's keep it on topic please.

I just checked back in. I guess I missed the nonsense..

Chuckle
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(05-23-2019, 03:46 AM)Munchaab Wrote:
(05-23-2019, 02:56 AM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(05-23-2019, 02:46 AM)Munchaab Wrote: F'k Me - I met that prick on one tour in Germany - he's a really shitty drunk too!

The drunk Ass Hole, is usually an amplification of the inner Ass Hole.

Eddie didn't like me. I didn't need the work and refused to deal with him.

I guess it didn't help matters that, I told the Ad director for the Orchestra that I thought he was a shitty conductor. I wasn't alone in my opinion.

Being a vendor who listens to music, they always listened to my opinion as they would a knowledgeable ticket buyer.

Never saw him conduct - just heard him (drunk) boasting about it - we'd just done an amateur gig down the road and went for a post concert drink in a pub...

He'd just done a pro gig up the road and we ended up in the same pub with him ripping into how "young and stupid" most of our YOUTH orchestra was...

I was a trombonist at the time and pretty much just ignored him - the conductor (a couple years younger than me) took loads of shit off him before one of our youngest members - a cellist - (from the mouths of babes) said something like "Why are you being so horrible to us - as far as you know we were much xxxx better than you were..."
She was a proper Leicester lass so can't remember exactly what filthy language came out of that little girls mouth - but it was funny!

The fucking laughs (AT him) from his own musicians shut him up and he settled his bill and left - the rest of the orchestra were great though - very encouraging to our younger members too!

Most orchestra players aren't going to get rich and famous. My horn player friend works in his family's real estate business, it his primary source of income. For guys like Eddie the Wart, to treat his players poorly (not talking about playing discipline) just discourages their future in the field. I think it could be argued that he needs players more than the players need an AH conductor.

It's a tricky thing, dealing with young people. Some have talent (creativity in my field) and some don't. You can't learn to be creative; you either have it or you don't. Steering the less creative away, is sometimes unpleasant. I don't think, I made any mistakes in those young people I've had work for me.
"We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane."

--Francis Ford Coppola
http://theseventies.berkeley.edu/godfath...amily-man/


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