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Adding this thread link here as it discusses food additives that are allowed in the US but banned in other countries.

https://the-fringe.com/thread-american_f..._countries
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Just put in an offer for 40+ acres of land for my future farm. @Aquarius ? Soon I will need to consult with @bigD111 as cattle are a small part of my plan and he does it right Wink
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(06-10-2019, 10:08 PM)=42 Wrote: Just put in an offer for 40+ acres of land for my future farm. @Aquarius ? Soon I will need to consult with @bigD111 as cattle are a small part of my plan and he does it right  Wink

That's fantastic! Cheer
Let us know if the offer is accepted, or negotiated to acceptance!!
I know from experience a real estate purchase isn't over until escrow closes. Wink

However ...

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... for the first step completed !! Cheer
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(01-17-2019, 07:32 PM)bigD111 Wrote:
(01-17-2019, 07:06 PM)=42 Wrote:
(01-17-2019, 06:37 PM)bigD111 Wrote: The beef industry, of which I am part of has been moving away from antibiotics for 15 years.  Here at the ranch, we use chelated minerals that keeps the cattle healthy and the calves, and that has eliminated 98% of antibiotic use.  The feedlots have done the same.  It is much better than it used to be.  The Hutterites are converting their chicken operations to open range, and that has also reduced the use of antibiotics.  There is still work to do, but we have heard from consumers and are responding!   Heartflowers

Knowing you are involved with cattle, I was hoping you would show up. It is encouraging that you are feeling some pressure from consumers and responding to it! Are you responding individually, or are the changes you are making more industry wide?

How big is your operation?

Besides Cattle (and hunting) do you produce anything else?

It wasn't consumer pressure, it was to our advantage to find a solution, and we did.  We hated having sick calves and losing them, we finally figured out what the causes were, and we solved the problem.  Ours was a deficiency of copper in our feeds.  For others,it was a selenium deficiency, and for some, they had sulphur in the water which was tying up the copper.  It didn't help that our vets had less knowledge than we did.  The cows and calves both eat the mineral, and it has made all the cows much healthier too.  
Right now we are running 400 cows, we used to run 700, but not anymore.  We rent out our excess grass.  We also raise some winter wheat, but none of it is GMO.   Never have.  There is some around, but it is rare, imho.  Most of the wheat these days is a hybrid, but that is not the same.  They cross different varieties to get the hybrids, and this is common practice.We do use roundup (glyphosate), because it is very cost effective, and the only way we can no till farm.  Until we hear from our universities that it is damaging the environment, or people's health, we will continue to do so.  Hemp has been legalized, and we are looking at it, but would probably need irrigation to grow it, and that is not practical here.  I raise some oats and barley on occasion, and we put up a lot of hay!
Back in the day, when we had diary cattle, there was always a mineral block the cattle would lick in the pasture. Don't they still have these?
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(06-12-2019, 01:33 PM)Lobster Boy Wrote:
(01-17-2019, 07:32 PM)bigD111 Wrote:
(01-17-2019, 07:06 PM)=42 Wrote: Knowing you are involved with cattle, I was hoping you would show up. It is encouraging that you are feeling some pressure from consumers and responding to it! Are you responding individually, or are the changes you are making more industry wide?

How big is your operation?

Besides Cattle (and hunting) do you produce anything else?

It wasn't consumer pressure, it was to our advantage to find a solution, and we did.  We hated having sick calves and losing them, we finally figured out what the causes were, and we solved the problem.  Ours was a deficiency of copper in our feeds.  For others,it was a selenium deficiency, and for some, they had sulphur in the water which was tying up the copper.  It didn't help that our vets had less knowledge than we did.  The cows and calves both eat the mineral, and it has made all the cows much healthier too.  
Right now we are running 400 cows, we used to run 700, but not anymore.  We rent out our excess grass.  We also raise some winter wheat, but none of it is GMO.   Never have.  There is some around, but it is rare, imho.  Most of the wheat these days is a hybrid, but that is not the same.  They cross different varieties to get the hybrids, and this is common practice.We do use roundup (glyphosate), because it is very cost effective, and the only way we can no till farm.  Until we hear from our universities that it is damaging the environment, or people's health, we will continue to do so.  Hemp has been legalized, and we are looking at it, but would probably need irrigation to grow it, and that is not practical here.  I raise some oats and barley on occasion, and we put up a lot of hay!
Back in the day, when we had diary cattle, there was always a mineral block the cattle would lick in the pasture. Don't they still have these?

Yes, but they don't usually have the trace minerals, and they need to be chelated to be of any use. They can metabolize it! V6sRZf4
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