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I love the lathe, milling, drilling, smithing, ect.

When you need a million, yay machines.

When you need one beautiful one?
Get thee to a smithery!
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(01-27-2019, 07:47 PM)Sassy Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 07:42 PM)Hazmat Wrote: I recently did an indoor air quality study at a fuel cell MFG plant - can`t say where - but the robots/machines run the show. humans were broom pushers.

NOOOOOOOOO Aaahhh

It`s true, SQ barfs his stuff daily but I`ve seen it. AI lives. Serious background checks, CSIS has visited my my outhouse before I could do a "Hazmat" survey of one of their offices...I know my shit.
Fuck That Shit!
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(01-27-2019, 07:35 PM)Catch Wrote: Great video! Thank you for posting it. When I was designing munitions for the US Military, we used dual turret CNC lathes for machining components. Essentially, there were two 8-station "turrets" that would hold various tooling, With two turrets, you could perform multiple operations at the same time. We had "cells" of these lathes and usually an accompanying machining center with a GE/Fanuc robot in the center. Out one side of the cell, there was a conveyor taking the finished parts out to an area for packaging. Along the conveyor was laser inspection equipment, very accurately checking the parts for specs.

This is a pretty crappy photo (it's actually a photo of a photo) of one of the lathes turning a P.I.C. (precision initiation coupler):

[Image: QPV1i5l.jpg]

And here's some of the precision parts I have machined to use in assembly of equipment I design today:

[Image: X6EljBx.jpg]

[Image: p5IxAAQ.jpg]

With advances in technology though, I am now using high wattage laser cutters more than any other machine tool:

[Image: 5NrTYsB.jpg]

I’ve known a guy my whole life. Probably the laziest person I’ve ever seen. He would party all night and sleep all day .

Then his bosses threw a curveball at him and put him on third shift by himself .

Not to be deterred he soon realized that the parts took 45 minutes to run with the computer assist .

On day number two he brought a cot and a alarm clock in. Chuckle

He would start the part, set the alarm clock for 40 minutes and go to sleep . Then get up when he had to change a part out.


He found the perfect scenario. He could close the bar every night and still get his sleep while doing a good job .



Fucking brilliant !
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“I can’t be around people who take everything I say seriously. I’m not being mean, I’m just sarcastic as hell and I like to joke around. Why are you crying?”





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(01-27-2019, 08:02 PM)FallingDown Wrote: I’ve known a guy my whole life. Probably the laziest person I’ve ever seen.  He would party all night and sleep all day .

Then his bosses threw a curveball at him and put him on third shift by himself .

Not to be deterred he soon realized that the parts took 45 minutes to run  with the computer assist .  

On day number two he brought a cot and a alarm clock in.   Chuckle

He would start the part, set the alarm clock for 40 minutes  and go to sleep . Then get up when he had to change a part out.  


He found the perfect scenario.  He could close the bar every night and still get his sleep while doing a good job .  



Fucking brilliant !

lol, I love that guy!

Years ago, late 90s, Bill Clinton took a steam locomotive "freedom train" on a campaign tour. The engine snapped an axle on the mainline near St. Louis. We got an emergency call and sent our truck down to pull the axle. Back at the shop, we started machining a HUGE replacement axle (fortunately, there were still drawings available). We decided to split up into different shifts so we could keep the lathe running. This thing was a beast. The lathe centerline was above my head and there was a short ladder you had to climb to adjust the tooling each cut. Based on the size (surface speed of the circumference), the lathe was actually turning really low RPMs. It took 30 minutes to make one pass (and there were a bunch of passes to make to get it down to size). The shop owner bought a TV/VCR combo unit and rented some movies for us lol.

Though it only lasted a couple of days, it was the best job I ever had lol.
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(01-27-2019, 08:12 PM)Catch Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 08:02 PM)FallingDown Wrote: I’ve known a guy my whole life. Probably the laziest person I’ve ever seen.  He would party all night and sleep all day .

Then his bosses threw a curveball at him and put him on third shift by himself .

Not to be deterred he soon realized that the parts took 45 minutes to run  with the computer assist .  

On day number two he brought a cot and a alarm clock in.   Chuckle

He would start the part, set the alarm clock for 40 minutes  and go to sleep . Then get up when he had to change a part out.  


He found the perfect scenario.  He could close the bar every night and still get his sleep while doing a good job .  



Fucking brilliant !

lol, I love that guy!

Years ago, late 90s, Bill Clinton took a steam locomotive "freedom train" on a campaign tour. The engine snapped an axle on the mainline near St. Louis. We got an emergency call and sent our truck down to pull the axle. Back at the shop, we started machining a HUGE replacement axle (fortunately, there were still drawings available). We decided to split up into different shifts so we could keep the lathe running. This thing was a beast. The lathe centerline was above my head and there was a short ladder you had to climb to adjust the tooling each cut. Based on the size (surface speed of the circumference), the lathe was actually turning really low RPMs. It took 30 minutes to make one pass (and there were a bunch of passes to make to get it down to size). The shop owner bought a TV/VCR combo unit and rented some movies for us lol.

Though it only lasted a couple of days, it was the best job I ever had lol.

He said they played a lot of darts and snuck off to the paint room to get high. Chuckle
.




“I can’t be around people who take everything I say seriously. I’m not being mean, I’m just sarcastic as hell and I like to joke around. Why are you crying?”





.
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(01-27-2019, 07:35 PM)Catch Wrote: Great video! Thank you for posting it. When I was designing munitions for the US Military, we used dual turret CNC lathes for machining components. Essentially, there were two 8-station "turrets" that would hold various tooling, With two turrets, you could perform multiple operations at the same time. We had "cells" of these lathes and usually an accompanying machining center with a GE/Fanuc robot in the center. Out one side of the cell, there was a conveyor taking the finished parts out to an area for packaging. Along the conveyor was laser inspection equipment, very accurately checking the parts for specs.

This is a pretty crappy photo (it's actually a photo of a photo) of one of the lathes turning a P.I.C. (precision initiation coupler):

[Image: QPV1i5l.jpg]

And here's some of the precision parts I have machined to use in assembly of equipment I design today:

[Image: X6EljBx.jpg]

[Image: p5IxAAQ.jpg]

With advances in technology though, I am now using high wattage laser cutters more than any other machine tool:

[Image: 5NrTYsB.jpg]

Interesting..

As you likely gathered from our exchanges and posts you've read, I occasionally job out machine work. Here in the "Safe and insane" SF Bay Area, Laser cutting has all been outlawed.. That's unless a municipality needs something cut (Soldering is outlawed in some cities), so, water jet cutting is now popular in some shops .

You, might find my workarounds interesting. I use two machinists. One in Sil Valley, owned by a former Metrologist, who does all my prototype work and another who is actually in the City and County of San Francisco where, Dianne Feinstein outlawed all such industry, because she's a bitch and Blue Collar people didn't vote for her, because she's a bitch.

Anyway, my SF machinist is a secret shop. It's located within a industrial kind of company on the outer perimeter of the County. He rents two shop rooms within this company. He has no business phone or does any kind of advertising. The only way you find out about him is word of mouth. My welder gave me his name. The welder is an old friend so, the vetting process was brief. He checks everyone out. He's a one man operation. He keeps funny hours. You kinda make an appointment to see him, then call his cell when at the shop.

He's got a great shop. Some small CNC but, mostly late model manual gear. He does my small finished product runs. He takes business checks but, they are cashed outside SF county. A Completely Stealth operation. He's swamped with work.
The Islamic State militants, known as ISIS, are now using a single, raised index finger as the symbol of their cause.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-04/i...re-we-re-1
https://the-fringe.com/thread-notes_from_underground
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(01-27-2019, 08:27 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Interesting..

As you likely gathered from our exchanges and posts you've read, I occasionally job out machine work. Here in the "Safe and insane" SF Bay Area, Laser cutting has all been outlawed.. That's unless a municipality needs something cut (Soldering is outlawed in some cities), so, water jet cutting is now popular in some shops .

You, might find my workarounds interesting. I use two machinists. One in Sil Valley, owned by a former Metrologist, who does all my prototype work and another who is actually in the City and County of San Francisco where, Dianne Feinstein outlawed all such industry, because she's a bitch and Blue Collar people didn't vote for her, because she's a bitch.

Anyway, my SF machinist is a secret shop. It's located within a industrial kind of company on the outer perimeter of the County. He rents two shop rooms within this company. He has no business phone or does any kind of advertising. The only way you find out about him is word of mouth. My welder gave me his name. The welder is an old friend so, the vetting process was brief. He checks everyone out. He's a one man operation. He keeps funny hours. You kinda make an appointment to see him, then call his cell when at the shop.

He's got a great shop. Some small CNC but, mostly late model manual gear. He does my small finished product runs. He takes business checks but, they are cashed outside SF county. A Completely Stealth operation. He's swamped with work.

Wow, that's interesting? Laser cutting is illegal in SF? Why I wonder? They do take a lot of gasses to operate, but the fumes essentially burn up in the cutting process. I wonder why they are illegal? They are actually very efficient. Maybe they are simply trying to push all manufacturing outside the city limits?

It sounds like your machinist has quite the operation going. I like his style :) If we were closer, I'd send some stuff to you to forward on to him. Currently, we're using a total of 4 shops for our machining and fabrication. I eventually want to bring it all in house, but it will be awhile. It's frustrating at time since I have been around machine tools all my life and now that I own the company, I'm having a hard time swallowing the purchase price (or even lease prices) of the equipment lol. I did have some stuff water jet early on, but they are actually more expensive to operate than a laser.

I had an offer to move to San Francisco years ago. It was a pretty plush offer to be honest. But this small town country boy just couldn't handle the area when I went out to visit. No offense, but today, I'm damn glad I didn't take the offer :p

Good stuff my friend!
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(01-27-2019, 08:57 PM)Catch Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 08:27 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Interesting..

As you likely gathered from our exchanges and posts you've read, I occasionally job out machine work. Here in the "Safe and insane" SF Bay Area, Laser cutting has all been outlawed.. That's unless a municipality needs something cut (Soldering is outlawed in some cities), so, water jet cutting is now popular in some shops .

You, might find my workarounds interesting. I use two machinists. One in Sil Valley, owned by a former Metrologist, who does all my prototype work and another who is actually in the City and County of San Francisco where, Dianne Feinstein outlawed all such industry, because she's a bitch and Blue Collar people didn't vote for her, because she's a bitch.

Anyway, my SF machinist is a secret shop. It's located within a industrial kind of company on the outer perimeter of the County. He rents two shop rooms within this company. He has no business phone or does any kind of advertising. The only way you find out about him is word of mouth. My welder gave me his name. The welder is an old friend so, the vetting process was brief. He checks everyone out. He's a one man operation. He keeps funny hours. You kinda make an appointment to see him, then call his cell when at the shop.

He's got a great shop. Some small CNC but, mostly late model manual gear. He does my small finished product runs. He takes business checks but, they are cashed outside SF county. A Completely Stealth operation. He's swamped with work.

Wow, that's interesting? Laser cutting is illegal in SF? Why I wonder? They do take a lot of gasses to operate, but the fumes essentially burn up in the cutting process. I wonder why they are illegal? They are actually very efficient. Maybe they are simply trying to push all manufacturing outside the city limits?

It sounds like your machinist has quite the operation going. I like his style :)  If we were closer, I'd send some stuff to you to forward on to him. Currently, we're using a total of 4 shops for our machining and fabrication. I eventually want to bring it all in house, but it will be awhile. It's frustrating at time since I have been around machine tools all my life and now that I own the company, I'm having a hard time swallowing the purchase price (or even lease prices) of the equipment lol. I did have some stuff water jet early on, but they are actually more expensive to operate than a laser.

I had an offer to move to San Francisco years ago. It was a pretty plush offer to be honest. But this small town country boy just couldn't handle the area when I went out to visit. No offense, but today, I'm damn glad I didn't take the offer :p

Good stuff my friend!

Let me think before posting more on the topic but, as a fellow business guy who has had a high overhead in tech gear..watch your spending. I had a rule.. If a piece of gear wasn't paying for itself, look into ditching it and finding an outside vendor to do that work, and, mark it up if possible. Also, and this was tough at times, if a piece of hardware hasn't been used in two years, sell it.
The Islamic State militants, known as ISIS, are now using a single, raised index finger as the symbol of their cause.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-04/i...re-we-re-1
https://the-fringe.com/thread-notes_from_underground
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(01-27-2019, 09:15 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Let me think before posting more on the topic but, as a fellow business guy who has had a high overhead in tech gear..watch your spending. I had a rule.. If a piece of gear wasn't paying for itself, look into ditching it and finding an outside vendor to do that work, and, mark it up if possible. Also, and this was tough at times, if a piece of hardware hasn't been used in two years, sell it.

I get exactly what you're saying. I've got the costs pretty nailed down on our systems and the pricing is based on market tolerance. Honestly, the cost of any machine tool itself is easily justifiable other than volume needs to go up first. But, we've only been around for 3 years and growth is on a nice trend...60% 2017 over 2016 and 80% 2018 over 2017. Already this year, we're booked through May with some bigger orders coming in within the next 30 days. We could easily be booked for the year by the end of February. Then I'll start doing a bit more research on expansion :)
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(01-27-2019, 09:15 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 08:57 PM)Catch Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 08:27 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Interesting..

As you likely gathered from our exchanges and posts you've read, I occasionally job out machine work. Here in the "Safe and insane" SF Bay Area, Laser cutting has all been outlawed.. That's unless a municipality needs something cut (Soldering is outlawed in some cities), so, water jet cutting is now popular in some shops .

You, might find my workarounds interesting. I use two machinists. One in Sil Valley, owned by a former Metrologist, who does all my prototype work and another who is actually in the City and County of San Francisco where, Dianne Feinstein outlawed all such industry, because she's a bitch and Blue Collar people didn't vote for her, because she's a bitch.

Anyway, my SF machinist is a secret shop. It's located within a industrial kind of company on the outer perimeter of the County. He rents two shop rooms within this company. He has no business phone or does any kind of advertising. The only way you find out about him is word of mouth. My welder gave me his name. The welder is an old friend so, the vetting process was brief. He checks everyone out. He's a one man operation. He keeps funny hours. You kinda make an appointment to see him, then call his cell when at the shop.

He's got a great shop. Some small CNC but, mostly late model manual gear. He does my small finished product runs. He takes business checks but, they are cashed outside SF county. A Completely Stealth operation. He's swamped with work.

Wow, that's interesting? Laser cutting is illegal in SF? Why I wonder? They do take a lot of gasses to operate, but the fumes essentially burn up in the cutting process. I wonder why they are illegal? They are actually very efficient. Maybe they are simply trying to push all manufacturing outside the city limits?

It sounds like your machinist has quite the operation going. I like his style :)  If we were closer, I'd send some stuff to you to forward on to him. Currently, we're using a total of 4 shops for our machining and fabrication. I eventually want to bring it all in house, but it will be awhile. It's frustrating at time since I have been around machine tools all my life and now that I own the company, I'm having a hard time swallowing the purchase price (or even lease prices) of the equipment lol. I did have some stuff water jet early on, but they are actually more expensive to operate than a laser.

I had an offer to move to San Francisco years ago. It was a pretty plush offer to be honest. But this small town country boy just couldn't handle the area when I went out to visit. No offense, but today, I'm damn glad I didn't take the offer :p

Good stuff my friend!

Let me think before posting more on the topic but, as a fellow business guy who has had a high overhead in tech gear..watch your spending. I had a rule.. If a piece of gear wasn't paying for itself, look into ditching it and finding an outside vendor to do that work, and, mark it up if possible. Also, and this was tough at times, if a piece of hardware hasn't been used in two years, sell it.

We have some sharp shavers here on la Fringe!

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