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Texas Man Fights Charge of Warning Drivers About Speed Trap Man held sign reading "Police Ahead."
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Texas Man Fights Charge of Warning Drivers About Speed Trap
Man held sign reading "Police Ahead."
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LIZ FIELDS


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf1-GkS15-c

Quote:A Texas man who was arrested for waving a sign to warn drivers of a lurking traffic cop defended himself in a court by saying his warning was "the same thing as a speed limit sign."

Ron Martin, 33, appeared in court Wednesday to fight a misdemeanor charge of waving a homemade sign.

He was arrested last October after Police Officer Thomas Mronzinski saw him on the median strip of a six-lane highway holding up the sign – he is a sign painter by trade – reading "Police Ahead."

The officer first had his suspicions that Martin was in the area as he sat in his unmarked police car on Eldorado Parkway in Frisco, Texas.

"I observed a couple of cars drive by traveling westbound waving at us," Mronzinski wrote in his arrest report. "Mr. Martin has a history with the Frisco Police Department Officers in holding signs in the center median of traffic stating 'police ahead.'"

A colleague had also radioed earlier that morning to warn Mronzinski that he had seen Martin in the area.

Mronzinski wrote in the report that as he approached, Martin began videotaping the arrest on his phone. After a number of requests to drop the sign, Martin complied and Mronzinski, along with another officer he had radioed for backup, were able to handcuff Martin and take him into custody.

Mronzinski also wrote he had seen Martin conducting similar activities two times that month, and that in one instance Martin "was running back and forth in the center median holding a sign."

Martin told the court that by displaying the warning, ultimately he was trying to do the same job as law enforcement and encourage people (and officers) to driver more slowly.

Texas does not have laws banning people from warning drivers about speed traps. Police instead cited the city's ordinance that states that people holding or wearing signs for advertising must be on private property.

Martin was in the median strip when he was arrested, but has pleaded not guilty to his Class C misdemeanor charge, arguing that he was not advertising anything at the time of arrest.

Frisco Police Department spokesman Sgt. Brad Merritt told ABC News that a Class C misdemeanor is "basically a traffic ticket," but said police would not comment further pending the outcome of the case, which is scheduled for court on Feb. 21.

Police periodically crack down on people warning motorists about speed traps.

In July 2012, Houston police arrested a Natalie Plummer for holding a sign made out of a paper grocery bag that read "Speed Trap!" She was slapped with a misdemeanor for "walking in the roadway where there is a sidewalk present."

Laws concerning methods of alerting motorists to police presence vary across the country. The most popular way - flashing headlights to oncoming traffic - is legal in some states, but not others.

Laws in New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia and Florida allow headlight flashing, while other states, such as Arizona and Alaska, forbid it. In Washington, drivers may be fined $124 for flashing their high beams within 400 feet of another vehicle for any reason.

Last July, a Missouri man sued the city after receiving a ticket for violating a local law against flashing lights on certain kinds of vehicles, while in May 2012, a Florida judge ruled that a man arrested for flashing his headlights was exercising his freedom of speech under the First Amendment.

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-man-figh...boola_feed


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So why bother with the rhetoric about constitutional rights if in truth, Americans have none?

If holding a sign isn't first amendment right to free speech, then Americans should be fined (pay a "royalty") every time they reference their "free country" or "free speech", because both of those things are obviously fictitious made up stories of which the author should be paid.

Maybe if Americans have to pay real money every time they say the word "free", they'll wake up to the ridiculousness of the society they've created.
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American "freedom" is only the right to make as much money as you can without being completely overtaken by the government. Has nothing to do with with any individual behavior. If you think you have rights, watch what happens when you try to act like it.
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Quote:Laws concerning methods of alerting motorists to police presence vary across the country. The most popular way - flashing headlights to oncoming traffic - is legal in some states, but not others.

I did not know this is illegal in some states. I flash my lights for cops ahead or animals near or in the road.
This guy should be let go and reimbursed for an costs associated with this. This gentleman is helping to get people to slow down. It is community service of sorts.
There are way too many BS laws. Land of the free seems like something of the past.
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(02-13-2020, 11:28 AM)Guest Wrote: So why bother with the rhetoric about constitutional rights if in truth, Americans have none?

If holding a sign isn't first amendment right to free speech, then Americans should be fined (pay a "royalty") every time they reference their "free country" or "free speech", because both of those things are obviously fictitious made up stories of which the author should be paid.

Maybe if Americans have to pay real money every time they say the word "free", they'll wake up to the ridiculousness of the society they've created.

Free Speech does not include the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater. Obviously.

So the right to free speech would not be extended to a guy standing outside a bank yelling 'the cops are coming' to warn the bank robbers.

There are differences in this situation obviously , but your simplistic notion that Free Speech means you can say anything you want anywhere you want anytime you want is absurd.
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(02-13-2020, 12:52 PM)Lily Wrote:
Quote:Laws concerning methods of alerting motorists to police presence vary across the country. The most popular way - flashing headlights to oncoming traffic - is legal in some states, but not others.    

I did not know this is illegal in some states. I flash my lights for cops ahead or animals near or in the road.
This guy should be let go and reimbursed for an costs associated with this. This gentleman is helping to get people to slow down. It is community service of sorts.
There are way too many BS laws. Land of the free seems like something of the past.

A long time ago when DUI stops first began, I was coming home from a bar at 2:00 AM driving down a main thoroughfare through a business district on a 4 lane divided road. A guy was standing on the side of the road frantically waving a sign warning that the police roadblock was up the road. I gazed way up the road and saw it, and turn around just far enough from it that they didn't notice me doing so. I took another longer route home.

I never got to thank that fellow for warning me.
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So how is it a crime to go to jail for if there is NO victim???
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(02-13-2020, 01:02 PM)St. Blue Dude Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 11:28 AM)Guest Wrote: So why bother with the rhetoric about constitutional rights if in truth, Americans have none?

If holding a sign isn't first amendment right to free speech, then Americans should be fined (pay a "royalty") every time they reference their "free country" or "free speech", because both of those things are obviously fictitious made up stories of which the author should be paid.

Maybe if Americans have to pay real money every time they say the word "free", they'll wake up to the ridiculousness of the society they've created.

Free Speech does not include the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded  theater.   Obviously.  

So the right to free speech would not be extended to a guy standing outside a bank yelling 'the cops are coming' to warn the bank robbers.    

There are differences in this situation obviously , but your simplistic notion that Free Speech means you can say anything you want anywhere you want anytime you want is absurd.

You live in a ridiculous society that you support with your ideas and money. Your behavior is absurd by definition.
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(02-13-2020, 02:57 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 01:02 PM)St. Blue Dude Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 11:28 AM)Guest Wrote: So why bother with the rhetoric about constitutional rights if in truth, Americans have none?

If holding a sign isn't first amendment right to free speech, then Americans should be fined (pay a "royalty") every time they reference their "free country" or "free speech", because both of those things are obviously fictitious made up stories of which the author should be paid.

Maybe if Americans have to pay real money every time they say the word "free", they'll wake up to the ridiculousness of the society they've created.

Free Speech does not include the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded  theater.   Obviously.  

So the right to free speech would not be extended to a guy standing outside a bank yelling 'the cops are coming' to warn the bank robbers.    

There are differences in this situation obviously , but your simplistic notion that Free Speech means you can say anything you want anywhere you want anytime you want is absurd.

You live in a ridiculous society that you support with your ideas and money. Your behavior is absurd by definition.

Lmao

Tell us about your Canadian Utopia Lmao

Facepalm

Think for yourself

...tell the person next to you ..You Love Them.
Knock and the door will be opened.

Cognitive Dissident...
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(02-13-2020, 02:57 PM)Guest Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 01:02 PM)St. Blue Dude Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 11:28 AM)Guest Wrote: So why bother with the rhetoric about constitutional rights if in truth, Americans have none?

If holding a sign isn't first amendment right to free speech, then Americans should be fined (pay a "royalty") every time they reference their "free country" or "free speech", because both of those things are obviously fictitious made up stories of which the author should be paid.

Maybe if Americans have to pay real money every time they say the word "free", they'll wake up to the ridiculousness of the society they've created.

Free Speech does not include the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded  theater.   Obviously.  

So the right to free speech would not be extended to a guy standing outside a bank yelling 'the cops are coming' to warn the bank robbers.    

There are differences in this situation obviously , but your simplistic notion that Free Speech means you can say anything you want anywhere you want anytime you want is absurd.

You live in a ridiculous society that you support with your ideas and money. Your behavior is absurd by definition.

Since we've established that you don't understand the concept of 'Free Speech', your opinion about 'society' and what is 'absurd' carries little weight.
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