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(07-09-2018, 10:40 PM)Godman Wrote:
(07-09-2018, 06:20 PM)Aquarius Wrote:
(07-09-2018, 04:40 PM)oldcynic Wrote: In the (g)olden days, people put a silver dollar in the raw milk can to preserve it.

I didn't know that !!

However ... It may be impossible to even find a silver dollar (or silver coin of any denomination) anymore.
I used to have some silver dollars.  We would go to Tahoe and use silver dollars for whatever ... I can't remember what all games we played; I mostly played black jack and keno.

That was back in the late 50's when we still had an America.

I really wish I would have been alive during those late 50's so that I could have experienced America.

These comments on the 50’s reminds me of Rense and his love of them,
Including such music gems as this......’



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(07-09-2018, 10:45 PM)oldcynic Wrote: I have one question regarding this intriguing conversation.........So if one's mind is disturbed, it can be easily stolen.  So what if one does NOT have a disturbed mind?

"Course I'm screwed anyhow.  I may even be past the level of disturbed.  Could that make me invulnerable? Scratchinghead

I will venture a guess .. That individual would be well advised to bone up on the "astute observation" they spoke of in the o.p.


Where they can do the most good.
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#33
I was thinking about doing a deprogramming thread but Guitar Doc is already approaching it in his sorely missed, eloquent way.

My signature is of course.. Think for yourself and or cui bono? Who benefits?

Deprogramming requires the individual to perform those actions and ask those questions for and to themselves.

Very BASIC deprogramming.

I'm all for it.

Free your mind and your ass will follow.
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(07-09-2018, 12:04 AM)oldcynic Wrote:
(07-08-2018, 10:08 PM)Guitar Doc Wrote: Sometimes you hear people say”How did it come to this?” and they really don’t know.
I know how it happened.

When you study the human mind in completeness it is obvious. You have to look at all the data. Neuroscience, psychology (all six branches) and basic human behaviours as individuals and groups (sociological).

Shell Shock, Stress and Depression

Depression is the #1 affliction in the USA and indeed the Western World.
Depression is caused by mental perspectives which get taken seriously when normally a person would eliminate them using their logic/judgement centres. In depression a person takes seriously what you would not if you fully bound in logic.

This facet of the human hardware is easily exploited. Drugs can produce this state of mind but so does prolonged stress. Getting people to believe which is not true as true is key to manipulating them into doing what you want without them knowing. In the USA the Media in all it’s forms performs this role.

There is a huge Psych experiment going on in the USA right now and it is all about manipulating vast populations into believing things which are not true as true.

We have seen the precursor experiments conducted in smaller scale populations, the Flat Earth Movement is a good example in my opinion. How you take sane people and get them to adamantly believing in something which is not true using truncated logic. After you have bypassed the logic filters and got someone to believe something which is not true is is 10 times easier to get them to believe something else which is not true even easier if it attaches to the first lie you got them to believe.
US Military Psychologists have known this since before 1960.

That is where the peak as at, Military Psychology. Nothing is illegal when you enter Military Psychology. Orthodox psychology is bound by rules and conventions, not so Military Psychology where you can suggest things are so desperate no ends can be dismissed out of hand. There is no substitute for Victory in Military Psychology. Nothing is barred to achieve the ends.

That is why we are where we are.

Physicists believe our consciousness observing things causes them to be “real”. Mothers also know this as when you infant gets hurt or upset the “cure”  is to get them to focus on something else. It works every time[. Just as the physicists suggest what you are focused on is relevant and “real” in your own mind while everything beyond your focus effectively ceases to exist.

This is how the media is stealing the minds and setting up false preconceptions in those minds who focus and believe what they say.

Breaking the Logic-Gate

Most of us would not believe an obvious lie. However all of us can be made to believe an obvious lie if the right techniques are applied. All you have to do is break down a person’s ability to use personal logic and make them rely on outsider logic which effectively puts them under mind control via an outside source.

Fear is one technique the Media uses, but it is rooted in the primary method of bypassing our internal logic filters. Emotions allow us to break our own programming. This is a trait of human survival over the course of time.

You can’t really fight and beat the bear as a cave man, but breaking logic allows you to try which at the least buys time for the rest of the tribe to escape. If you were rooted in logic you would not even try to fight the bear. As human beings we got here because our ancestral tribe members did fight the bear etc so we could survive.

Emotions are the key to bypassing the internal logic filters. When you see people break the rules and conventions of the societies they live in it is always under strong emotions. Normal people who turn  rabid when observing their soccer team in action. Just one of the more simple examples. Stirring emotions allows the media to lie to you without you dismissing it it as utter fantasy with no real facts backing it.

Cognitive dissonance. A term invented to describe the situation when things don’t make sense mentally which sets off a reaction to seek mental stability leading to people believing things which are not true but they make the situation make sense to them even though it does not really. I observed this in the flat earth operatives. The key people at the top writing the material the plebs quoted always contradicted itself thus putting a person at risk of believing that which is not true to try and make sense of something which simply did not stand up to regular logic.

The Brain wants everything to make sense. It doesn’t like loose ends. It is the reason CT existed in the fist place, people wanted to try and find those loose ends to put their minds to rest.

Another facet of human survival is conformity. It is deemed to be more likely for you to survive if you conform to the general views of the majority of the population you are living among. People will do this to the point of ignoring logic and common sense and often unconsciously.  The Media plays on this unconscious inner working of the human mind by creating what is perceived as the majority view point. The public them obligingly conforms.

Essentially I am saying the Media is stealing your mind and creating a reality which may or may not exist in hard reality by getting you to pay attention to them and take them seriously. All forms of the Media are doing this. All they seek to do is grab your attention.

Soap Operas and the US News Media

People love drama for some reason. Drama is often nothing more than knowing something someone else does not and waiting for them to find out to observe their reaction. Yeah it is kind of filthy, but people love it. Somewhere along the line in the last 4-6 years someone has ended up with a former Soap script writer in the news network team. Perhaps a  son or daughter who has explained to the executives how to capture a large audience and feed the BS all day long they will lap up and tune in for more.

My mother was a long time follower of Days of Our Lives. I have seen it all, and now so are you are on the US news networks (and possibly the same model is being applied to the news networks of the world). They use to same tricks and the news has become Drama and the airing of dirty laundry publicly as possible, even to the point of inventing dirty laundry if required. Who checks...if the dirty laundry is entertaining or titillating enough people will want to believe it.

This is where the expert Industrial Psychologists step in. They know your triggers, they know how to trigger you. They know because they helped create those triggers you just have to respond to in the first place.

We see from the US news Media material The US Military is behind a lot of this as they are always shown the best light and most of he subject material is aimed at getting US citizen to support US military initiatives anywhere in the world...which makes money for the US defence sector who between them own the majority of the US Media.

Fox News says they are against Deep State yet they wilfully advertise for them daily by promoting the US military (the get the kids to join) and highlighting the need for more money to go in to the US military to replace ageing fleets and design newer models. Their so called opposition also runs the same advertorials for the US military.  This is a clue for astute observers. The so called opposite sides of the US media jump to the same masters ultimately.

So why does the Military want to control your mind?

The military mind is the most paranoid of all bar none. Unless you are an ally you are a potential threat and even allies could turn on you (if they found out what you are really up to). If the average person knew what they military was up to from the top down they would band together and put a stop to it. The end of Freedom is what the Military mind is pursuing because that is the only way they can put the paranoia to bed.

In the military mind anyone with Freedom could end up opposing you and overthrowing you. Hence the true enemy of the military is the very thing they claim to be fighting for, Freedom. If you join the military they take your Freedom and supplant it with their rules. If you were under surveillance 100% of the time they know if you broke their rules. That is their objective. Everything else is window dressing to get you to go along with these long term goals which will never be changed.

As long as they have diverted your attention you will never see it let alone think to stop it. Not only are they diverting people’s attention they are seeding their preconceptions to create false societal touch stones which the person thinks they must conform to and makes others conform to. This is weaponized psychology. When you get a large population to do your bidding for you. All you have to do is get them to believe in what you are selling as true.

For those who become programmed end up defending the programming which makes them a mental prisoner because their ego can’t allow therm to admit they were incorrect. The bigger the Ego the harder it is for the victim to admit and self correct the programming which was inflicted in them.

"We see from the US news Media material The US Military is behind a lot of this as they are always shown the best light and most of he subject material is aimed at getting US citizen to support US military initiatives anywhere in the world...which makes money for the US defence sector who between them own the majority of the US Media."

Nicely written and organised.  I enjoyed reading this.  I agree with 99% of what you say.  The M.I.C. has grown like a cancer just as Eisenhower and Kennedy warned.

Just for discussion, would your mindset regarding the military apply to the Allied efforts to defeat the N.W.O. Nazis of WWII ?

I am NOT a proponent of the military by any means, however, a civilisation/society does require protection from invaders.

Correct my if I err in my judgement, but I think President Trump is coddling the military and holding them close to him in preparation for what many suspect is going to go down during his term.

Yes , I am 80 %  In agreement.

We, as our country , need our military  intel  assets to be working for us.


What if things  are more precarious than we  believe ?


We have had 8 years of an anti American  US president.

He did everything he could to destroy our wealth, health  and military.

Bring on the  argument against these facts.
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(07-10-2018, 03:25 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-09-2018, 12:04 AM)oldcynic Wrote:
(07-08-2018, 10:08 PM)Guitar Doc Wrote: Sometimes you hear people say”How did it come to this?” and they really don’t know.
I know how it happened.

When you study the human mind in completeness it is obvious. You have to look at all the data. Neuroscience, psychology (all six branches) and basic human behaviours as individuals and groups (sociological).

Shell Shock, Stress and Depression

Depression is the #1 affliction in the USA and indeed the Western World.
Depression is caused by mental perspectives which get taken seriously when normally a person would eliminate them using their logic/judgement centres. In depression a person takes seriously what you would not if you fully bound in logic.

This facet of the human hardware is easily exploited. Drugs can produce this state of mind but so does prolonged stress. Getting people to believe which is not true as true is key to manipulating them into doing what you want without them knowing. In the USA the Media in all it’s forms performs this role.

There is a huge Psych experiment going on in the USA right now and it is all about manipulating vast populations into believing things which are not true as true.

We have seen the precursor experiments conducted in smaller scale populations, the Flat Earth Movement is a good example in my opinion. How you take sane people and get them to adamantly believing in something which is not true using truncated logic. After you have bypassed the logic filters and got someone to believe something which is not true is is 10 times easier to get them to believe something else which is not true even easier if it attaches to the first lie you got them to believe.
US Military Psychologists have known this since before 1960.

That is where the peak as at, Military Psychology. Nothing is illegal when you enter Military Psychology. Orthodox psychology is bound by rules and conventions, not so Military Psychology where you can suggest things are so desperate no ends can be dismissed out of hand. There is no substitute for Victory in Military Psychology. Nothing is barred to achieve the ends.

That is why we are where we are.

Physicists believe our consciousness observing things causes them to be “real”. Mothers also know this as when you infant gets hurt or upset the “cure”  is to get them to focus on something else. It works every time[. Just as the physicists suggest what you are focused on is relevant and “real” in your own mind while everything beyond your focus effectively ceases to exist.

This is how the media is stealing the minds and setting up false preconceptions in those minds who focus and believe what they say.

Breaking the Logic-Gate

Most of us would not believe an obvious lie. However all of us can be made to believe an obvious lie if the right techniques are applied. All you have to do is break down a person’s ability to use personal logic and make them rely on outsider logic which effectively puts them under mind control via an outside source.

Fear is one technique the Media uses, but it is rooted in the primary method of bypassing our internal logic filters. Emotions allow us to break our own programming. This is a trait of human survival over the course of time.

You can’t really fight and beat the bear as a cave man, but breaking logic allows you to try which at the least buys time for the rest of the tribe to escape. If you were rooted in logic you would not even try to fight the bear. As human beings we got here because our ancestral tribe members did fight the bear etc so we could survive.

Emotions are the key to bypassing the internal logic filters. When you see people break the rules and conventions of the societies they live in it is always under strong emotions. Normal people who turn  rabid when observing their soccer team in action. Just one of the more simple examples. Stirring emotions allows the media to lie to you without you dismissing it it as utter fantasy with no real facts backing it.

Cognitive dissonance. A term invented to describe the situation when things don’t make sense mentally which sets off a reaction to seek mental stability leading to people believing things which are not true but they make the situation make sense to them even though it does not really. I observed this in the flat earth operatives. The key people at the top writing the material the plebs quoted always contradicted itself thus putting a person at risk of believing that which is not true to try and make sense of something which simply did not stand up to regular logic.

The Brain wants everything to make sense. It doesn’t like loose ends. It is the reason CT existed in the fist place, people wanted to try and find those loose ends to put their minds to rest.

Another facet of human survival is conformity. It is deemed to be more likely for you to survive if you conform to the general views of the majority of the population you are living among. People will do this to the point of ignoring logic and common sense and often unconsciously.  The Media plays on this unconscious inner working of the human mind by creating what is perceived as the majority view point. The public them obligingly conforms.

Essentially I am saying the Media is stealing your mind and creating a reality which may or may not exist in hard reality by getting you to pay attention to them and take them seriously. All forms of the Media are doing this. All they seek to do is grab your attention.

Soap Operas and the US News Media

People love drama for some reason. Drama is often nothing more than knowing something someone else does not and waiting for them to find out to observe their reaction. Yeah it is kind of filthy, but people love it. Somewhere along the line in the last 4-6 years someone has ended up with a former Soap script writer in the news network team. Perhaps a  son or daughter who has explained to the executives how to capture a large audience and feed the BS all day long they will lap up and tune in for more.

My mother was a long time follower of Days of Our Lives. I have seen it all, and now so are you are on the US news networks (and possibly the same model is being applied to the news networks of the world). They use to same tricks and the news has become Drama and the airing of dirty laundry publicly as possible, even to the point of inventing dirty laundry if required. Who checks...if the dirty laundry is entertaining or titillating enough people will want to believe it.

This is where the expert Industrial Psychologists step in. They know your triggers, they know how to trigger you. They know because they helped create those triggers you just have to respond to in the first place.

We see from the US news Media material The US Military is behind a lot of this as they are always shown the best light and most of he subject material is aimed at getting US citizen to support US military initiatives anywhere in the world...which makes money for the US defence sector who between them own the majority of the US Media.

Fox News says they are against Deep State yet they wilfully advertise for them daily by promoting the US military (the get the kids to join) and highlighting the need for more money to go in to the US military to replace ageing fleets and design newer models. Their so called opposition also runs the same advertorials for the US military.  This is a clue for astute observers. The so called opposite sides of the US media jump to the same masters ultimately.

So why does the Military want to control your mind?

The military mind is the most paranoid of all bar none. Unless you are an ally you are a potential threat and even allies could turn on you (if they found out what you are really up to). If the average person knew what they military was up to from the top down they would band together and put a stop to it. The end of Freedom is what the Military mind is pursuing because that is the only way they can put the paranoia to bed.

In the military mind anyone with Freedom could end up opposing you and overthrowing you. Hence the true enemy of the military is the very thing they claim to be fighting for, Freedom. If you join the military they take your Freedom and supplant it with their rules. If you were under surveillance 100% of the time they know if you broke their rules. That is their objective. Everything else is window dressing to get you to go along with these long term goals which will never be changed.

As long as they have diverted your attention you will never see it let alone think to stop it. Not only are they diverting people’s attention they are seeding their preconceptions to create false societal touch stones which the person thinks they must conform to and makes others conform to. This is weaponized psychology. When you get a large population to do your bidding for you. All you have to do is get them to believe in what you are selling as true.

For those who become programmed end up defending the programming which makes them a mental prisoner because their ego can’t allow therm to admit they were incorrect. The bigger the Ego the harder it is for the victim to admit and self correct the programming which was inflicted in them.

"We see from the US news Media material The US Military is behind a lot of this as they are always shown the best light and most of he subject material is aimed at getting US citizen to support US military initiatives anywhere in the world...which makes money for the US defence sector who between them own the majority of the US Media."

Nicely written and organised.  I enjoyed reading this.  I agree with 99% of what you say.  The M.I.C. has grown like a cancer just as Eisenhower and Kennedy warned.

Just for discussion, would your mindset regarding the military apply to the Allied efforts to defeat the N.W.O. Nazis of WWII ?

I am NOT a proponent of the military by any means, however, a civilisation/society does require protection from invaders.

Correct my if I err in my judgement, but I think President Trump is coddling the military and holding them close to him in preparation for what many suspect is going to go down during his term.

Yes , I am 80 %  In agreement.

We, as our country , need our military  intel  assets to be working for us.


What if things  are more precarious than we  believe ?


We have had 8 years of an anti American  US president.

He did everything he could to destroy our wealth, health  and military.

Bring on the  argument against these facts.

Wondering what any of that has to do with this topic?

Are you sure you are on the right thread?

Did you read the op?

Are you dunk?
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(07-10-2018, 03:36 AM)Frigg Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:25 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-09-2018, 12:04 AM)oldcynic Wrote: "We see from the US news Media material The US Military is behind a lot of this as they are always shown the best light and most of he subject material is aimed at getting US citizen to support US military initiatives anywhere in the world...which makes money for the US defence sector who between them own the majority of the US Media."

Nicely written and organised.  I enjoyed reading this.  I agree with 99% of what you say.  The M.I.C. has grown like a cancer just as Eisenhower and Kennedy warned.

Just for discussion, would your mindset regarding the military apply to the Allied efforts to defeat the N.W.O. Nazis of WWII ?

I am NOT a proponent of the military by any means, however, a civilisation/society does require protection from invaders.

Correct my if I err in my judgement, but I think President Trump is coddling the military and holding them close to him in preparation for what many suspect is going to go down during his term.

Yes , I am 80 %  In agreement.

We, as our country , need our military  intel  assets to be working for us.


What if things  are more precarious than we  believe ?


We have had 8 years of an anti American  US president.

He did everything he could to destroy our wealth, health  and military.

Bring on the  argument against these facts.

Wondering what any of that has to do with this topic?

Are you sure you are on the right thread?

Did you read the op?

Are you dunk?

Guilty on 3 counts....

late.
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(07-10-2018, 03:44 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:36 AM)Frigg Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:25 AM)Guest Wrote: Yes , I am 80 %  In agreement.

We, as our country , need our military  intel  assets to be working for us.


What if things  are more precarious than we  believe ?


We have had 8 years of an anti American  US president.

He did everything he could to destroy our wealth, health  and military.

Bring on the  argument against these facts.

Wondering what any of that has to do with this topic?

Are you sure you are on the right thread?

Did you read the op?

Are you dunk?

Guilty on 3 counts....

late.

Lmao no sweat...
In times of universal Idiocy... Critical thought becomes a revolutionary act! CUI BONO?
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(07-10-2018, 03:44 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:36 AM)Frigg Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:25 AM)Guest Wrote: Yes , I am 80 %  In agreement.

We, as our country , need our military  intel  assets to be working for us.


What if things  are more precarious than we  believe ?


We have had 8 years of an anti American  US president.

He did everything he could to destroy our wealth, health  and military.

Bring on the  argument against these facts.

Wondering what any of that has to do with this topic?

Are you sure you are on the right thread?

Did you read the op?

Are you dunk?

Guilty on 3 counts....

late.

Thanks frigg. More cowbell !

What is your take ?

And yes I am dunk....
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(07-10-2018, 03:51 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:44 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:36 AM)Frigg Wrote: Wondering what any of that has to do with this topic?

Are you sure you are on the right thread?

Did you read the op?

Are you dunk?

Guilty on 3 counts....

late.

Thanks frigg. More cowbell !

What  is your take  ?

And yes I am dunk....

Hory shit, i think i was posting in the wrong thread !

But I am still dunk .....
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(07-10-2018, 03:51 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:44 AM)Guest Wrote:
(07-10-2018, 03:36 AM)Frigg Wrote: Wondering what any of that has to do with this topic?

Are you sure you are on the right thread?

Did you read the op?

Are you dunk?

Guilty on 3 counts....

late.

Thanks frigg. More cowbell !

What  is your take  ?

And yes I am dunk....

My take is that the state of the art in mind control is reaching the point of no return if a whole lot more people don't start very deeply re-examining their entire paradigms.

They are in a trance.


It's wake up time.
In times of universal Idiocy... Critical thought becomes a revolutionary act! CUI BONO?
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