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Rep. Diane Black Introduces a Bill Making First-Time Illegal Border Crossing a Felony
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(07-11-2018, 01:57 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabr...wsletterad=

From the article:

Rep. Diane Black (R-TN) introduced a bill Tuesday which would make a first-time illegal border crossing a felony rather than a misdemeanor.

First, the bill would make first-time illegal border crossings a felony with a prison sentence of one year and one day. First-time illegal border crossings are currently misdemeanors with a prison sentence of six months or less.

“Now the important thing about that,” Black explained, “is that if they were to try to come back to the United States at another point in time through a legal means, they would either not be accepted or it would be very difficult for them to come into the United States so it’s a real deterrent.”

She said that border patrol agents in Brownsville, Texas told her some problems with the current practice of making the first-time illegal border crossing a misdemeanor and repeat crossings after deportation a felony.

“I had the border patrol agents tell me that people had come over the border one day and they’ll turn around and send them back and the next day they’ll come with a new name and they know it’s the same person,” she said.

Another important feature of Black’s bill is that it mandates e-verify for employers.

Additionally, Black’s bill would redirect funding from sanctuary cities to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).


Immigration is an important issue for Black, who is running for governor of Tennessee. Earlier this year, she introduced legislation to crowdfund the border wall.
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My opinion:

This woman is awesome!  TN will be fortunate to have her as their governor. I hope she wins.

The only thing I'd add is that if we are going to continue financially supporting criminal illegals, we need to start sending the countries they hail from the bill...or deduct it from their foreign aid funding. Maybe that will light a fire under countries that don't care about their own citizens to start caring and start revitalizing their own nations.

Awesome!
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(07-11-2018, 04:52 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote: Okay...what is your proposal and have you sent it in to your rep and senator?

I think what the Lady is trying to do is put the fear of USA on the illegals who plan on coming here via the back door and stealing from us while expecting us to accept it.

Fair enough. I haven't sent a proposal to my reps, but I'll spell it out here:

1)Decriminalize drugs. All drugs. Portugal method to deal with addiction and addicts. That defunds the cartels.

2)Renegotiate NAFTA. Our big agriculture dumped cheap beans, rice, and corn on their markets which ruined a lot of their farms, displacing people.

3)Deal with the aftermath of our cold war support for Central American Despots and right wing death squads.

4)Build the wall if you want to, but they will dig tunnels and build boats and come in through Canada.

Chuckle

5)Hire more judges and give them speedy hearings when we catch them.

It's not going to solve the problem overnight.

But tough on crime laws haven't worked at all.

If you want a really good example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Code

The Bloody Code in England made petty offences punishable by death.

Didn't reduce crime one bit.
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CoreCivic (Formerly Corrections Corps of America gave her $11,000 in corporate donations plus $5000 in individual contributions.)

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-c...100&type=I

It's her number 10 donor.

Nashville-based prison operator CoreCivic: Facilities don't house separated immigrant children

Nashville-based CoreCivic, the nation's largest owner and operator of private prisons — including eight immigration detention centers — on Wednesday issued a statement saying none of the company's facilities house children who are not under the supervision of a parent.

The publicly-traded company's statement comes after weeks of controversy over the separation of immigrant families illegally crossing the nation's southern border, and less than two hours before the Trump Administration announced plans to end the practice.

More than 2,000 children have been detained separately from their parents under Trump's implementation of a zero tolerance policy that refers all border crossings for federal criminal prosecution.

Fact check: What's really going on with immigrant children being detained at the border?

"CoreCivic cares deeply about every person in our care," a statement posted on the company's website said. "None of our facilities provides housing for children who aren’t under the supervision of a parent."...

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/20...717900002/

$16,000 to fill up 8 detention centers is great return on investment!
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Laws with teeth are the only ones that will ever work.

A felony shoots a hole in their future plans or repeat offenses.


A great idea imho.

Catch and deport.. If they come back... Jail and deport.

Their kids too.

It is the illegals who need to change their ideas.. This would help in their future planning as well.

What we are doing is a catastrophe.

Utopian wishes be damned... Where will the secret dollars for secret wars and arms come from?

I like your idea but it is naive. . We have an actual problem here and now.

Something needs to be put in action and there is too much illegally made money on both sides to simply end the drug economy.

The time for nice sounding but impossible common sense wishing is over.

Time to get off our high horses and get our hands dirty or we will never dig our collective asses out of the pit.

I think it makes people feel superior to pontificate high falluting "solutions".... In the meantime illegals swarm over borders and steal rape and pillage while everyone sits on their thumbs and squabbles.

I'm all for considering all options and when and if legalizing drugs can happen we deal with that issue when it happens.... Just like we should deal with the illegal invaders now... While it is happening.


Harsh laws can be peeled back as the problem is fixed.
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(07-11-2018, 05:38 PM)Frigg Wrote: Laws with teeth are the only ones that will ever work.

A felony shoots a hole in their future plans or repeat offenses.


A great idea imho.

Catch and deport.. If they come back... Jail and deport.

Their kids too.

It is the illegals who need to change their ideas.. This would help in their future planning as well.

What we are doing is a catastrophe.

Utopian wishes be damned... Where will the secret dollars for secret wars and arms come from?

I like your idea but it is naive. . We have an actual problem here and now.

Something needs to be put in action and there is too much illegally made money on both sides to simply end the drug economy.

The time for nice sounding but impossible common sense wishing is over.

Time to get off our high horses and get our hands dirty or we will never dig our collective asses out of the pit.

I think it makes people feel superior to pontificate high falluting "solutions".... In the meantime illegals swarm over borders and steal rape and pillage while everyone sits on their thumbs and squabbles.

I'm all for considering all options and when and if legalizing drugs can happen we deal with that issue when it happens.... Just like we should deal with the illegal invaders now... While it is happening.


Harsh laws can be peeled back as the problem is fixed.

It won't fix it.

That's my position.

All it does is make money for private prisons.

Catch and deport fast is fine, but you have to hire more judges so they can have speedy hearings.

Some of them are refugees, not that hard to figure out which ones.

But there's no profit in speedy trials.

Our own disgraceful PPP prison downtown is making money off this.

They have to.

When you build a huge prison you have to fill it up.

Oklahoma Department of Corrections presents 2019 budget request, includes 2 new prisons

OKLAHOMA CITY - The Oklahoma Department of Corrections has requested $1.53 billion in state funding for the 2019 fiscal year.

If fully granted, the budget would include more than $107 million in repairs to its facilities and $10 million in employee raises across the board.

"37 percent of our agency alone qualifies for food stamps. What kind of a signal is that to the rest of the world? What are we trying to demonstrate?" said ODOC Director Joe Allbaugh.

Allbaugh said many employees have not received raises in 12 years. It's a reality Jerold Braggs, Jr. understands. He serves as a warden at the Lexington Assessment and Reception Center (LARC).

"When an officer signs on to work here and we got great benefits but the private sector offers them 3 or $4 more and they have a family to feed, that’s a consideration that they have to take in when they’re making a decision whether to stay or go," Braggs told News 4.

The facility houses about 1,400 inmates with only about 112 correctional officers. Braggs said they're not paid enough for the draining work they do.

"We could go from getting a phone call that a water tower went down. From there, an inmate could attempt suicide or we have an emergency transport," he said. "Officers, they deal with a lot of inmates during their 12-hour shifts then they have to have families that they go home to. Sometimes, we expect or inquire they have to work overtime and it takes away from their family."

The requested budget also includes $813 million for two new medium security prisons, support to expand re-entry, along with mental health and substance abuse programs. Officials said the new prisons are necessary to address overcrowding.

https://kfor.com/2018/01/16/http-kfor-co...w-prisons/

I'm not being a bleeding heart.

That's not working^^^^^
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Felons require prisons. It's a reality. No getting around it.

Housing the illegal alien felons in barracks inside of concertina wire fences will cause liberals to come unglued. Housing their children or the stolen children they are trafficking in similar barracks without the razor wire until acceptably vetted foster care will also cause liberals to have crying fits in the streets.

There is no way to make a liberal like any solution to illegal border crossers other that open borders. So I say go for the toughest laws possible short of shooting them on sight. (The illegals, not the liberals.)

I recently had a debate with a cousin who just happens to be a attorney. Her argument against separating the children was, "it's a misdemeanor, so separating the children is cruel."

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(07-11-2018, 06:12 PM)SlowLoris Wrote: Felons require prisons. It's a reality. No getting around it.

Housing the illegal alien felons in barracks inside of concertina wire fences will cause liberals to come unglued. Housing their children or the stolen children they are trafficking in similar barracks without the razor wire until acceptably vetted foster care will also cause liberals to have crying fits in the streets.

There is no way to make a liberal like any solution to illegal border crossers other that open borders. So I say go for the toughest laws possible short of shooting them on sight. (The illegals, not the liberals.)

I recently had a debate with a cousin who just happens to be a attorney. Her argument against separating the children was, "it's a misdemeanor, so separating the children is cruel."

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That argument your cousin used...is the same one I am hearing here in Texas from the left.

I say we make it a felony.
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(07-11-2018, 04:23 PM)Sassy Fringette Wrote:
(07-11-2018, 03:07 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote:
(07-11-2018, 02:59 PM)Luvapottamus Wrote: Locking people up for a year.

I searched to see if she had political donations from the private prison industry; didn't find any.

But it's a waste of money.

We already support them for 1-6 months. And the little shits just come back the very next day...because there are no major consequences.

What she is proposing is a determent to their 'fk America they don't do anything but deport us anyway' mindset.  We are fingerprinting and DNA storing their happy asses so that if they attempt to come back illegally, or by legal means, their previous action WILL adversely effect their immigration.  I know we have enough criminals.  Which is why I suggested that we bill their countries of origin and reduce their countries foreign relief funding.  Our tax payers need the money for our own citizens.  I emailed that to her office.

I've lived in AZ, CA and now I'm in TX...border states have been hit the hardest for 40+ years.  
I'm pretty tired of it.  

Anyway, she is putting forth an effort to do something to fix this...I believe that is what we all want from our reps...right?

Some we support for their lifetime.

... And their children and grandchildren, and their brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews, and ...

CgTFBpM
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(07-11-2018, 07:07 PM)Deplorably Nameless Wrote:
(07-11-2018, 06:12 PM)SlowLoris Wrote: Felons require prisons. It's a reality. No getting around it.

Housing the illegal alien felons in barracks inside of concertina wire fences will cause liberals to come unglued. Housing their children or the stolen children they are trafficking in similar barracks without the razor wire until acceptably vetted foster care will also cause liberals to have crying fits in the streets.

There is no way to make a liberal like any solution to illegal border crossers other that open borders. So I say go for the toughest laws possible short of shooting them on sight. (The illegals, not the liberals.)

I recently had a debate with a cousin who just happens to be a attorney. Her argument against separating the children was, "it's a misdemeanor, so separating the children is cruel."

.

That argument your cousin used...is the same one I am hearing here in Texas from the left.

I say we make it a felony.

It would be the most prudent course of action... A good START
In times of universal Idiocy... Critical thought becomes a revolutionary act! CUI BONO?
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It has been my understanding that committing a felony is exactly that. It has no bearing on whether this is the first time or otherwise. Its a criminal act; its a felony. So, enforce the law!

Rockon
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