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Justin Trudeau CRISIS: Canada Prime Minister told to RESIGN as scandal engulfs party
EMBATTLED Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau today faced mounting pressure from the leader of the opposition party to step down amid accusations of his involvement in a political scandal.

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(02-28-2019, 06:46 AM)Billy Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 04:03 AM)Ishtahota Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 03:58 AM)Winter Steelheader Wrote: I just said this in the other thread:

Next step should be Trump inviting Kim to the White House. That would make history and be a magnificent step forward

Problem is Un doesn’t have a plane to get here.

Im sure AF1 could be utilized here. And it would also act as another sweetener for KGU.

Reminder, 'AF1' is the designation for any aircraft that is occupied by the U.S. President.

Using a U.S. aircraft to ferry the leader of NK would be a serious loss of face in Asian eyes. Until such time Fattie gets over his fear of flying or has his own #1 aircraft, it's a safe bet any treaty would be signed in Asia, prolly more likely on the NK/SK DMZ.
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(02-28-2019, 06:35 AM)DaJavoo Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 05:42 AM)Dr Evil Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 04:48 AM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote: Exactly. The state dinner that he was given at the Forbidden City had much more significance than many realize. That was the highest form of tribute and respect that China could bestow. No other President -- including Richard "I discoverd China" Nixon -- has been given this kind of honor by the Chinese.

Unfortunately the Dragon has reared its head and kicked aside the Panda.

Trump really needed a victory at this time, because a lot of sheeple who don't have the first clue about what's happening will take this as a sign of defeat and turn toward the DS disinformation impeachment treason, which will commence just as he starts his 2020 campaign.

So did China need the sanctions lifted or at least loosened, because the one party system is under threat because as soon as the materialistic high IQ Chinese people stop getting their customary 10% GDP PA year on year growth they've become accustomed to, they will turn to the one party and ask: WTF? And that's the biggest threat to the Chinese Commie Party in its entire history.

It could have been a win-win, but the Chinese as it currently appears, have thrown in their lot with the Dems. So what have they been promised? Clearly, enough to make them feel they can ride out the Trump sanctions long enough to survive till their secret US allies regain power and normal service resumes, vis-a-vis hollowing out the US for China's benefit, courtesy of bought and paid-for US traitor politicians.

Trump will now have to show whether he really is a stable genius. Because he will now have to use every weapon at his disposal to win this fight, with 90% of his army asleep in their tents and his remaining 10% (us) facing down not just the US branch of DS but the Comintern as well.

A lot of you people don't see Putin as a US ally but I've studied Russia for 30 years and I do. If I was Putin, notwithstanding Russia has close strategic ties to China, I'd put those on the line and side with his fellow Caucasians, and I'd be doing that in a phone call to Trump right now, as he flies back to D.C.

Trump needs a powerful friend right here, right now. All the Western friends are led by traitors. Putin + Trump evens the odds against the rest of the world. Trump standing alone with the Q Army isn't enough.

And I don't mean overt allies, I mean covert, Tsn Tzu style.

I disagree.

Korea:

As PDJT stated better the right deal than a quick deal.  (See: Reagan/Reykjavik)

It is all about the WIN-win.  Kim doesn't need the optics of quick capitulation.  Also, there are nuke options/capabilities being discussed of which the wider world is ignorant.  (Listen to the full press conference.)

China:  

The touchiest spot for most entities is the financial.  Tariffs are hurting the hell out of China, whose economy has been a balloon riding on the edge of a razor blade.  I suspect there will be an agreement sooner rather than later on this to the mutual benefit of BOTH parties ~ hell, PDJT is ALREADY selling American rice to China.

It is never to the interests of either party in negotiations to destroy the other.  There is ALWAYS an area where both can benefit without detriment to the other.

Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting 45 was wrong to walkaway. I was touching on the fact that Kim's position which forced his hand on doing this opens the possibility there is an alliance between his domestic DS enemies and China, that this is dangerous and that Trump needs friends.

And there aren't any apparent suitably powerful friends in the Western or Eastern orbits but Russia is the only possible alternative and in that light, Russia is viable.
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(02-28-2019, 07:09 AM)Dr Evil Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 06:35 AM)DaJavoo Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 05:42 AM)Dr Evil Wrote: Unfortunately the Dragon has reared its head and kicked aside the Panda.

Trump really needed a victory at this time, because a lot of sheeple who don't have the first clue about what's happening will take this as a sign of defeat and turn toward the DS disinformation impeachment treason, which will commence just as he starts his 2020 campaign.

So did China need the sanctions lifted or at least loosened, because the one party system is under threat because as soon as the materialistic high IQ Chinese people stop getting their customary 10% GDP PA year on year growth they've become accustomed to, they will turn to the one party and ask: WTF? And that's the biggest threat to the Chinese Commie Party in its entire history.

It could have been a win-win, but the Chinese as it currently appears, have thrown in their lot with the Dems. So what have they been promised? Clearly, enough to make them feel they can ride out the Trump sanctions long enough to survive till their secret US allies regain power and normal service resumes, vis-a-vis hollowing out the US for China's benefit, courtesy of bought and paid-for US traitor politicians.

Trump will now have to show whether he really is a stable genius. Because he will now have to use every weapon at his disposal to win this fight, with 90% of his army asleep in their tents and his remaining 10% (us) facing down not just the US branch of DS but the Comintern as well.

A lot of you people don't see Putin as a US ally but I've studied Russia for 30 years and I do. If I was Putin, notwithstanding Russia has close strategic ties to China, I'd put those on the line and side with his fellow Caucasians, and I'd be doing that in a phone call to Trump right now, as he flies back to D.C.

Trump needs a powerful friend right here, right now. All the Western friends are led by traitors. Putin + Trump evens the odds against the rest of the world. Trump standing alone with the Q Army isn't enough.

And I don't mean overt allies, I mean covert, Tsn Tzu style.

I disagree.

Korea:

As PDJT stated better the right deal than a quick deal.  (See: Reagan/Reykjavik)

It is all about the WIN-win.  Kim doesn't need the optics of quick capitulation.  Also, there are nuke options/capabilities being discussed of which the wider world is ignorant.  (Listen to the full press conference.)

China:  

The touchiest spot for most entities is the financial.  Tariffs are hurting the hell out of China, whose economy has been a balloon riding on the edge of a razor blade.  I suspect there will be an agreement sooner rather than later on this to the mutual benefit of BOTH parties ~ hell, PDJT is ALREADY selling American rice to China.

It is never to the interests of either party in negotiations to destroy the other.  There is ALWAYS an area where both can benefit without detriment to the other.

Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting 45 was wrong to walkaway. I was touching on the fact that Kim's position which forced his hand on doing this opens the possibility there is an alliance between his domestic DS enemies and China, that this is dangerous and that Trump needs friends.

And there aren't any apparent suitably powerful friends in the Western or Eastern orbits but Russia is the only possible alternative and in that light, Russia is viable.

I do agree on that. Putin hates the DS as much as PDJT.

I don't think China gives a rat's ass ~ only about wtf they can get through those they've bought, e.g., DiFi of recent example, and prolly many others. They play the LOOOONG game and don't play "politics" at home, nor abroad ~ it's always about who is currently controlling the flow of marbles, and what they need to do to get the upper hand.

PDJT has presented them with a much worthier opponent than they've ever faced and they are not stupid nor drunk with the desire for 'quick conquest' ~ that's not the long game.

The Russo/China axis is a strange one ~ each is like the dog that caught the car. Their shared border makes things complicated. They cannot ignore each other and neither can they let the other get cozier. 1dunno1
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(02-28-2019, 07:31 AM)DaJavoo Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 07:09 AM)Dr Evil Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 06:35 AM)DaJavoo Wrote: I disagree.

Korea:

As PDJT stated better the right deal than a quick deal.  (See: Reagan/Reykjavik)

It is all about the WIN-win.  Kim doesn't need the optics of quick capitulation.  Also, there are nuke options/capabilities being discussed of which the wider world is ignorant.  (Listen to the full press conference.)

China:  

The touchiest spot for most entities is the financial.  Tariffs are hurting the hell out of China, whose economy has been a balloon riding on the edge of a razor blade.  I suspect there will be an agreement sooner rather than later on this to the mutual benefit of BOTH parties ~ hell, PDJT is ALREADY selling American rice to China.

It is never to the interests of either party in negotiations to destroy the other.  There is ALWAYS an area where both can benefit without detriment to the other.

Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting 45 was wrong to walkaway. I was touching on the fact that Kim's position which forced his hand on doing this opens the possibility there is an alliance between his domestic DS enemies and China, that this is dangerous and that Trump needs friends.

And there aren't any apparent suitably powerful friends in the Western or Eastern orbits but Russia is the only possible alternative and in that light, Russia is viable.

I do agree on that.  Putin hates the DS as much as PDJT.

I don't think China gives a rat's ass ~ only about wtf they can get through those they've bought, e.g., DiFi of recent example, and prolly many others. They play the LOOOONG game and don't play "politics" at home, nor abroad ~ it's always about who is currently controlling the flow of marbles, and what they need to do to get the upper hand.

PDJT has presented them with a much worthier opponent than they've ever faced and they are not stupid nor drunk with the desire for 'quick conquest' ~ that's not the long game.  

The Russo/China axis is a strange one ~ each is like the dog that caught the car.  Their shared border makes things complicated.  They cannot ignore each other and neither can they let the other get cozier.   1dunno1

Russia is ancient, the US isn't. So is China, so is India, so is Europe, so is Iran. That's the lens to interpret Sino-Russian relations. The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) is the pre-Trump answer to DS. It's still their answer unless and until Trump changes the dynamics.

China is definitely the most powerful nation in the world this century. The question is, how does the West make sure it's not crushed. Russia's answer to that is her BRICS strategy, which is very similar to Tsn Tzu.

Russia is the bridge between Europe and Asia. Geographically, historically and geopolitically.

The role the US gets to play in Europe will be determined by how the US relates in future to both Russia and Germany. Germany is important because if you have Germany you have Western Europe as well.

At this point Trump has clearly decided to play wedge politics, trying to drive a wedge between Russia and Germany aka Western Europe. I'm not sure that's the wisest long-term strategy between those two European powers, given the real answer to crush-avoidance is an alliance between Germany, Western Europe, Russia and the US vs China and its allies.
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(02-28-2019, 08:11 AM)Dr Evil Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 07:31 AM)DaJavoo Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 07:09 AM)Dr Evil Wrote: Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting 45 was wrong to walkaway. I was touching on the fact that Kim's position which forced his hand on doing this opens the possibility there is an alliance between his domestic DS enemies and China, that this is dangerous and that Trump needs friends.

And there aren't any apparent suitably powerful friends in the Western or Eastern orbits but Russia is the only possible alternative and in that light, Russia is viable.

I do agree on that.  Putin hates the DS as much as PDJT.

I don't think China gives a rat's ass ~ only about wtf they can get through those they've bought, e.g., DiFi of recent example, and prolly many others. They play the LOOOONG game and don't play "politics" at home, nor abroad ~ it's always about who is currently controlling the flow of marbles, and what they need to do to get the upper hand.

PDJT has presented them with a much worthier opponent than they've ever faced and they are not stupid nor drunk with the desire for 'quick conquest' ~ that's not the long game.  

The Russo/China axis is a strange one ~ each is like the dog that caught the car.  Their shared border makes things complicated.  They cannot ignore each other and neither can they let the other get cozier.   1dunno1

Russia is ancient, the US isn't. So is China, so is India, so is Europe, so is Iran. That's the lens to interpret Sino-Russian relations. The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) is the pre-Trump answer to DS. It's still their answer unless and until Trump changes the dynamics.

China is definitely the most powerful nation in the world this century. The question is, how does the West make sure it's not crushed. Russia's answer to that is her BRICS strategy, which is very similar to Tsn Tzu.

Russia is the bridge between Europe and Asia. Geographically, historically and geopolitically.

The role the US gets to play in Europe will be determined by how the US relates in future to both Russia and Germany. Germany is important because if you have Germany you have Western Europe as well.

At this point Trump has clearly decided to play wedge politics, trying to drive a wedge between Russia and Germany aka Western Europe. I'm not sure that's the wisest long-term strategy between those two European powers, given the real answer to crush-avoidance is an alliance between Germany, Western Europe, Russia and the US vs China and its allies.

imo, the game has changed with the outing and continuing disabling of the DS. The EU is held together by the slimmest of threads these days and Germany doesn't have the power as many like to think. There is currently, an under-swelling support for nationalist movements.

The U.S., as long as it has the military it has and occupies the largest market and strongest economy in the world will ALWAYS have a major role to exercise anywhere on the planet; if our leaders realize it's to the country's benefit to TAKE a role.

Don't forget the 'Stans are also the land bridge between Asia/Europe. The Indians/Pakis are making that painfully obvious.
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(02-28-2019, 08:29 AM)DaJavoo Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 08:11 AM)Dr Evil Wrote:
(02-28-2019, 07:31 AM)DaJavoo Wrote: I do agree on that.  Putin hates the DS as much as PDJT.

I don't think China gives a rat's ass ~ only about wtf they can get through those they've bought, e.g., DiFi of recent example, and prolly many others. They play the LOOOONG game and don't play "politics" at home, nor abroad ~ it's always about who is currently controlling the flow of marbles, and what they need to do to get the upper hand.

PDJT has presented them with a much worthier opponent than they've ever faced and they are not stupid nor drunk with the desire for 'quick conquest' ~ that's not the long game.  

The Russo/China axis is a strange one ~ each is like the dog that caught the car.  Their shared border makes things complicated.  They cannot ignore each other and neither can they let the other get cozier.   1dunno1

Russia is ancient, the US isn't. So is China, so is India, so is Europe, so is Iran. That's the lens to interpret Sino-Russian relations. The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) is the pre-Trump answer to DS. It's still their answer unless and until Trump changes the dynamics.

China is definitely the most powerful nation in the world this century. The question is, how does the West make sure it's not crushed. Russia's answer to that is her BRICS strategy, which is very similar to Tsn Tzu.

Russia is the bridge between Europe and Asia. Geographically, historically and geopolitically.

The role the US gets to play in Europe will be determined by how the US relates in future to both Russia and Germany. Germany is important because if you have Germany you have Western Europe as well.

At this point Trump has clearly decided to play wedge politics, trying to drive a wedge between Russia and Germany aka Western Europe. I'm not sure that's the wisest long-term strategy between those two European powers, given the real answer to crush-avoidance is an alliance between Germany, Western Europe, Russia and the US vs China and its allies.

imo, the game has changed with the outing and continuing disabling of the DS.  The EU is held together by the slimmest of threads these days and Germany doesn't have the power as many like to think.  There is currently, an under-swelling support for nationalist movements.

The U.S., as long as it has the military it has and occupies the largest market and strongest economy in the world will ALWAYS have a major role to exercise anywhere on the planet; if our leaders realize it's to the country's benefit to TAKE a role.

Don't forget the 'Stans are also the land bridge between Asia/Europe.  The Indians/Pakis are making that painfully obvious.

Germany has the engineering/manufacturing, Russia has the resources: both human and natural. The British Empire created two world wars plus the Russian Revolution, to prevent those two getting together, in the last century. That;s how seriously the most successful empire in history regarded the potential threat to itself, from that alliance.

The 'Stans yes, are the geographical bridge, but the last link to Europe is Russia and this is why China is doing its OBOR. The projection in a Sino-led BRICS world is Moscow and Shanghai replace NY and London as the global financial centres and the OBOR is the veins with high-speed rail and land-ports as the blood supply. No US required, neither land nor sea.

This is why DS kick-started China with the 90's off-shoring, using London/NY money and US IP. All stolen, made from drugs and human trafficking back when the BE used to run the slavery and Chinese opium markets, from the 16th to the 18th centuries.

You're right, Trump has created a nationalist resistance movement. I'm not sure how many of us recognise what's at stake. What's more of a worry is: who else but Trump can and will take up the torch when he leaves?
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(02-28-2019, 12:10 AM)Sassy Wrote:
(02-27-2019, 11:49 PM)Aquarius Wrote:
(02-27-2019, 05:22 PM)Sassy Wrote: Who is JRay talking about???????


https://twitter.com/jray_redfever/status...6269084674

"that page doesn't exist".  
What was in it, Sassy?

I don't remember but it was a reply to this tweet by Dawson Field.

https://twitter.com/DawsonSField/status/...0609531905

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it simply said, "Boom!"

"Bitterness is the poison we drink, hoping it kills the other person." -Corrie Ten Boom







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