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(06-23-2019, 06:58 AM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote:
(06-22-2019, 08:07 PM)Sassy Wrote:
(06-22-2019, 04:52 PM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote: Regardiing the Mexican connecton to threatening people in the US, this a vid from the Times-Union pre-conference hearing last April. Don't listen to the whole thing -- it's a bit much. But go to 1:27:00 and listen to what they say about getting threatening legal letters from Mexico...




I just watched the whole thing. Interesting.

Wow, Sassy. I give you a lot of credit for sticking with  it. I was actually at that event, which was bllled as a pre-trial conference. This was about a week before the trial was expected to begin, and most of us were there curious about what the trial was going to cover, learn the implications of what it meant for those who, at that point, had taken the plea bargain. It was, most of us thought, the  equivablent of the pre-game show before a sporting event.

Instead, what we got was, in my opinion, the Barbara Bouchey Show. Bermas has edited this down a bit but it's stlll all about Barbara, who kept insistng that NXiVM did "a lot of good" and that no one else could understand that because she "was there and you weren't." (Remember, she exited long before the formaton of DOS). In my opinion, she is either quite damaged or enjoying the spotlight and hoping to profit from it -- or maybe both. People who attended the trial have reported that she hung around outside the court each day tryiing to snag anybody who would give her a mic and say what she thought about each day's proceedings.

Having said that, you can't blame a chicken for squawking and there is no doubt that much of what she provided to law enforcement and the media has helped to bring light on this organization. I think that's one of the reasons the moderator from the Times-Union was so diplomatic is trying to keep things moving along while stll allowing her to go on and on. Much of the lead on their coverage must have come from her, I would guess. And she was one smart cookie to take all those boxes and duplicate everything that was contained therein. That was a whole lot of evidence that would have otherwise "disappeared."

Prior to the conference, every registered attendee was given the opportunity to submit a question. We were also told that there might be time to ask questions from the floor. Not a single question was brought up or addressed. This was extremely disappointng for many of the attendees, myself included.

And at the end, one woman, out of frustraton, jumped up and started talking loudly about her granddaughter who she claimed was snagged by NXIVM, that she had reported it to the authorities, claimed to have records of the police reports, etc. This was an uncomfortable situation for everyone, the moderator called her up front and privately took her comments and the rest of us were politely asked to leave.  I don't know what happened with this woman, and  I don't recall seeng it reported anywhere so I have no idea if her claims were legit or not.

Thanks so much Fritzy. You were right Barbara sure tried to make it all about her and it was so in your face.

Yea, she's got some issues. I honestly enjoyed listening to Oxenburg, the lawyer and the reporter. I can see how Barbara did have an important role, but she is still not in full real-time reality yet. Hugs

You have shared some wonderful info here tonight. I'll get through it as soon as I can.

And nope it's not over, not by a long shot! Yeah3
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Bump 2 Keep Up Front .



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They're still workin' it, folks, with a whole new leader -- Nicki Clyne. According to just-released info from FrankReport, "Nicki Clyne, formerly an actress on the TV show Battlestar Gallatica, has risen to the top role in the master slave group, DOS, according to Nxivm insiders."

So, Nicki Clyne is Canadian. She got "married" to Allison Mack -- surprise! Green Card! Again, from FrankReport:
Quote:As far as is known Mack is still legally married to Clyne, who is a Canadian, and who reportedly obtained a Green Card thanks to her marriage to Mack, a US citizen. Although the DOJ called their marriage “a sham” in court filings neither Clyne nor Mack have been charged with immigration marriage fraud.

According to FrankReport, she is still holding the same "readiness" drills, administering the same types of punishment such as "...reducing their caloric intake to under 500 calories, taking cold showers, doing planks, standing outside in the middle of the night perfectly still, or, in some instances, corporal punishment such as bare buttocks paddling."

There's more about this which I'll link at the end but I also want to highlight a couple of other things:

First, there's Dr. Danielle Roberts, who diid a lot of the brandiing, still holds a medical license and in fact, recently was a featured speaker at some health expo in Long Island.

Quote:Dr. Roberts was informed that a New York State Board of Health investigation into whether her medical license should be suspended or revoked was halted until the trial of Raniere ended. Now that he has been convicted, the BOH reportedly will continue its investigation and will utilize evidence revealed in the criminal trial.

Even if Dr. Roberts loses her medical license, she would still be able to brand women. A medical license is not needed to perform scarification [branding] in New York State.

And then, there's Dr. Fright -- commonly known as Dr. Brandon Porter. He's the one who was showng snuff movies to the gals just to measure their reactions. And yes, he is still legally a doctor.

Quote:...the Medical Licensing Board of the Department of Health is expected to soon decide whether Dr. Brandon Porter may keep his medical license. He is being investigated for his role in conducting human fright experiments on Nxivm women and failing to report a suspicious outbreak of poisoning or illness at Vanguard Week in 2016.

...Dr. Porter continues to live in Clare Bronfman’s Clifton Park home. His wife, Janie, attended the trial of Raniere and sat with Raniere supporters.

And remember Clare Bear, who has been fashionably attired with ankle wear for many months, who "fainted" in the courtroom when the judge asked her about Avenatti being her lawyer, and who gave that heartfelt speech about gosh, I really didn't use all my wealth and privelige for good, did I?

Quote:Despite being barred from meeting with anyone on the Nxivm coaches list without her attorney being present,, Clare has met with at least one Nxivm coach from Mexico at her Manhattan apartment, reportedly to give instructions through her to Nxivm Mexico followers.


Okay, those are just a few highlights. Read more here: https://frankreport.com/2019/06/26/nicki...leads-dos/
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Here's a link to Jen Kobelt's complaint against Dr. Brandon Porter, uploaded by Cathleen Crowley of the Albany Times-Union

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/...laint.html
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(06-24-2019, 11:59 PM)Sassy Wrote:
(06-23-2019, 06:58 AM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote:
(06-22-2019, 08:07 PM)Sassy Wrote: I just watched the whole thing. Interesting.

Wow, Sassy. I give you a lot of credit for sticking with  it. I was actually at that event, which was bllled as a pre-trial conference. This was about a week before the trial was expected to begin, and most of us were there curious about what the trial was going to cover, learn the implications of what it meant for those who, at that point, had taken the plea bargain. It was, most of us thought, the  equivablent of the pre-game show before a sporting event.

Instead, what we got was, in my opinion, the Barbara Bouchey Show. Bermas has edited this down a bit but it's stlll all about Barbara, who kept insistng that NXiVM did "a lot of good" and that no one else could understand that because she "was there and you weren't." (Remember, she exited long before the formaton of DOS). In my opinion, she is either quite damaged or enjoying the spotlight and hoping to profit from it -- or maybe both. People who attended the trial have reported that she hung around outside the court each day tryiing to snag anybody who would give her a mic and say what she thought about each day's proceedings.

Having said that, you can't blame a chicken for squawking and there is no doubt that much of what she provided to law enforcement and the media has helped to bring light on this organization. I think that's one of the reasons the moderator from the Times-Union was so diplomatic is trying to keep things moving along while stll allowing her to go on and on. Much of the lead on their coverage must have come from her, I would guess. And she was one smart cookie to take all those boxes and duplicate everything that was contained therein. That was a whole lot of evidence that would have otherwise "disappeared."

Prior to the conference, every registered attendee was given the opportunity to submit a question. We were also told that there might be time to ask questions from the floor. Not a single question was brought up or addressed. This was extremely disappointng for many of the attendees, myself included.

And at the end, one woman, out of frustraton, jumped up and started talking loudly about her granddaughter who she claimed was snagged by NXIVM, that she had reported it to the authorities, claimed to have records of the police reports, etc. This was an uncomfortable situation for everyone, the moderator called her up front and privately took her comments and the rest of us were politely asked to leave.  I don't know what happened with this woman, and  I don't recall seeng it reported anywhere so I have no idea if her claims were legit or not.

Thanks so much Fritzy. You were right Barbara sure tried to make it all about her and it was so in your face.

Yea, she's got some issues. I honestly enjoyed listening to Oxenburg, the lawyer and the reporter. I can see how Barbara did have an important role, but she is still not in full real-time reality yet. Hugs

You have shared some wonderful info here tonight. I'll get through it as soon as I can.

And nope it's not over, not by a long shot!  Yeah3

Sassy has been another one who is a blessing with resources and articles I wouldn't have known about or researched myself (I admit it). Much appreciated, all of you who have kept on this beyond just the trial, but with what this thing is and all it involves.
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Ok, so this isn't exactly NEXIVM info (yet), but I think it might have a 'fit' here. If not, always delete. Just happened on this vid, and how it was missed is kind of odd. There's just SO much going on under the Big Top right now, you focus on the riders on the ponies, the elephants, the clowns, or the magicians. Plates are spinning in the air; yet, this seems to indicate there's a little something more that we missed - after all, HRC and pedophilia is a BIG deal, and ultimately may have a connection to the cult. I hadn't heard any of this, and not really surprised. Just on my 'evening news' jaunt thru youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iathwwlfV9c
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(06-26-2019, 02:20 PM)Pure Rock fury Wrote: Sassy has been another one who is a blessing with resources and articles I wouldn't have  known about or researched myself (I admit it).  Much appreciated, all of you who have kept on this beyond just the trial, but with what this thing is and all it involves.

Sassy is aces! A great researcher and a good talent for connecting the dots. Wink

The team working on this thread is just so good. Everyone brings something to the table because we all have different resources and a variety of insights. Really grateful for everyone here and all the contrbutions. Heartflowers
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(06-26-2019, 08:26 PM)Firefly Wrote: Ok, so this isn't exactly NEXIVM info (yet), but I think it might have a 'fit' here.  If not, always delete.  Just happened on this vid, and how it was missed is kind of odd.  There's just SO much going on under the Big Top right now, you focus on the riders on the ponies, the elephants, the clowns, or the magicians.  Plates are spinning in the air; yet, this seems to indicate there's a little something more that we missed - after all, HRC and pedophilia is a BIG deal, and ultimately may have a connection to the cult.  I hadn't heard any of this, and not really surprised.  Just on my 'evening news' jaunt thru youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iathwwlfV9c

Never hesitate to add something, even if you're not "exactly" sure if it's related.

This is pretty interesting. What happened to this investigation scandal? I never heard anything about it. Also, if I can piece this together, didn't it happen around the time of the whole Libyan debacle? And who is Sara Bronfman's husband -- Baston Igtet, rumored to be a pretty big player in bringing that theatrical event to opening night.

Yeah, see if you can find more on this. Pretty interesting. Who was the ambassador they reference in the vid? Do you know?
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I was had to look up who Nicki Clyne is. Oh yeah, I remember her. The article was an older about her involvement with the cult. It mentioned she went into business with two friends (speculated to be Allison Mack and the other address from Smallville, Kristin Kreuk) that is, quote: "But basically we want to create an online community for college students that, that invokes and inspires critical thoughts, and connecting with people who share values. As well as a commerce portion that business, that will partner with different businesses, and provide discounts for students on whatever they might need.". So basically a recruiting tool targeting students. I wasn't even aware Kristin Kreuk was involved with NXIVM. She says she parted ways with them about 5 years ago. Hope so. Anyway.....looks like they are doing a decent job with trying to keep the thing alive in there in Mexico. I would like to believe the stories that they are not liked there, but the Mexican gvt. likes anyone with money.
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(06-26-2019, 09:28 PM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote:
(06-26-2019, 08:26 PM)Firefly Wrote: Ok, so this isn't exactly NEXIVM info (yet), but I think it might have a 'fit' here.  If not, always delete.  Just happened on this vid, and how it was missed is kind of odd.  There's just SO much going on under the Big Top right now, you focus on the riders on the ponies, the elephants, the clowns, or the magicians.  Plates are spinning in the air; yet, this seems to indicate there's a little something more that we missed - after all, HRC and pedophilia is a BIG deal, and ultimately may have a connection to the cult.  I hadn't heard any of this, and not really surprised.  Just on my 'evening news' jaunt thru youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iathwwlfV9c

Never hesitate to add something, even if you're not "exactly" sure if it's related.

This is pretty interesting. What happened to this investigation scandal? I never heard anything about it. Also, if I can piece this together, didn't it happen around the time of the whole Libyan debacle? And who is Sara Bronfman's husband -- Baston Igtet, rumored to be a pretty big player in bringing that theatrical event to opening night.

Yeah, see if you can find more on this. Pretty interesting. Who was the ambassador they reference in the vid? Do you know?

I vaguely remember this story now. Very good question with what happened to the investigation and the hubbub it caused. The story DID seem to imply that either HRC herself or someone else high up squashed. HRC seems to have more ties with individuals connected to NXIVM, so would not be at all surprised to find out they were the source of the underaged girls that ambassador was sleeping with. But, as it was quickly swept under the rug, we may never know for sure.
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