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Nazi Antarctica_"disclosure" UFO Propulsion, 1947, new James Forrestal doc interview
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Dr. Farouk El-Baz, Director
https://www.bu.edu/remotesensing/faculty/el-baz/

This man chose all the Apollo landing spots on the Moon.
Among the world's most impressive resume's right there.
Why an Egyptian? Masonic reasons.

Masonic Rites And Rituals On The Apollo 11 Moon Landing?
https://www.ufoinsight.com/masonic-rites...n-landing/

Apollo lunar landing coordinates http://www.siriustwins.com/watcher/hoag3.html
Where & When of Apollo Landings Carefully Planned http://www.lunaranomalies.com/czarnik.htm


The German Third Reich was a grave enemy of Masonry.

Freemasonry did not fair well during those times - many Freemasons (even non-Jewish Freemasons) were shipped off to concentration camps and suffered the consequences that came with that.
https://masonicfind.com/was-hitler-a-freemason

In 1942, Alfred Rosenberg was authorized by a Hitler decree to wage an "intellectual war" against the Jews and Freemasons.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/e...azi-regime

The number of Freemasons from Nazi occupied countries who were killed is not accurately known, but it is estimated that between 80,000 and 200,000 Freemasons were murdered under the Nazi regime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressio...reemasonry

Adolf Hitler wrote in his book Mein Kampf that the Freemasons had been subverted by the Jewish people and that the organization had become the instrument through which the Jews fought for their aims.
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant...asons.html

In Roswell and the Reich alternative science and history researcher Joseph P Farrell presents a very different scenario of what crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947, and why the U.S. military has continued its cover-up to this day. By means of a meticulous review of the best-known Roswell research from both UFO-ET advocates and skeptics alike, as well as some not-so-well known Roswell research, Farrell presents a fascinating case sure to disturb both ET believer and skeptic alike, namely, that what crashed may have been representative of an independent postwar Nazi power, an extraterritorial Reich monitoring its old enemy, America, and its continuing developments of the very technologies it confiscated from Germany at the end of the war.
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/02/n...space.html

It was one thing to explain to the public that one or more extraterrestrial intelligences were freely operating on Planet Earth for purposes which they kept to themselves. It was entirely something else to explain that a massive black infrastructure [of separate, extraterrestrial, human government] had evolved, siphoning off public money, operating in total secrecy for years, developing [and NOT sharing stunning] new technologies, and making profits based on monopolistic exploitation of acquired ET technology. Another still to explain that the U.S. President, or other national leaders for that matter, were not necessarily the key decision-makers when it came to such matters [emphasis added] ...."
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-Message3.htm
^ the above link is to Part 3 of a 3-part analysis by Richard Hoagland on the Norway Spiral. Was it another example of Nazi interference against advanced Russian space experiments? The recent deaths of Russian naval officers in the undersea Arctic regions and this quote present interesting ramifications: ‘Submarines of the future will have contours fundamentally different from submarines operational today. Perhaps, they will even look like flying saucers. And, of course, they will be crewless," he said.
https://tass.com/defense/1067877

Corso Roswell Alien Technology - Freemason Disinfo? Alien Abductions & Mutilations
Alternative Three - Nazi German Moon Bases & Alien Technology - Apollo Moon Hoax
http://www.siriustwins.com/watcher/nasamason.html
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And then there was Lt. Samuel A. Krasney’s experience: a wingless cigar-shape object, glowing red, just a few yards off the plane’s wingtip. Lt. Krasney, justifiably spooked, instructed the pilot to attempt evasive maneuvers, but the glowing object stayed right next to the jet for several minutes before it “flew off and disappeared.”
https://www.history.com/news/wwii-ufos-a...o-fighters

The Washington Post
Sunday, September 19, 1954
Flying 'Cigar' Stops Silent Over Rome
http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Secret%20f...0Reich.htm

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@Full Throttle Some very important quotes here. I mixed in some other material.
The initial inspiration to some of this post was UFOs: A Game of Perception by Jim Nichols (available free on Amazon Prime)
here is Jim's website: http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/ <> also some material was found on another message board and contains the work of Peter Levenda, although I am unsure which book exactly) here is a recent talk he gave concerning Nazis and the US Secret Space Program in 2011. I have not yet listened or watched. Personally, I am suspicious of the occult angle in any of the flying machine development. My view is that the occult angle and over-representation of the occult on the Nazi side is mostly disinformation and smear tactics, while the occult side in the American establishment that rose to power after the death of James Forrestall and Gen. Patton is indeed connected with the U.S. alien agenda psyop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lERh-uNmj8A

"The engineering of consent is the very essence of the democratic process, the freedom to persuade and suggest."
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society..."
"Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country..." "We are governed, our minds are molded, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of...", "it is they who pull the wires which control the public mind". - Edward Bernays

"Democracy, to my father, was a wonderful concept, but, I don't think he felt he thought those publics, out there, would have reliable judgement, and that they very easily might, vote for the wrong man, the wrong thing, and that they had to be guided from above. To appeal to their desires, and their unrecognized longings, that sort of thing. That you can tap into their deepest desires, or their deepest fears , and use that to your own purposes" - Anne Bernays

During WWII, Edward R. Murrow, also a CFR member (as Orson Welles, War of the Worlds broadcast psyop), was paid by the Rockefeller Foundation to monitor Nazi propaganda and judge its effectiveness. From this project sprang the FBIS (Foreign Broadcast Intelligence Service) [Dr. Paul F. Lazarsfeld], which would eventually become the United States Information Agency [Frank Stanton], used by the National Security Council [Dr. Hadley Cantril], as its chief disseminator of propaganda after WWII. Leaving CBS, Frank Stanton became the chairman of the Rand Corporation, a think tank that researched, among other topics, mass brainwashing by affecting the public through the media.

In 1941, OSS Director Dr. William "Wild Bill" Donovan developed an Americanized version of Nazi psychological warfare propaganda techniques which was defined as: "full spectrum dominance over all aspects of a target population's interpretive and decision-making faculties, employing all the techniques of mass communication propaganda and the all-important component - the calculated application of terror." (Office of Public Opinion Research) What better place to test the new theories of psychological warfare, than among our native populace, the most turned-on, tuned-in, mentally massaged nation on earth - the United States of America"
By 1947 with postwar Paperclip Nazis, President Truman established project MJ-12 top secret agency exclusively mandated for UFO research - mass brainwashing of an unsuspecting public through the mass media.
One of Majestic 12's members was Gordon Gray, head of Truman's Psychological Strategy Board. One of MJ-12's objectives was to control the public perception of the UFO phenomenon. With this in mind, Air Force general Nathan Twining, also a member of MJ-12, insisted to President Truman "that as a psychological issue, the UFO phenomenon was bigger than the Manhattan Project and required that it be managed on a larger scale and obviously for a longer period... " "They would form nothing less than a government within the government, sustaining itself from presidential administration to presidential administration regardless of whatever political party took power, and ruthlessly guarding their secrets while evaluating every new bit of information on flying saucers they received. But at the same time, they would allow disclosure of some of the most farfetched information, whether true or not, because it would help create a climate of public attitude that would be able to accept the existence of extraterrestrial life without a general sense of panic." - Col. Philip J. Corso

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On June 13, 1941, an Army officer is initiated into the OTO at the Agape Lodge temple. His name is Grady McMurtry, and he will be stationed for a time in England where he meets Aleister Crowley and develops an odd sort of relationship with the Prophet of Thelema. At this same time, Crowley has been involved in some potential intelligence work with such figures as Dennis Wheatley and Ian Fleming, both officers with British intelligence and friends of Crowley. They would later become famous novelists, of course, but at the time they were seeking Crowley’s assistance to exploit his knowledge of the European occult underground in the war effort. (This is all covered in detail in my Unholy Alliance.) McMurtry will return to the United States safely after the war, and engineer a coup to take over leadership of the OTO after the deaths of Crowley and Crowley’s designated successor. More about McMurtry in later chapters, but his movements between the Agape Lodge—which is, after all, infamous among the rocket scientists who are working on highly classified work—and London, where Crowley, their leader, is staying are suggestive of a larger purpose.

According to FBI file 65-1753, originating with the Los Angeles Field Office but made at Cincinnati, Ohio on November 22, 1950, Parsons was being investigated by the Army’s CIC (Counter Intelligence Corps) in May 1948. A Major Sam Bruno, Chief of Security at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, reported the CIC investigation to the FBI. His report stated that “a religious cult, believed to advocate sexual perversion, was organized at subject’s home at 1003 South Orange Grove Avenue, Pasadena, California, which had been reported subversive…. The report further reflects that subject reportedly associated with one [name deleted] an alleged Communist Party member.”

A word to the nervous: Wright-Patterson AFB in 1948 is a very suggestive place to have been involved in an investigation of Jack Parsons, to be sure. UFO enthusiasts know Wright-Patterson as the scene where the elements of the crashed Roswell “flying saucer” were taken in 1947. It is also, of course, where Nazi General Walter Dornberger and his merry men were first taken as part of Operation Paperclip, curiously at the very same time as the Roswell crash in July 1947, leading many to suggest that the UFOs were really Nazi experimental aircraft.

The day after the assassination of President Kennedy, his former mistress Mary Pinchot Meyer phoned LSD guru Timothy Leary to tell him that the President was murdered by a conspiracy at the highest levels of government. Mary Pinchot Meyer (1920-1964) had once been married to CIA Chief of Covert Action Operations Cord Meyer, Jr. Cord Meyer, a former Marine lieutenant who was badly wounded on Guam in 1944, joined the CIA in late 1950 and gradually rose through the ranks, being at one time Chief of Station in London and later Deputy Director of Plans. Mary Meyer was murdered less than a year after the Kennedy assassination—on October 12, 1964 (coincidentally Aleister Crowley’s birthday, and of course the day Columbus discovered America)—and her diary disappeared. She seemed to have been the victim of a mugging in Georgetown during the lunch hour, shot in the face at close range on a towpath, although the level of violence in the attack made it look suspicious to some, and the accused murderer was acquitted by a jury due to lack of evidence.
( above excerpted from: Peter Levenda, Sinister Forces)

Hitler knew enough about Thelema to ban Liber AL in Germany and thus Germer became his enemy when his religious beliefs became known. On Hitler’s orders Germer was arrested by the Gestapo on 13 February 1935 in Leipzig and incarserated.[8] He was first held at the Columbia-Haus prison in Berlin. There he was allowed to work a short time on an architect’s office
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Germer

The "grey aliens," slight-bodied, big-headed, large-dark-eyed manikin creatures are primarily an American phenomena. And, it is interesting to note that all the Lam workings were done in America.
Cult of Lam, O.T.O. Aleister Crowley alien demon drawing, etc. - draw your conclusions...

"How fortunate for leaders that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler

"Sarah, there's a government inside the government, and I don't control it." - Bill Clinton, as quoted by senior White House reporter Sarah McClendon
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Quote:But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe.....

And isn't THAT quite a commonly used tool.  In nearly every aspect of our existence is that a commonly used tool.  Has trickled fully down to un-official settings, to the extent that it actually creates the desired reality.

"Belief".  The one thing that reliably stops one from arriving at truth.  Because the moment one ~believes~ is the moment that one will stop asking questions.  Pretty slick.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a
profoundly sick society.
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(07-14-2019, 07:20 PM)Pope Trollalotta Wrote:
(07-14-2019, 07:01 PM)oldcynic Wrote:
(07-14-2019, 04:57 PM)SkyCat Wrote: I made a similar thread:
https://the-fringe.com/thread-new_swabia...tic_colony

Yours has some more info though ...
Heartflowers

As much information as there is about this "wonderland", I have been laughed at for being a kook when I bring up the subject.  

It would not surprise me in the least that Antarctica is headquarters for those who truly rule this world.  The only thing that confuses me is the fact that reptiles do not like to be cold. Chuckle

For me what clinches it is that the worlds Governments have not allowed any exploitation or tourism. It goes against human nature to put a big police tape around an entire continent. Something big is being hidden from humanity. I would argue that humanity has a right to know. In this case I wonder if it is a situation of if they tell us it will kill us.

It could literally be anything. It could be Treebeards Nazi's living in warmed ice caves. It could be aliens or compounds for the elite. For some reason I am thinking of a novel written in the 90's called "Towing Jehovah". The story of a tug captain having to tow the divine corpse to the arctic to preserve it. Maybe Gods corpse is in one of those caves? Perhaps there are Stargates or other portals to other universes can be found there? I would love to know.


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@Full Throttle @Elric @oldcynic @Nekro @Pope Trollalotta

Philippe Buache’s map of the Antarctic lands: a version found only in the Library of Congress
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Philippe Buache’s map
http://www.badarchaeology.com/old-maps/p...aches-map/

The British Antarctic Survey Bedmap2:
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http://www.antarctica.gov.au/__data/asse...arctic.jpg
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http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1034013/original.jpg
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Antarctic map made by Heinrich C. Berann for the National Geographic Society in 1966.
http://thewebmatrix.net/disclosure/1933.html
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(08-04-2019, 11:15 AM)Treebeard Wrote: @Full Throttle @Elric @oldcynic @Nekro @Pope Trollalotta

Philippe Buache’s map of the Antarctic lands: a version found only in the Library of Congress
[Image: pirireismap.jpg]

Philippe Buache’s map
http://www.badarchaeology.com/old-maps/p...aches-map/

The British Antarctic Survey Bedmap2:
[Image: antarctic.jpg]
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/__data/asse...arctic.jpg
[Image: original.jpg]
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1034013/original.jpg
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Antarctic map made by Heinrich C. Berann for the National Geographic Society in 1966.
http://thewebmatrix.net/disclosure/1933.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mJXI0eAuwM
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(07-16-2019, 10:50 AM)Wingsprint Wrote:
(07-15-2019, 12:30 PM)Treebeard Wrote: Notice the geologic designation "cenozoic volcanic rocks" right at Neuschawbenland.
This is current geology. Here you can zoom in once you open the map and see right
to the immediate left of the Muhlig-Hofmann Mts. the orange area with its legend
as volcanic. Volcanic means heat...heat means water.  look closer and see the tiny orange circle with an "x"
inside it, the map legend says "x" is ACTIVE volcano.
http://maps.pgc.umn.edu/antarctica/ags/0...rctica.jpg

Genesis: Let there be a firmament in the middle of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

we are standing on the firmament. the waters below are under us.

we are standing on the firmament....???????  Have to absorb that a bit....

worth some thought....

I'm with ya on the firmament.....those few parts of the bible in the beginning are a hard clue....

also missing a ton of info... if god truly wrote the bible thru man he wouldnt have allowed it to be misrepresented or missing info. Scratchinghead
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Body of Adm. Byrd's Son, 68, Found in Empty Warehouse

By PETER KERROCT. 9, 1988
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It was unclear, the police said, how the elderly member of a prominent Massachusetts family had come to wander and sleep in an area of warehouses and factories in the city's Hampden section.

''He was just wearing a shirt and pants and one shoe, and they all looked dirty,'' Detective Gilbert said, adding that the custodian who had chased Mr. Byrd and the other man recalled that ''they had booze with them in a paper bag at the time.'' Resident of Beacon Hill

Mr. Byrd's family described him as a resident of the affluent Beacon Hill section of Boston.
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''I put him on a train, and my wife was supposed to meet him,'' Leverett Byrd said. ''What happened in between, I don't know. It's very strange, this whole thing. We're trying to come to grips with it.
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In his interview with The Baltimore Sun, Leverett Byrd said his father had lived from stock market investments and a trust fund. ''His whole life was pretty difficult,'' he said. ''You can imagine what it was like to be the son of Admiral Byrd.''
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/09/us/bo...house.html
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Anyone who has read my posts should know by now, that I've been analyzing this "UFO" (and USO) phenomenon, like many of you, for a very long time now. My conclusion (still open, but pretty firm) is that ALL of these actual craft, and non-craft sightings (such as fiery balls, white-electrical) are products of hidden programs. The hidden programs include the American (both military and non-military), Russian, British, French, and most recently, Chinese programs.

I also retain the possibility that a non-US captured German remnant evaded Allied defeat post-WWII and may have survived and grown, still choosing to stay undeclared in this world. This does not mean, seventy years on, that they are still to be thought of as "Nazis". Remember the very term "Nazi" is an Allied smear, the Germans did not use that phrase.

I also reject as disinformation the recent over-emphasis on Nazi occult societies role in "channeling" or contacting aliens in their development of ground-breaking tech along the same disinfo rat line that works in the United States. I believe that the "aliens" and "occult" explanations serve a double intention - both distractionary and INDOCTRINARY (thought control).

The promotion of the CIA, MIC, and para-Freemasonic secret societies - with the foundations, institutes, colleges, media and captured assets inside the U.S. government - the SHADOW GOVERNMENT - "government within the government" - is to disseminate the alien origin technology mythos, the alien-genesis mythos, and the weaponization of space for the MIC, with a controversial illicit plan of some of them to turn this monstrosity against the population someday, to "unite" the world against such a threat that THEY control, or, at the very least, to maintain the Breakaway Civilization at a much higher level than the public level - which is almost as bad.

One of the better researchers over the years who keeps a level-head and thinks along the same lines is Michael Schratt.
Here is a 3-hour talk with Scratt on the contents of the real "Secret Space Program".

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From "Forum Borealis" You Tube channel:
"So what's the real SSP as opposed to the fantasy notion pushed by Gaia TV, David Wilcock, Corey Goode, & other conmen? Hear an expert give the adult treatment, discussing such points as: What cases points to covert tech? Whence & when did it begin? Reverse engineering or human development? How can we tell when spacecrafts are of earthling origin? Where are they manufactured & by whom? What's the production cost & how is it financed? What's the 3 security levels of aerial crafts? How advanced are they now? Can they reach the stars? What of Trump's space force? Which presidents would be clued in? What of TTSA's Disclosure? Who's in charge? + Learn why Thursdays are crucial..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gp8NWk4...annel=null
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