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#31
(06-04-2016, 07:19 PM)Tiny.2 Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 07:14 PM)Guest Wrote: It's an interesting phenomenon... But all the timeline shift stuff is borderline egomaniacal. Yes lots of people remember things wrong, many of them were all brought together by the their commonalities... Then groupthink makes them believe they are special and their memories weren't just mistaken.

Anyway its interesting and worthy of a thread; but if it gets into timeline shifts... I'll be an observer only. Cheers

Ok, how about this........I believe I dream of a previous life, always the same dream, and it ends in my death, but it isn't MY FACE........but it IS me...........is this in the same realm/ idea ?

I can't tell you what or who it is. But IMO, the idea of reincarnation is at least plausible and I might even go as far to say our subconscious imagination, while it's capable of recurring a dream... What would cause a subconscious which thrives on imagination to want to expend energy recalling something it's not familiar with? Steamy... No? 

If we are in a simulation or not... The idea of soul recycling makes sense to me. If there was a grand commisioner he might study the effects of 2nd or 3rd generation beings? Meh...Either that or our untapped potential in esp is clouding your mind with a relative or twin flame so to speak?

Or could it be that we are occasionally subconsciously connected to others born under the same astrological environment... I've read a bit on the characteristics attributed to the different signs and while I think horoscopes are just a scheme, I do believe in some of the astrological significance of your birth. You can't argue with statistics that are at least in my opinion overwhelming. If we are connected to someone outside our circles subconsciously I would have to believe they would be born under the same alignment of the moon and stars? It's interesting.  Yeah3
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#32
(06-04-2016, 07:21 PM)Fork Wrote: The images of lions and lambs in this Elvis music video show lions and lambs.
The song is the Peaceful Valley.... the words from Isaiah are the way I remember the bible verse.
Around the 2:00 mark in the video.... and the lion shall lie down with the lamb.



Why are the song lyrics different from the bible verse? Is it a mistake?

Elvis released a Christmas Album in 1957 and Peace in the valley was included.
Here are the lyrics:

Oh well, I'm tired and so weary
But I must go alone
Till the Lord comes and calls
Calls me away, oh yes
Well the morning's so bright
And the lamp is alight
And the night, night is as black
As the sea, oh yes

There will be peace in the valley for me, some day
There will be peace in the valley for me, oh Lord I pray
There'll be no sadness, no sorrow
No trouble, trouble I see
There will be peace in the valley for me, for me

Well the bear will be gentle
And the wolves will be tame
And the lion shall lay down by the lamb, oh yes
And the beasts from the wild
Shall be lit by a child
And I'll be changed
Changed from this creature that I am, oh yes

There will be peace in the valley for me, some day
There will be peace in the valley for me, oh Lord I pray
There'll be no sadness, no sorrow
No trouble, trouble I see
There will be peace in the valley for me, for me




 The song was written by Thomas Dorsey in 1937.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_in_the_Valley






 here's a blog entry about Mandela and peace... the animals of the peaceable kingdom are mentioned.


Quote:Teaching the Peaceful Way

Nelson Mandela was involved with a group that was trying to change things.
He was considered a criminal by the people who ran the country, and he was put in a jail in a place called Robben Island. He spent 27 years living in this jail cell.
[Image: peace-9.jpg?w=560]
He could have come out of jail very angry, and trying to get revenge on the people who put him in jail. 

But he had inside him a dream of peace. He wanted to help make a world in which people could be like the animals in the Peaceable Kingdom, and get along with each other.

https://sharingbreadalongtheway.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/for-the-second-sunday-of-advent-2013-teaching-the-peaceful-way/

Personally I believe conceptually the whole Mandela effect boils down to our memories being steared or clouded in a consistent direction by our environment. Err... The idea that we all recall the same false memory is most likely because of the context and possibly even later news/which subconsciously effects our memory.

Take Mandela... We all learned (most anyway) about this man as if he was already a martyr. He was sandwiched in our lesson plans between other great dead men. He had health issues and his hunger strikes were sold to the world as if he was on his death bed in a prison cell with no hope for release. He had multiple brushes with death from my recollection. I think this alone could cause an aging populace to falsely recall his death. Gandhi may have the same false recollection phenomenon?

Perhaps world events after the Mandela years somehow programs the brain to recall events differently. Simplistically South Africa ended apartheid so therefore the martyr we all remembered must have died to make this happen. Maybe unrelated events clash within our brains collectively to muddy our recollection of certain events? All these things seem much more plausable than some kind of dimensional timeline shifts; the evidence does not support an alternate history... Just a consistently wrong recollection of a handful of events.

Berenstain Bears was pronounced stein so our memory will recall the more familiar variety in this case the audible one. Im not sure why this is not more likely discussed other than people grasping for straws to make them feel more comfortable with being wrong.

The wolf vs lamb or whatever is not familiar enough to me but we learned anout this stuff while learning about little red riding hood and little bo peep... Do these memories get stored in similar buckets which get criss crossed at a consistent level? Imo that is a more likely scenario. I did like back to the future though, I don' believe we are living it.
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#33
(06-04-2016, 04:40 PM)Tiny.2 Wrote: This thread interests me, even if I don't quite get it, I'm going to follow along, and learn....... Drinks

Same Hiding
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#34
I didn't mean to poo on the comcept because... Im just a clueless as anyone but that's just my take on it.
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#35
(06-04-2016, 06:56 PM)~mc~ Wrote: so our memory changes from things that are actually real ?  Scratchinghead

Sort of. Reality changes not our memory.
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#36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLnkEfBPB0

This guy explains it pretty well, I think.
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#37
(06-06-2016, 01:58 AM)AmbitchN Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 06:56 PM)~mc~ Wrote: so our memory changes from things that are actually real ?  Scratchinghead

Sort of. Reality changes not our memory.

All I know is that I never read a Berenstain Bears book when I was a kid Yeah
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#38
(06-06-2016, 08:24 AM)ChillBro Wrote:
(06-06-2016, 01:58 AM)AmbitchN Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 06:56 PM)~mc~ Wrote: so our memory changes from things that are actually real ?  Scratchinghead

Sort of. Reality changes not our memory.

All I know is that I never read a Berenstain Bears book when I was a kid Yeah

SAME!! It was Berenstein when I was a kid. My grandmother and I read those books on a daily basis.
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#39
Well I struck out with my last post so here is an interesting take from someone else...Schrodingers Nostalgia?

"Yes, we can ascertain that the books have been called Berenstain, with no variation, in every official record. And yes, we can find that the image of Henry VIII eating a drumstick came from a movie, not a painting. But that doesn’t explain the confusion – no, that’s all a red herring! Because if two or three of us remember a painting with a drumstick, then we have ourselves a parallel time stream. It’s much more interesting than a false memory implanted by a movie.

Actually, people have been amused by this not because they take the alternate-time-stream theory seriously. Really this is a discussion about nostalgia: about childhood and its inaccessible perfection. People are miffed when they are told that their childhood – which may have included this famously good-for-you set of children’s books – is not exactly as they remember. They want to claim childhood as something different from reality, as a myth that should remain untouched, inaccessible. It is a poetic impulse, really, not a philosophical one, and often expressed in art. The past is a foreign country, as a novelist said; they do things differently there."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/bere...ice=mobile
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#40
Schrödinger's Paradox
Because the only thing certain is uncertainty

Nostalgia
Insecurity grips,
Memories linger,
Humming to the tunes,
Of an unknown singer.

Inexplicable sadness,
Senses scream,
Her tender care,
Now only a dream.

...

Nostalgia is a
dirty liar
that insists things
were better
than they seemed.

Michelle K., I Can’t Stop Questioning It. (via bl-ossomed)
Source: michellekpoems

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'Schrodinger's Nostalgia' vs False Memories
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1086314/pg1
If you are reading this, I apologize for derailing your thread.
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