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Man who claimed voices in his head from his meds kills his wife and infant.
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(01-07-2017, 11:02 AM)YGuest Wrote:
(01-07-2017, 01:35 AM)Funny$ Wrote: Just thinking out loud.. possibly designed to be more receptive to certain frequencies? To hear voices that were not there prior is more than just a coincidence.

It is by design. 

The MK formulas brought into our culture via black budget/nazi scientist/med/psych/military insertion with Operation Paperclip is far beyond fathomable in scale to how many have been effected and how useful as tool it has become for the "NWO" agenda.

I remember reading about subliminal advertisement boards that were tested.. the purpose was to put a thought (voice)(low frequency pulses) in your head such as "i want a cheeseburger"... it did not work as well as planned. So, I am curious if certain meds(by design) lowers a persons resistance to such attacks...
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(01-07-2017, 01:51 PM)Funny$ Wrote:
(01-07-2017, 11:02 AM)YGuest Wrote:
(01-07-2017, 01:35 AM)Funny$ Wrote: Just thinking out loud.. possibly designed to be more receptive to certain frequencies? To hear voices that were not there prior is more than just a coincidence.

It is by design. 

The MK formulas brought into our culture via black budget/nazi scientist/med/psych/military insertion with Operation Paperclip is far beyond fathomable in scale to how many have been effected and how useful as tool it has become for the "NWO" agenda.

I remember reading about subliminal advertisement boards that were tested.. the purpose was to put a thought (voice)(low frequency pulses) in your head such as "i want a cheeseburger"... it did not work as well as planned. So, I am curious if certain meds(by design) lowers a persons resistance to such attacks...

I think that is a safe bet.
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(12-24-2016, 11:09 PM)Patty McSplatty Wrote: He told me he remembered the first time he heard voices, he got off a school bus. "I was on my driveway, looking at some bushes, and a voice said, 'You need to kill everyone, everyone in the world.'" He stated to me, "It scared the shit out of me. I was confused. It seemed like something was seriously wrong. I ran into the house and cried in my room. It said other things too. It said, 'You are a stupid piece of shit. You aren't worth anything,' and some jumbled words that I can't understand. I was just standing there, looking at the bushes."

I asked him at that point, "Where do you think the voices came from?" He said "Well, I had some theories. I was an atheist or an agnostic, I'm not sure. Maybe it was from the devil. I also thought that the government might have put a chip in my head. Government satellites might have transmitted to the chip in my head.
At first I thought the voices were outside of my head because they were so loud. They were very loud, like SurroundSound."


In September 1998, Kip Kinkel confessed to killing his parents in their home on May 20, 1998 and the next day, walking into the Thurston High School cafeteria and spraying students with 50 rounds from a semiautomatic rifle, killing two students, Ben Walker, 16, and Mikael Nickolauson, 17, and wounding 25 others. Kip was charged with four counts of aggravated murder and 26 counts of aggravated attempted murder (for the 25 students he wounded, plus his later assault on a police detective.)
In November 1999, he was sentenced to more than 111 years in prison, without a chance of parole. 
KIP KINKEL'S PLEA

An obvious tactic for Kip's defense lawyers would be to claim that he was insane. However, on September 24, 1999, three days before jury selection was set to begin, Kip pleaded guilty to the lesser counts of murder and attempted murder, abandoning the possibility of being acquitted by reason of insanity.

Under the plea agreement, Kip would serve somewhere between 25 and 220 years. The Oregon mandatory sentencing statute, Measure 11, required a sentence of 25 years for each of the four counts of murder. The prosecutors agreed to recommend that those sentences be served concurrently, so that Kip could serve as little as 25 years for the murders. Both sides agreed to the mandatory minimumsentence of 7 1/2 years for each of the attempted murder charges. It was up to the judge to determine whether any or all of those sentences should be served concurrently or consecutively. If he chose to apply them all concurrently, Kip could have served just 25 years; consecutively, they could have amounted to 195 additional years, for a total of 220.

Mark Sabitt, Kip's trial lawyer, spoke to FRONTLINE about the decision to plead guilty, foregoing the chance to argue an insanity defense at trial. Sabitt and his co-counsel, Rich Mullen, felt the plea agreement's provision for Judge Mattison to determine the sentence for the attempted murder charges left them better situated for a lesser sentence than they would have been before a jury. Both lawyers had tried cases before Judge Mattison before, and had found him to be a fair-minded and dispassionate fact finder. Sabitt said that they trusted Mattison to evaluate the facts and issue a just sentence. As a practical matter, they felt, a jury might be swayed by negative public perception of insanity defenses and by the fear of what would happen if Kip was released, rather than the isolated question of whether he was responsible for his actions. In retrospect, Sabitt said, "Of course, now we wonder why we didn't take it to trial."

Over the course of the six-day hearing, which started on November 2, 1999, Judge Jack Mattison heard testimony from many people: Kip's friends and family, detectives, teachers, doctors and psychiatrists. He also heard statements from many of the shooting victims and their families. 

THE STATE'S CASE

On the first day of the hearing, the state presented its entire case in less than four hours. District attorneys Kent Mortimore and Caren Tracy focused on detailing the murder of Kip's parents and his shooting spree, relying on eyewitnesses's testimony at the school and the police investigators who first gathered evidence from the Kinkel house.

Detective Pam McComas was one of the first to arrive at the Kinkel home on May 21. She testified about what she saw there. The bodies of both Faith and Bill Kinkel were covered in sheets, Bill locked in the bathroom, Faith in the garage. Bill had a single bullet wound behind his right ear, and Faith had five hseparate bullet wounds to the head, and one in her chest. Five bullets were lodged in her brain, and one in her heart. The soundtrack to the movie "Romeo and Juliet" was in...


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kinkel/trial

So Nicklas Cruz heard demon voices too, as did so many others....on meds.

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Years ago my daughter got in a patch of poison ivy and it spread all over her face and was heading to her eye and was put on steroids. That night I woke up to find her crouching at the bottom of the bed. I asked what she was doing and she said I feel bad like I want to kill someone. She was about 10 or 11 at the time.
Just let that shit go
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#25
It very well could be true, and now look at what hell he is in. Not only does he have to live with the fact that he killed his wife and baby girl, but will be thrown into prison while mourning their loss.
Up till recently we were still beating kids with ADD and turrets, thinking they were just assholes, when in fact, they had absolutely no control over their actions.
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Another Mass Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug—27 Drug Warnings and 1,531 Cases of Drug-Induced Homicidal Ideation Back Need for Federal Investigation

By CCHR International
October 9, 2017

Twenty-seven drug regulatory agency warnings cite psychiatric drug side effects of mania, psychosis, violence and homicidal ideation; 1,531 cases of psychiatric drug induced homicide/homicidal ideation have been reported to the US FDA; 65 high profile cases of mass shootings/murder have been committed by individuals under the influence of these drugs, yet there has never been a federal investigation into the link between seemingly senseless acts of violence and the use of mind-altering psychotropic drugs.

On October 1st, from a Las Vegas Mandalay Bay hotel room, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire upon a crowd of people, killing 59 and wounding more than 500 in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. Almost immediately the press began speculating as to a possible motive in the shooting; rumored ties to terrorist organizations came and went, dispelled by law enforcement as groundless. No criminal records or ties to radical organizations were uncovered by the press. Yet amidst the speculation immediately following the shooting, none of the journalists attending the live broadcast press conference posed the question: Was there any indication the shooter was under the influence of a mind-altering prescribed drug?

Considering that mainstream media rarely pursues this line of questioning, that law enforcement isn’t required to reveal it, and that the psychiatric-pharmaceutical industry certainly doesn’t want to address it, the task often falls to individual journalists to dig up relevant facts.

“The drug Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was prescribed, Valium, is a benzodiazepine documented by several studies to cause violence, aggression, homicidal ideation and suicide risk or attempts. New court records obtained by CNN indicate Paddock had been prescribed the drug as far back as 2013 ”

https://www.cchrint.org/2017/10/10/anoth...tric-drug/
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(12-24-2016, 03:14 PM)Sentio Wrote: Maybe I'm over-simplifying things, but:

If those same voices told him to scrub a million toilets, do you think he would?

NO!

Meds or not- we all know killing someone who is not a threat, is wrong.

Now, I know how fucked up pharmaceuticals can be. I'm like a damn migraineur Guinea pig. I know that if something is making me meaner than a pissed off rattler, I ought not to consume it.

Yes- drugs can mess with your brain chemistry. No, doc's don't know shit about the brain chemistry. They are truly guessing, because things affect us all differently.  

And I will concede, certain drugs can take away free will. But usually there is another human pushing their will on a person.

Who or what is pushing their/it's will on that man, in this or similar cases? Where does the urge and instruction to kill come from?
Do you feel your migraines (on average or at least some of them) are skeletor-muscular? Possibly stemming from some sort of injury? Does it seem (on average) that your thoratic muscles become aggravated, tense, tightened, and (then) accompanied by migraine? Do you throw-up (vomit) from then at times?
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