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Linda Moulton Howe: CIA asset? The Serpent in the Garden was "OUR TEACHER".
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I like the original camelot project interviews on this personally. They're the best I've come across so far. Not the current Kerry Cassidy site, but the original interviews on the original site: Pete Peterson, Bob Dean, etc.

It's a fascinating field.
Nothing is more vigorously defended than a vested interest disguised as an intellectual conviction.
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(09-13-2018, 06:20 PM)Treebeard Wrote: Those who fail to acknowledge the reality of 100% human hidden
technology and say everything UFO is alien are shills.

The opposite view of "100% human hidden technology" does not imply "everything UFO is alien" -- it implies "at least some UFO phenomena are of alien origin." Your reasoning in this thread contains a number of logical fallacies.

You seem to have a strong opinion about this topic. I'm curious ... what are your reasons to exclude an alien presence on earth?
A short answer may be sufficient, but I would like to know the general kind of view behind your statement. Is your view based on the Bible or current science or common sense or whatever?
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I have tracked allot of her work over the years, and SHE was a news reporter in Alb. NM and started with cattle mutilations and went from there following the trail of stramge incidents, IF she was a CIA person she was comped later on. I don't think she is, as ALLOT of what she says they would NOT want know or at least NOT in the way she presents it. now as for her sleeping partners, unless you were there that is also speculation, LMAOF, seems like all the talkers try to use this now days to discredit people,
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(09-14-2018, 10:55 AM)Apache54 Wrote: now as for her sleeping partners, unless you were there that is also speculation, LMAOF, seems like all the talkers try to use this now days to discredit people,

In my view the gossip about her sleeping partners looks like a desperate attempt to discredit her, therefore she becomes more credible for me. Even if these claims were true, they don't matter.

It's like saying: Einstein was a Jew (correct), therefore his theory of relativity is wrong. It may be wrong, but due to subject-specific reasons and not because of his ethnicity (or his haircut, rofl).
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(09-14-2018, 09:36 AM)roamer Wrote:
(09-13-2018, 06:20 PM)Treebeard Wrote: Those who fail to acknowledge the reality of 100% human hidden
technology and say everything UFO is alien are shills.

The opposite view of "100% human hidden technology" does not imply "everything UFO is alien" -- it implies "at least some UFO phenomena are of alien origin." Your reasoning in this thread contains a number of logical fallacies.

You seem to have a strong opinion about this topic. I'm curious ... what are your reasons to exclude an alien presence on earth?
A short answer may be sufficient, but I would like to know the general kind of view behind your statement. Is your view based on the Bible or current science or common sense or whatever?

In my estimation, there is no evidence of an extraterrestrial presence on this planet, especially not
conforming to the physical craft aerial phenomenon. Stories are told and not backed up. All the
unexplained aerial phenomenon that are legitimate can be explained as black project craft.
The secret space program and the secret military craft, possibly including non-state actors, were
developed during and shortly after WWII, leading to the flying saucer craze of the 1950s right up
to the triangular craft phenomenon of the late 80s and 90s, along with cigar-shaped. Innovations
of first-tier science, that science which for "national security" or secret society privacy is intentionally
mispresented as "alien" to draw the perceptions and trails away from real people to aliens.
A further benefit involves picking away at and controverting the times-old religions, replacing them
with an ancient aliens or panspermia genesis that can be utilized when the time comes, to fool the
basic populations into believing an alien invasion or extraterrestial threat is truly taking place when in
reality it will be the final push for world domination by this group of conspirators. That's what Werner
von Braun told Carol Rosin. The Nazis were developing anti-gravity in Germany and in Argentina, perhaps
in Antarctica, and the United States government went shadow after the agencies formed after WWII
took hold of Nikola Tesla's works. Some of his works also found their way into the Soviet Union via
his nephew. Thomas Townsend Brown worked for the secret programs. Other top Nazi scientists
worked in Operation Paperclip with the U.S. Bluebeam and Solar Warden, and the happenings at
Area 51 involve attempts to mix black project innovations with the military, that persisted with Eisenhower
then, after JFK was murdered, the Presidents haven't had the capacity to get involved in any of it.
Carter and Clinton were blackballed. Obama and Bush were blackballed.
Reagan allowed for more corporate overisght and corporate control over secrecy, allowing developments
to become the private property of non-governmental groups, such as the triangular craft built by Lockheed Martin
and the satellite advances, including Star Wars and Rods from God, as that particle beam and plasma weaponry
came to the fore, and may have been used on 9-11.
For example, the findings of hacker Gary McKinnon have never been debunked and he was prosecuted by
the government, they never denied his discovery. Comments of Ben Rich, Lockheed skunk works said
they had interstellar travel ability. If you look at the CIA's attempts to feed disinformation through media
channels (not just the CIA, all agencies) and UFOlogist communities (Richard Doty for example) then it's
easier to imagine the freemasons and other SS's possess this tech that they don't want to share with the public.
If they allowed it to fall into a democratic government's hands, then they would lose control and ownership.
This is the real Shadow Government, not the "Deep State" political network. In other countries and non-state
groups, other parties such as the Mellons and Rockefeller-connected, other names not in print have secret
programs they launched in places like Australia and NZ from the 60's. An example would be Stan Deyo's
revelations about the Dr. Teller group. Meanwhile, the Soviets employed their innovations in ways focused
on Tesla's electromagnetic and scalar wave systems that the U.S. didn't get from him. So the actual craft
are more of a Western thing, while the other tech such as sleep weapons and shutting down electrical power
are more Soviet, I suspect they have the ability to shut down all Israeli and possibly all American ICBMs.
The particulars of the advantages of each group, whether private or state-controlled or quasi-state is
100% secretive in any form, so it is impossible to ascertain. Those sworn to secrecy and sworn allegiance
to secret societies cannot be believed at all, because they are not dependable witnesses without evidence,
and I mean evidence that cannot be interpreted in various ways. Examples would include personages like
Philip Corso or Edgar Mitchell, even Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong.
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(09-14-2018, 12:06 PM)roamer Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 10:55 AM)Apache54 Wrote: now as for her sleeping partners, unless you were there that is also speculation, LMAOF, seems like all the talkers try to use this now days to discredit people,

In my view the gossip about her sleeping partners looks like a desperate attempt to discredit her, therefore she becomes more credible for me. Even if these claims were true, they don't matter.

It's like saying: Einstein was a Jew (correct), therefore his theory of relativity is wrong. It may be wrong, but due to subject-specific reasons and not because of his ethnicity (or his haircut, rofl).

Agreed!!
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(09-14-2018, 09:27 AM)Dr Evil Wrote: I like the original camelot project interviews on this personally. They're the best I've come across so far. Not the current Kerry Cassidy site, but the original interviews on the original site: Pete Peterson, Bob Dean, etc.

It's a fascinating field.

FYI: another collection of interviews is on the website of Daniel Liszt aka Dark Journalist (https://www.darkjournalist.com/interviews.php)
He has interviewed Linda Molton Howe, Joseph Farrell, Nomi Prins and others.

The whole debate here had a strange side effect: I just rediscovered an interview with Nomi Prins, "Bankster House of Cards" (2015)
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#29
Anybody on coast to coast is an operative.

Where the lies are and what the truth is.....well....that's the game.

So......good luck.
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I believe, I believe, I believe... No. I don't. Dang it. I am a big trekkie fan and right now I'm enjoying the old tv show, Blake's 7. It's on youtube and whole episodes  Cheer I love sci fi so much. I wanted to go into outer space. I wanted to be an astronaut when I was younger. I watched the first man walk on the moon in black and white on the telly in 1969 when it was 'live'. I so wanted to be a crew member of the Starship Enterprize and go into..... This was gonna be me when I grew up.  Wink





These days... guess it was around 5 years or so?? I don't know, sometimes since the BP oil spill, yeah that's one of my time markers  Chuckle , I decided that there was no life out there among the stars. I don't believe it anymore. All those aliens are angels and fallen angels of God. Since God made an adversary (satan, which just means adversary) to tempt us and to test us (don't know what for either) and describes angels as strange looking critters along with angels that look like us or look enough like us they pass as human.

I think that outer space aliens are just a trap that is going to be used as part of that 'great deception' spoken of in the bible. I no longer believe in a star trek world where other planets are inhabited and we can just migrate to one and build a station or whatever. Terraform the place. I no longer believe that man is suppose to leave this planet, just like I don't think the angels are suppose to leave theirs. http://www.web-ministry.com/Enoch/enoch.php

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/201406260...y-s-aliens
Snippets: According to scripture demons look for bodies to possess. They prefer humans but we also know from scripture that they they can possess pigs....(as they were once human, a small species of Hominid called hobbits), spliced with the DNA of wild Boars... Jews practiced exorcisms of demons before the time of Jesus. According to the gospels Jesus delivered many people from demons. The Bible identifies them as disembodied spirits. The belief in reincarnation originates from demon spirits leaving one life form to occupy another. These disembodied spirits have roamed the earth and have possessed people since the great flood.

During the 3000 years that most of these demons were cut off from the breath of Life, they could only watch, with the modern age, the idea of Reincarnation, which was deemed 'Anathema' by the Councils of Nicea, once again took a foothold (Do not give Satan a foothold), as the Ancient Chinese proverb, "give the devil half a chance he'll come up and get you."

So it is through reincarnation that these demons started to once again snatch up the flesh and be part of the physical history of the earth once more...

However they could never be just 'normal' human beings...they are of superior flesh, (LIE) they know more than us (LIE), they are from distant galaxies (LIE) and this is why they must be called A LIE N. They LIE in wait...to take over this world, and destroy mankind and Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

This facade of the ruling elite is about to be unleashed upon mankind. An awakening heretofore never experienced upon the minds of the population of the earth.

We know that this Lie has been perpetrated and kept before Humanity for the past half century, through every media known to man...Governments deny it, while spending trillions to put the alien image before humanity as a story, a program, a contact, an encounter, magazines, movies, TV shows.....they have prepared us for this great lie that is about to be told!! It has happily been drummed into the sheeple, there will be no resistance!

Many today are buying into the facade that there are aliens from other worlds or dimensions visiting us here on earth. The facade the world is being indoctrinated with by books, movies and new age/new spirituality teaching is that these are superior beings and that they come from a more highly evolved civilization to help us realize that all are all one and all part of THEM. These beings really are fallen angels and demons who will bring a great deception to all on the earth who reject God's truth.  end snippets......

You could say I am 'Bible, book of Enoch, Jubilees' bias. And this is my thoughts on that. Fall
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