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John Dingell, longest-serving congressman, wants to 'abolish the Senate'
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When our Founders came up with this modified form of government,
they did not expect people to hang around D.C. forever. Times changed.
The lawmakers get to vote on their pay raise. Over the decades they
are automatically part of the 1% ...even newbies. Add to it a Cadillac
health insurance plan and a pension that is like winning the lottery. Those
lobbyists take real good care of our public servants too. The four richest
counties in the USA are all touching D.C. The money and power flow.
The power and wealth are seductive.
You see change voluntarily? I don't. No way they are going to give up
that gravy train. I see a reduction in the size of our bloated, out of control
government like I expect to see Santa come on down my chimney this month.
They dream of a Blue Wave and I pray for a Red Tide.
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Who is John Dingell.......and what is it he knows that everyone is afraid of.....

https://the-fringe.com/thread-john_conye...#pid238728
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(12-05-2018, 05:20 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 05:16 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 04:40 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...5080712910

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Former Democratic Rep. John Dingell, the country’s longest-serving congressman, called Tuesday for the abolishment of the Electoral College and the Senate, arguing against the “disproportionate influence of small states” that paralyzes the lawmaking and electoral processes.

Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015, wrote an op-ed for The Atlantic offering a series of suggestions that he said would restore the public’s trust in the federal government. He called for an end to “minority rule” in Congress, saying it’s “antiquated” and “downright dangerous” that all states get two senators regardless of population.

“California has almost 40 million people, while the 20 smallest states have a combined population totaling less than that. Yet because of an 18th-century political deal, those 20 states have 40 senators, while California has just two,” he wrote. “These sparsely populated, usually conservative states can block legislation supported by a majority of the American people. That’s just plain crazy.”

Yes and the electoral college seems to work fairly well.  There is no reason why people on the left coast and right coast should be controlling what we are doing in fly over land.  They are two different worlds.  And people live completely different lives in these rural areas as compared to cities.  The EC was instituted so that these cities with high populations would not control the rest of the Nation.  Of course these cities I keep mentioning are libtard strong holds.

Ahhh, but I suspect you only think that because it benefited your guy this time...what about next time? Sincere question

I am for it regardless. The reasoning behind it is sound. It would be absolute crap for the three biggest cities in the USA setting policy for everyone else. They try their best to as it is with the 9th circut appeals court. As to the congressman's complaint? He may get his way. We are in the middle of the most serious attempt to replace the form of governance that we have had for 200+ years with a radically different one since the civil war.
"Why don't you just speak with your words instead of your damn dirty lies?"
~Louise Belcher.
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(12-06-2018, 07:46 AM)BadBrad Wrote: When our Founders came up with this modified form of government,
they did not expect people to hang around D.C. forever. Times changed.
The lawmakers get to vote on their pay raise. Over the decades they
are automatically part of the 1% ...even newbies. Add to it a Cadillac
health insurance plan and a pension that is like winning the lottery. Those
lobbyists take real good care of our public servants too. The four richest
counties in the USA are all touching D.C. The money and power flow.
The power and wealth are seductive.
You see change voluntarily? I don't. No way they are going to give up
that gravy train. I see a reduction in the size of our bloated, out of control
government like I expect to see Santa come on down my chimney this month.


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(12-05-2018, 11:48 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 10:42 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 09:49 PM)phxsparks Wrote: I am not a libtard and I don't live in those coastal areas occupied by libtards.  This may sound callous but I don't care about those places or the people who inhabit those cities.  They have nothing in common with me or the rest of the country which is in Flyover country.

So take what I just said and multiply it by 150 million.  That would be approximately half the population of the country.  I'm but an example of how half of the population feels about libtard land.

I'll raise you an idgaf...very little outside of friends, family and my immediate concerns for community interest me. For instance,  what does a beet farmer in N Dakota know about the concerns of a shrimp boat captain in Louisiana? Or vice versa?....I do like to hear other opinions once in a while, but I don't see me changing any time soon, lol.
Bottom line is that the federal government is just too damn big and can't possibly do what liberals want it to do...it can't do what so-called conservatives want it to do either
Well stated.  And the various regions of the country are so divergent in their life styles and their needs.  This is why I think firearms regulations should be left up to the states.  States Rights you know.  What works in Manhattan does not work in Yankton, SD.
Yup. Let New Yorkers give up their social media passwords (or whatever else they choose to give up next) to the state police in order to have what is a constitutional right. Leave the rest of us who aren't as a-skeered of their own shadows and who believe in self imposed temperance be.
"Why don't you just speak with your words instead of your damn dirty lies?"
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John Dingell does not represent the PEOPLE. He only represents Dingellberries.

Quote:dingleberry

1. a foolish or inept person.

2. a particle of fecal matter attached to the anal hair of an animal.

3. Vaccinium erythrocarpum, the southern mountain cranberry.

4. Any residual irregularity following manufacturing.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dingleberry
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Channelization of the Rouge River.
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I keep seeing "Dingbell".
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(12-05-2018, 09:58 PM)Road Glide Wrote: I want term limits so we can show politicians such as him, embedded like a tick in our government, the door after 6 or 8 years.

+ 5 more Likes! THIS is the krap we have been dealing with for too long, 59 years???
Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015
“Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.” (Psalm 51:10)

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(12-06-2018, 07:52 AM)Wingsprint Wrote: Who is John Dingell.......and what is it he knows that everyone is afraid of.....

https://the-fringe.com/thread-john_conye...#pid238728

Flashback

John Dingell, longest serving U.S. representative, to retire...

Wonder why he has been there 58 years....?

Well lets take a close look at the Dingell tenure and it will be evident why....

U.S. Rep. John Dingell, a Dearborn Democrat who replaced his father in the House some 58 years ago and became one of the most powerful members of Congress ever, will step down after this year, capping a career umatched in its longevity and singular in its influence and sweep.

His father was of Polish descent and his mother had Swiss and Scots-Irish ancestry. His father's original surname had been Dzieglewicz....

http://geraldrfordfoundation.org/centenn...n-dingell/

straight from Dingells own mouth...Knew Hale Boggs and Gerald Ford very well...

There are stories from the ‘60s when Gerald Ford was Minority Leader and Hale Boggs was his Democratic counterpart. They would debate at the National Press Club and they would drive down together and decide on the way what they were going to debate that day. They would have their debate. And then they’d adjourn and have a drink and their lunch. It was a very civil, very friendly sort of relationship.

Jerry was very much focused on his district and on internal Republican politics.

Jerry was a very good friend....Both were from Michigan...

http://geraldrfordfoundation.org/centenn...n-dingell/

Upon the Michigan lawmaker’s death on December 26, 2006, Representative John Dingell of Michigan, who served with Ford in the House, remembered his friend for the personal qualities that endeared him to so many colleagues from both parties. “Jerry was warm, gentle, friendly, pleasant courteous individual,” Dingell recalled. “He never used bad language, he loved his family, his kids and above all else he loved Betty.”

Any question that Dingell was Gerald Ford's close friend....

http://history.house.gov/HistoricalHighl...0?ret=True

His district was numbered as the 15th District from 1955 to 1965, when redistricting merged it into the Dearborn-based 16th District; in the primary that year, he defeated 16th District incumbent John Lesinski, Jr.

His district includes Ann Arbor...the home of Michigan University...

Attending the University of Michigan as an undergraduate, Ford played center and linebacker for the school's football team[13] and helped the Wolverines to undefeated seasons and national titles in 1932 and 1933.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford

Gerald Ford's real father was Leslie Lynch King, Sr., a wool trader and a son of prominent banker Charles Henry King

Ford's paternal grandfather Charles Henry King paid child support until shortly before his death in 1930

Mother and Jerry she moved to the home of her parents, Levi Addison Gardner and Adele Augusta Ayer in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

According to a 1963 FBI memo released in 2008, Ford secretly provided the FBI with information about two of his fellow commission members, both of whom were unsure with regards to the FBI's conclusions about the assassination...

A December 1963 memo recounts that Ford told FBI Assistant Director Cartha D. DeLoach that two members remained unconvinced that Kennedy had been shot from the sixth floor window of the Texas Book Depository. In addition, three commission members "failed to understand" the trajectory of the slugs, Ford said.

Does anyone think Ford spoke to Dingell about the Warren Report...maybe to say...if I disappear or Die mysteriously tell everyone this....the truth....

I would want someone to know all Warren Commission data in case I disappeared...

Does anyone remember they tried to kill Ford twice within a three week period...

They wanted him dead too...he knew too much....

Does anyone one wonder why Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme and Sara Jane Moore were parolled finally...

http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2008/08/ger...d-fbi.html

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Well how about Hale Boggs....This story is a thread in itself....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs

In April 1971 he made a speech on the floor of the House in which he strongly attacked FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and the whole of the FBI. This led to a conversation on April 6, 1971, between then-President Richard M. Nixon and the Republican minority leader, Gerald R. Ford, Jr., in which Nixon said that he could no longer take counsel from Boggs as a senior member of Congress. In the recording of this call, Nixon is heard to ask Ford to arrange for the House delegation to include an alternative to Boggs. Ford speculates that Boggs is on pills as well as alcohol.

In 1972, while he was still Majority Leader, the twin engine airplane in which Boggs was traveling disappeared over a remote section of Alaska. The airplane presumably crashed and was never found. Congressman Nick Begich was also presumed killed in the same accident.

The events surrounding Boggs's death have been the subject of much speculation, suspicion, and numerous conspiracy theories. These theories often center on his membership on the Warren Commission. Boggs dissented from the Warren Commission's majority who supported the single bullet theory. Regarding the single-bullet theory, Boggs commented, "I had strong doubts about it." In the 1979 novel The Matarese Circle, author Robert Ludlum portrayed Boggs as having been killed to stop his investigation of the Kennedy assassination.

Boggs may now have know that after his buddy Ford and others attacking him...that he had to spill the story before they killed him too....was Begich a person Boggs could be talking to....I dont think the Elites could take that chance...the story had to be stopped and now Nixon and Kissinger are involved among many others such a Bush because he was in the CIA...any of this starting to sound familiar...

I suspect Both Ford and Boggs knew the truth and the Elites had to get rid of the both or silence them forever somehow...for sure...obviously Boggs wasnt going for it..

Of course Boggs Plane went down and Begich and Boggs were never found...

Cokie Roberts....Review...I dare you I spent a week looking thru her story...

Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claiborne Roberts (née Boggs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlen_Specter

Specter also will take you a week to really understand all the connections...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dingell

Who bets John Conyer's has some stories about Dingell...

He is currently the second longest-serving incumbent member of the House, after fellow Michigan Democratic Congressman John Dingell and the second-longest incumbent member of the entire Congress by length of service, also after Dingell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Conyers


Dingell's "bread crumb" Career leads to one thing...

He knows the truth....and is untouchable...

because somewhere he may have the truth stashed....

Like Arlen Specter was untouchable he even flip flopped parties to keep his job...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

Committee

Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States (chairman) (1891–1974)
Richard Russell, Jr. (D-Georgia), U.S. Senator, (1897–1971)
John Sherman Cooper (R-Kentucky), U.S. Senator (1901–1991)
Hale Boggs (D-Louisiana), U.S. Representative, House Majority Leader (1914–1973)
Gerald Ford (R-Michigan), U.S. Representative (later 38th President of the United States), House Minority Leader (1913-2006)
Allen Welsh Dulles, former Director of Central Intelligence and head of the Central Intelligence Agency (1893–1969)
John J. McCloy, former President of the World Bank (1895–1989)

General counsel

J. Lee Rankin (1907-1996)

Assistant counsel

Francis William Holbrooke Adams (1904-1990)
Joseph A. Ball (1902-2000)
David W. Belin (1928-1999)
William T. Coleman, Jr. (1920-)
Melvin Aron Eisenberg
Burt W. Griffin
Leon D. Hubert, Jr.
Albert E. Jenner, Jr. (1907-1988)
Wesley J. Liebeler
Norman Redlich (1925-2011)
W. David Slawson
Arlen Specter (1930-2012)
Samuel A. Stern
Howard P. Willens (liaison)

Staff

Philip Barson
Edward A. Conroy
John Hart Ely (1938-2003)
Alfred Goldberg
Murray J. Laulicht
Arthur J. Marmor
Richard M. Mosk (1939-)
John J. O'Brien (1919-2001)
Stuart R. Pollak (1937-)
Alfredda Scobey
Charles N. Shaffer, Jr.
Lloyd L. Weinreb (1936-)


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