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John Dingell, longest-serving congressman, wants to 'abolish the Senate'
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I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...5080712910

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Former Democratic Rep. John Dingell, the country’s longest-serving congressman, called Tuesday for the abolishment of the Electoral College and the Senate, arguing against the “disproportionate influence of small states” that paralyzes the lawmaking and electoral processes.

Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015, wrote an op-ed for The Atlantic offering a series of suggestions that he said would restore the public’s trust in the federal government. He called for an end to “minority rule” in Congress, saying it’s “antiquated” and “downright dangerous” that all states get two senators regardless of population.

“California has almost 40 million people, while the 20 smallest states have a combined population totaling less than that. Yet because of an 18th-century political deal, those 20 states have 40 senators, while California has just two,” he wrote. “These sparsely populated, usually conservative states can block legislation supported by a majority of the American people. That’s just plain crazy.”
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(12-05-2018, 04:40 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...5080712910

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Former Democratic Rep. John Dingell, the country’s longest-serving congressman, called Tuesday for the abolishment of the Electoral College and the Senate, arguing against the “disproportionate influence of small states” that paralyzes the lawmaking and electoral processes.

Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015, wrote an op-ed for The Atlantic offering a series of suggestions that he said would restore the public’s trust in the federal government. He called for an end to “minority rule” in Congress, saying it’s “antiquated” and “downright dangerous” that all states get two senators regardless of population.

“California has almost 40 million people, while the 20 smallest states have a combined population totaling less than that. Yet because of an 18th-century political deal, those 20 states have 40 senators, while California has just two,” he wrote. “These sparsely populated, usually conservative states can block legislation supported by a majority of the American people. That’s just plain crazy.”

Yes and the electoral college seems to work fairly well. There is no reason why people on the left coast and right coast should be controlling what we are doing in fly over land. They are two different worlds. And people live completely different lives in these rural areas as compared to cities. The EC was instituted so that these cities with high populations would not control the rest of the Nation. Of course these cities I keep mentioning are libtard strong holds.
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(12-05-2018, 05:16 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 04:40 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...5080712910

Excerpt:


Former Democratic Rep. John Dingell, the country’s longest-serving congressman, called Tuesday for the abolishment of the Electoral College and the Senate, arguing against the “disproportionate influence of small states” that paralyzes the lawmaking and electoral processes.

Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015, wrote an op-ed for The Atlantic offering a series of suggestions that he said would restore the public’s trust in the federal government. He called for an end to “minority rule” in Congress, saying it’s “antiquated” and “downright dangerous” that all states get two senators regardless of population.

“California has almost 40 million people, while the 20 smallest states have a combined population totaling less than that. Yet because of an 18th-century political deal, those 20 states have 40 senators, while California has just two,” he wrote. “These sparsely populated, usually conservative states can block legislation supported by a majority of the American people. That’s just plain crazy.”

Yes and the electoral college seems to work fairly well.  There is no reason why people on the left coast and right coast should be controlling what we are doing in fly over land.  They are two different worlds.  And people live completely different lives in these rural areas as compared to cities.  The EC was instituted so that these cities with high populations would not control the rest of the Nation.  Of course these cities I keep mentioning are libtard strong holds.

Ahhh, but I suspect you only think that because it benefited your guy this time...what about next time? Sincere question
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(12-05-2018, 04:40 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite
Lmao

I think having the Senate and the House are fine, I just wish they would do their job. Stop playing politics and start representing the people who sent them to DC.
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(12-05-2018, 05:20 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 05:16 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 04:40 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...5080712910

Excerpt:


Former Democratic Rep. John Dingell, the country’s longest-serving congressman, called Tuesday for the abolishment of the Electoral College and the Senate, arguing against the “disproportionate influence of small states” that paralyzes the lawmaking and electoral processes.

Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015, wrote an op-ed for The Atlantic offering a series of suggestions that he said would restore the public’s trust in the federal government. He called for an end to “minority rule” in Congress, saying it’s “antiquated” and “downright dangerous” that all states get two senators regardless of population.

“California has almost 40 million people, while the 20 smallest states have a combined population totaling less than that. Yet because of an 18th-century political deal, those 20 states have 40 senators, while California has just two,” he wrote. “These sparsely populated, usually conservative states can block legislation supported by a majority of the American people. That’s just plain crazy.”

Yes and the electoral college seems to work fairly well.  There is no reason why people on the left coast and right coast should be controlling what we are doing in fly over land.  They are two different worlds.  And people live completely different lives in these rural areas as compared to cities.  The EC was instituted so that these cities with high populations would not control the rest of the Nation.  Of course these cities I keep mentioning are libtard strong holds.

Ahhh, but I suspect you only think that because it benefited your guy this time...what about next time? Sincere question

We require new citizens to take a test on government affairs before we
allow them to raise their hand and become a U.S. citizen. We do not require
congress critters and Senators to take any sort of government knowledge
test to be sworn into office.
** granted, I know they do on the job training with the other Congressional
pirates on : graft, conflict of interest, inside trading information, paying
off sexual harassment claims, etc.**
John Dingle. DUH! Case and point. The Constitution would never have been
ratified if the small States did not have reasonable leverage. Why would they
play a 'suckers' game? The House was to be for the common citizen to serve
for 2 year hitches. The Senate was to a more stately body with a 6 year hitch BUT
THE SENATORS WERE TO BE SELECTED BY THEIR STATE'S LEGISLATURES.
A constitutional amendment changed that radically in the early 1900's to another
popular style vote. Big difference.
*My point is: the way it is now set up, we might just as well drop one
body or the other. I would rather go back the OLD way as it better
reflects a representational government.*
The Electoral College works just fine, Spanky. Same principle as the OLD Senate.
Everyone has voice & vote as opposed to just the powerful. A better concern is
about all the damn in your faced cheating going on in many States concerning elections.
So few give a shit. The system will not survive. Democracy in its pure form is one step ahead of mob rule.
They dream of a Blue Wave and I pray for a Red Tide.
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(12-05-2018, 05:20 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 05:16 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 04:40 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: I want the house abolished. So we're kind of the opposite



https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...5080712910

Excerpt:


Former Democratic Rep. John Dingell, the country’s longest-serving congressman, called Tuesday for the abolishment of the Electoral College and the Senate, arguing against the “disproportionate influence of small states” that paralyzes the lawmaking and electoral processes.

Mr. Dingell, who represented Michigan for more than 59 years from 1955 to 2015, wrote an op-ed for The Atlantic offering a series of suggestions that he said would restore the public’s trust in the federal government. He called for an end to “minority rule” in Congress, saying it’s “antiquated” and “downright dangerous” that all states get two senators regardless of population.

“California has almost 40 million people, while the 20 smallest states have a combined population totaling less than that. Yet because of an 18th-century political deal, those 20 states have 40 senators, while California has just two,” he wrote. “These sparsely populated, usually conservative states can block legislation supported by a majority of the American people. That’s just plain crazy.”

Yes and the electoral college seems to work fairly well.  There is no reason why people on the left coast and right coast should be controlling what we are doing in fly over land.  They are two different worlds.  And people live completely different lives in these rural areas as compared to cities.  The EC was instituted so that these cities with high populations would not control the rest of the Nation.  Of course these cities I keep mentioning are libtard strong holds.

Ahhh, but I suspect you only think that because it benefited your guy this time...what about next time? Sincere question

I am not a libtard and I don't live in those coastal areas occupied by libtards. This may sound callous but I don't care about those places or the people who inhabit those cities. They have nothing in common with me or the rest of the country which is in Flyover country.

So take what I just said and multiply it by 150 million. That would be approximately half the population of the country. I'm but an example of how half of the population feels about libtard land.
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#7
I want term limits so we can show politicians such as him, embedded like a tick in our government, the door after 6 or 8 years.

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#8
That's a switch.
For a long while there some were planting ideas of abolishing the Congress with their rhetoric.
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(12-05-2018, 09:49 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 05:20 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 05:16 PM)phxsparks Wrote: Yes and the electoral college seems to work fairly well.  There is no reason why people on the left coast and right coast should be controlling what we are doing in fly over land.  They are two different worlds.  And people live completely different lives in these rural areas as compared to cities.  The EC was instituted so that these cities with high populations would not control the rest of the Nation.  Of course these cities I keep mentioning are libtard strong holds.

Ahhh, but I suspect you only think that because it benefited your guy this time...what about next time? Sincere question

I am not a libtard and I don't live in those coastal areas occupied by libtards.  This may sound callous but I don't care about those places or the people who inhabit those cities.  They have nothing in common with me or the rest of the country which is in Flyover country.

So take what I just said and multiply it by 150 million.  That would be approximately half the population of the country.  I'm but an example of how half of the population feels about libtard land.

I'll raise you an idgaf...very little outside of friends, family and my immediate concerns for community interest me. For instance,  what does a beet farmer in N Dakota know about the concerns of a shrimp boat captain in Louisiana? Or vice versa?....I do like to hear other opinions once in a while, but I don't see me changing any time soon, lol.
Bottom line is that the federal government is just too damn big and can't possibly do what liberals want it to do...it can't do what so-called conservatives want it to do either
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

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(12-05-2018, 10:42 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 09:49 PM)phxsparks Wrote:
(12-05-2018, 05:20 PM)Octopus Prime Wrote: Ahhh, but I suspect you only think that because it benefited your guy this time...what about next time? Sincere question

I am not a libtard and I don't live in those coastal areas occupied by libtards.  This may sound callous but I don't care about those places or the people who inhabit those cities.  They have nothing in common with me or the rest of the country which is in Flyover country.

So take what I just said and multiply it by 150 million.  That would be approximately half the population of the country.  I'm but an example of how half of the population feels about libtard land.

I'll raise you an idgaf...very little outside of friends, family and my immediate concerns for community interest me. For instance,  what does a beet farmer in N Dakota know about the concerns of a shrimp boat captain in Louisiana? Or vice versa?....I do like to hear other opinions once in a while, but I don't see me changing any time soon, lol.
Bottom line is that the federal government is just too damn big and can't possibly do what liberals want it to do...it can't do what so-called conservatives want it to do either

I'm afraid it's a run away train Prime. The only thing that will stop it is something that no one want's to deal with and it just might set this Country back 100+ years.

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