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I'm so tired of hypocrisy. I am Pro-life and against Capital Punishment.
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(06-08-2019, 03:39 PM)Debauchery Wrote:
(06-06-2019, 05:15 PM)Hazmat Wrote:
(06-06-2019, 05:08 PM)unclelunatic Wrote: In Cali you cannot declaw a cat, which makes sense - yet you can abort a child, which makes no sense

The hypocrisy happening nowadays truly blows my mind.

You can declaw a cat but it will cost you. The cost of aborting an innocent child will be much much higher on judgement day.

I get your message though...loud and clear, my 2 cents as always...

I should declaw my cat. Motherfucker is trying to destroy several thousand dollars worth of furniture.

Anyway..I'm for killing certain criminals and I am against abortion. The reasons should be obvious. Not all life is equal, not every human life is precious, some people are shit and deserve to die.

Agreed on all points
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(06-08-2019, 03:46 PM)Debauchery Wrote:
(06-07-2019, 09:13 AM)Hamburger Wagon Wrote: I've enjoyed all your responses.

I think there are valid reasons to have an abortion, like if the baby is obviously not viable due to serious deformations, and I mean serious deformations like organs on the outside or something.

As far as housing prisoners, there are far to many people in prison that probably don't need to be, and people that should be that have been let go, which is another issue.  I would love my tax money to go to housing a child molester in an 8 ft cell with no windows, no tv, no nothing except walls to stare at for the rest of his life.  No gym, no outside play, no cafeteria, no friends, no nothing.  Just walls and a slot that your food comes through.  That is how prison should be for them and they can rot in there until they off themselves.  I feel like that is a better punishment that ending their life.

Unfortunately you wanting prisoners to suffer and have no tv, no outdoor activities and so on and so forth doesn't make it so. They are treated better than our veterans, our elderly, and that will NEVER change.

The death penalty should be about eliminating the risk. Period. Child sex predators for instance always get out, when they should be executed. Same with serial killers, cold blooded killers, people who are clearly dangerous.

On top of that their lives aren't worth anything, not a single penny should go to feed them or house them, they shouldn't be receiving healthcare, they should be dead.

Abortion and the death penalty are two completely different things. On one hand you have an innocent life, on the other you have a man who likes to violently rape those innocent lives. Both are not worthy of life. Only the one is. I think we know which one that is.

This bullshit about all lives being precious is exactly that..sickening bullshit, it's a lie.

Then there are the prison guards with their high suicide rates who have to look a those monsters day in and day out. The psychological damage would become unbearable.  

So just hog tie the degenerates, let them writhe around a bit in the dirt, then pop their heads like a pimple with the bucket of a Cat front loader.
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#33
I've never known a baby that deserved to die, but I have known many a son of a bitch that needed killin'.
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#34
Takes a lot of tax dollars to keep a rapist or pedo in PC.  

Makes no sense.
We don't need their vibration on the planet.

Each to their own.
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https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/stat...0967169024

They're still doing it though...

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/US-e...962586.php
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(06-06-2019, 05:22 PM)Bubbles Wrote: Abortion at the early stages is fine..

We don’t have capital punishment in OZ, I would like to bring it back. Hangings..

Not in my opinion.

Gestational Age Week 6 (Fetal age: 4 weeks) Between 5 ½ to 6 ½ weeks, a fetal pole or even a fetal heartbeat may be detected by vaginal ultrasound. ... The fetal pole now allows for crown to rump measurements (CRL) to be taken, so that pregnancy dating can be a bit more accurate.
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(06-08-2019, 06:12 PM)St. Blue Dude Wrote: HB, you are making us think again.  

Abortion is tough one.   A woman should have a right to control her body.   A person who believes that human life is a miracle and that that miracle is the true basis upon which the sacrament of marriage is built, has a right to act poltically on his belief that Abortion is murder.  

Living in a society, we need to reconcile those two contradictions.   Our society has gone too far towards unfettered abortions, and we know this because there are just under 1,000,000 every year.    So, people that always bring up rape and abnormalities as a cushion toward justification are blinded to the reality that most of these abortions are a convenience.

So. Is it wrong to curtail abortion and simply expect women to abide by societal conventions to some extent?
1. Engage in sex in a responsible fashion.   Use birth control.  
2. If you fail to use birth control.  Use morning after pills. (which I believe are like up til 10 days afterward).
3. if you don't, then you need to have an abortion at an early stage before there is a legitimate argument that can be made toward a fetus's humanity.

That is just responsible citizenship.  But 1,000,000 abortions a year is simply the idea that we've given up expecting citizens to be civic minded adults.   (Which is exactly what liberalism posits at its core.)

I would not be against Capital Punishment, if it was carried out against the criminal in the immediate aftermath of his crime (and under the assumption that there is no question of guilt.)  In that case, you can argue it is a deterrent.   But to allow someone to sit in a prison for 12 years seems cruel, and the person you are executing is sometimes no longer the same person that committed the atrocity.

God forbid prison be cruel and long term. Lmao


The sick fucks need to sit with their thoughts for a while and even if they change who they are, which I highly doubt, they did the crime and they can deal with the punishment. There is no place for mercy or compassion when it comes to certain crimes/criminals.
I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.

Debauchery
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#38
What a tangled web we weave......you know the rest.
"Why don't you try speaking in words instead of your damn dirty lies?"
~Louise Belcher
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#39
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https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/stat...0967169024

They're still doing it though...

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/US-e...962586.php
Waaaaay too many bureaucrats in the executive branch just ignoring what our President says and doing whatever they want to do. To topic....I don't claim to be pro life. I am not. There are crimes worthy of death. I do dig you bringing up the hypocrisy of "pro life" vs "anti abortion" though. One is about killing the innocent. The other is about killing the guilty. Where law says, "heinous enough to merit death". And there really aren't that many folks on death row who actually get put to death, if you want to be honest. A majority spend life on death row and die there before they are executed.
"Why don't you try speaking in words instead of your damn dirty lies?"
~Louise Belcher
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(06-09-2019, 11:04 PM)Debauchery Wrote:
(06-08-2019, 06:12 PM)St. Blue Dude Wrote: HB, you are making us think again.  

Abortion is tough one.   A woman should have a right to control her body.   A person who believes that human life is a miracle and that that miracle is the true basis upon which the sacrament of marriage is built, has a right to act poltically on his belief that Abortion is murder.  

Living in a society, we need to reconcile those two contradictions.   Our society has gone too far towards unfettered abortions, and we know this because there are just under 1,000,000 every year.    So, people that always bring up rape and abnormalities as a cushion toward justification are blinded to the reality that most of these abortions are a convenience.

So. Is it wrong to curtail abortion and simply expect women to abide by societal conventions to some extent?
1. Engage in sex in a responsible fashion.   Use birth control.  
2. If you fail to use birth control.  Use morning after pills. (which I believe are like up til 10 days afterward).
3. if you don't, then you need to have an abortion at an early stage before there is a legitimate argument that can be made toward a fetus's humanity.

That is just responsible citizenship.  But 1,000,000 abortions a year is simply the idea that we've given up expecting citizens to be civic minded adults.   (Which is exactly what liberalism posits at its core.)

I would not be against Capital Punishment, if it was carried out against the criminal in the immediate aftermath of his crime (and under the assumption that there is no question of guilt.)  In that case, you can argue it is a deterrent.   But to allow someone to sit in a prison for 12 years seems cruel, and the person you are executing is sometimes no longer the same person that committed the atrocity.

God forbid prison be cruel and long term.  Lmao


The sick fucks need to sit with their thoughts for a while and even if they change who they are, which I highly doubt, they did the crime and they can deal with the punishment. There is no place for mercy or compassion when it comes to certain crimes/criminals.

I didn't mean to express that the prison was the cruelty. It is the execution of a person who may have become someone very different. I know at 21 I was a very different person than the man I was at 38. I take the point of execution to be deterrence of others from committing capitol offenses, you seem to be taking it to be vengeance. For me, if someone commits a horrific crime, is tried, found guilty, there is no question as to their guilt, and they can be executed for that crime 6 months later, others see it for what it was. The evil bastard got what he deserved. If you wait 15 years, all that is lost. A forgotten [to the public] crime, from another time, concluded with the State killing of some man who did something bad 16 years ago does not seem to deter anything.
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