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I don't believe this Christchurch Massacre was Real - not just False Flag, but a Hoax*MERGED*
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(03-16-2019, 08:41 AM)Siriusly Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 07:24 AM)Munchaab Wrote: When I said "Heads Exploding" I didn't mean Hollywood style - I meant the bullet fragmenting and blowing out portions of the scull on exit causing the movement of clothing and hats that were evident...

This was REAL - and appalling - no one should be shot in a barrel  - I don't care for ANY religion, but I will fight to the death, your right to peacefully worship in the way you feel most fitting...

It's time to licence protectors of peaceful worship - open carry for Christians defending Mosques, Muslims defending Churches etc...

We could do this in the UK also and  - train, qualify and licence - people with air guns to protect places of worship as they pray...

You shouldn't need to be armed to be licenced and contribute - but for those with the equipment and the skills it should be licenced and allowed to open carry also...

All due respect Munchaab - let's not go overboard here....

The Muslim communities are quite capable of forming their own militias to protect their mosques as Christians are to protect their churches.

To each their own.

Not trying to be overboard...

Trying to think if ALL Muslims want to pray then Christians and/or others defend them as they do...

If ALL Christians want to pray then Muslims and/or others protect them as they do...

This will make it clear to shit heads that if you want to hurt a religion you hate - you have to come through those you don't hate to do it!

It's about LOVE and respect not about anything but defending constitutionally protected rights...
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(03-16-2019, 03:37 AM)Munchaab Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 03:29 AM)Mehitable Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 03:25 AM)Munchaab Wrote: I built up the stomach to watch the video as I knew some - FAKE - thread like this would pop up...

There is NO WAY that was fake unless astonishing CGI was used - try that in "Real Time"...

Panning around shows no others were there to enact the special effects for twitching bodies, exploding heads and hats flying off...

There would be little blood (initially) for a victim killed instantly as the heart stops and blood only seeps not gush...

As you see the victims in the door way are lying in a very large pool of blood when the perp re-enters the front of the mosque...


I obviously disagree with you and gave very specific reasons for doing so.  I think people ARE going to have to review this video THEMSELVES personally and come to their own conclusions.  I would just ask that people do this with as little emotion as possible and consider that this may very well be a hoax.  Think of what you would expect to see in such a massacre and how people normally act and then look at this and see if it fits that.  At least it's something that can - and should - be debated.  We have had MANY false flags and outright hoaxes over the years and should not be surprised to see another one, even if it's staged in a more spectacular manner or with more sensational news propaganda.

Oh, there are a bunch of weird things happening that a sane person would not expect - you I understand people questioning this...

Mosque goers huddled into corners - not what I would do or where I'd go to hide - an inescapable corner like a frightened rat...

He shoots the place up - killing most probably - complains he doesn't have time to burn the place down, then wastes time double checking victims - if he forgot the lighter he should know he ca ignite gas with a few bullet rounds...

Shooting through he of screen and passenger window and also seeming to waste a bunch of ammo shooting down the streets and alley ways AND complaining he'd dropped a bunch of magazines...

These things are ALL strange to me - but there is no doubt (at this point from what I've seen and read) in my mind that those poor people were viciously and needlessly murdered.

No doubt in my my mind as well.

And FF's dont mean 'FAKE/HOAX"...

People get massacred in FF's generally.

The "Please help me" Lady's cerebellum splatter was very clear...on my tiny phone screen..as well as entry door persons ocean of blood and the split second splatter of the poor guys upper body that got hit point blank as he tried to slip by the shooter...
I wont go on...
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(03-16-2019, 08:48 AM)Mmmmkay_Ultra Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 03:37 AM)Munchaab Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 03:29 AM)Mehitable Wrote: I obviously disagree with you and gave very specific reasons for doing so.  I think people ARE going to have to review this video THEMSELVES personally and come to their own conclusions.  I would just ask that people do this with as little emotion as possible and consider that this may very well be a hoax.  Think of what you would expect to see in such a massacre and how people normally act and then look at this and see if it fits that.  At least it's something that can - and should - be debated.  We have had MANY false flags and outright hoaxes over the years and should not be surprised to see another one, even if it's staged in a more spectacular manner or with more sensational news propaganda.

Oh, there are a bunch of weird things happening that a sane person would not expect - you I understand people questioning this...

Mosque goers huddled into corners - not what I would do or where I'd go to hide - an inescapable corner like a frightened rat...

He shoots the place up - killing most probably - complains he doesn't have time to burn the place down, then wastes time double checking victims - if he forgot the lighter he should know he ca ignite gas with a few bullet rounds...

Shooting through he of screen and passenger window and also seeming to waste a bunch of ammo shooting down the streets and alley ways AND complaining he'd dropped a bunch of magazines...

These things are ALL strange to me - but there is no doubt (at this point from what I've seen and read) in my mind that those poor people were viciously and needlessly murdered.

No doubt in my my mind as well.

And FF's dont mean 'FAKE/HOAX"...

People get massacred in FF's generally.

The "Please help me" Lady's cerebellum splatter was very clear...on my tiny phone screen..as well as entry door persons ocean of blood and the split second splatter of the poor guys upper body that got hit point blank as he tried to slip by the shooter...
I wont go on...

I was in Turkey when I was reading "The Rise and Fall of the Bush Family" - It's not a book that likes the Bushes - but a guy (Turk) I love said "I hate that Guy!" - he then told me something I did not know...

It regards False Flag - Germans, put Russian flags on tanks and fired into the Newly formed Turkish Republic, hoping to bring Turkey into the WWII on the side of Germany/Nazis - they saw through it destroyed the tanks and remained OUT of WWII...

Cheer


False Flag means the wrong person is supposed to be blamed - NOT that no-one died....
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(03-16-2019, 08:55 AM)Munchaab Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 08:48 AM)Mmmmkay_Ultra Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 03:37 AM)Munchaab Wrote: Oh, there are a bunch of weird things happening that a sane person would not expect - you I understand people questioning this...

Mosque goers huddled into corners - not what I would do or where I'd go to hide - an inescapable corner like a frightened rat...

He shoots the place up - killing most probably - complains he doesn't have time to burn the place down, then wastes time double checking victims - if he forgot the lighter he should know he ca ignite gas with a few bullet rounds...

Shooting through he of screen and passenger window and also seeming to waste a bunch of ammo shooting down the streets and alley ways AND complaining he'd dropped a bunch of magazines...

These things are ALL strange to me - but there is no doubt (at this point from what I've seen and read) in my mind that those poor people were viciously and needlessly murdered.

No doubt in my my mind as well.

And FF's dont mean 'FAKE/HOAX"...

People get massacred in FF's generally.

The "Please help me" Lady's cerebellum splatter was very clear...on my tiny phone screen..as well as entry door persons ocean of blood and the split second splatter of the poor guys upper body that got hit point blank as he tried to slip by the shooter...
I wont go on...

I was in Turkey when I was reading "The Rise and Fall of the Bush Family" - It's not a book that likes the Bushes - but a guy (Turk) I love said "I hate that Guy!" - he then told me something I did not know...

It regards False Flag - Germans, put Russian flags on tanks and fired into the Newly formed Turkish Republic, hoping to bring Turkey into the WWII on the side of Germany/Nazis - they saw through it destroyed the tanks and remained OUT of WWII...

Cheer


False Flag means the wrong person is supposed to be blamed - NOT that no-one died....

I have always understood what the point of False Flag was since long before hearing/registering that term the first time sometime in the very early 90's.. but never ever after all these years have I heard the origin of the reference!!!
Thank you!
Makes perfect sense now.
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(03-16-2019, 03:25 AM)Munchaab Wrote: I built up the stomach to watch the video as I knew some - FAKE - thread like this would pop up...

There is NO WAY that was fake unless astonishing CGI was used - try that in "Real Time"...

Panning around shows no others were there to enact the special effects for twitching bodies, exploding heads and hats flying off...

There would be little blood (initially) for a victim killed instantly as the heart stops and blood only seeps not gush...

As you see the victims in the door way are lying in a very large pool of blood when the perp re-enters the front of the mosque...

Same hear, i knew people were going say its fake, so i went and watch it too. Horrific stuff.

I had to go to Russian website to find it, as the western internet has scrub it off, which i think is a mistake now people going start saying its fake.
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(03-16-2019, 09:00 AM)Nordway Wrote:
(03-16-2019, 03:25 AM)Munchaab Wrote: I built up the stomach to watch the video as I knew some - FAKE - thread like this would pop up...

There is NO WAY that was fake unless astonishing CGI was used - try that in "Real Time"...

Panning around shows no others were there to enact the special effects for twitching bodies, exploding heads and hats flying off...

There would be little blood (initially) for a victim killed instantly as the heart stops and blood only seeps not gush...

As you see the victims in the door way are lying in a very large pool of blood when the perp re-enters the front of the mosque...

Same hear, i knew people were going say its fake, so i went and watch it too. Horrific stuff.

I had to go to Russian website to find it, as the western internet has scrub it off, which i think is a mistake now people going start saying its fake.

I wish it was fake - ALL of those poor souls killed like fish in a barrel - I have no love for extremism or bigotry of any kind...

I lived with Muslims for a couple of years in Turkey and they were the most welcoming and hospitable of ANY nation I have had the good fortune to visit - when I talked to them (AND TALK I DID - I DON'T SHUT UP) about Islamism they ALL stated - they are not Muslims, they speak for and act on behalf of god then they are not Muslim - Surrendered to god...

Muslim means "Surrendered to God" - Islamists take it upon themselves to speak and act for God - THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS - THEY ARE SCUM....

Decent Muslims are everywhere - don't forget that - I wish they spoke up as much as Tommy Robinson to defend him and the correct view - but they are scared of being called apostates...

When (like is happening now with blacks joining #walkaway #Blexit from the Dems) Muslims feel they need to fight for right not wrong - you may all be surprised how many join ranks with us not the foul Commie Left...
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#27
All I see here are repetitions of it's real, it's real, it's real, blah blah blah. NO, IT'S NOT FUCKING REAL. People, if you all watch this yourselves, you will SEE that it is NOT real and people don't act like that and bullets don't act like that, etc etc.

I notice no one is actually answering the specific points I made in my original post. Just repeatedly asserting that it's "real". That's not good enough.

It's really sad that people will push this psy-op as this is something that could tear our world apart. There is no excuse for this, none. It is critical that people examine this, each for him or herself and that the truth come out. Anyone watching this UNEMOTIONALLY will see that....this is NOT real. It is not a False Flag....IT IS A HOAX.

I've been down this road before with other events. As I say, I am willing to be....ahem...unpopular or hated and reviled, as I have been many times before, especially with the Nice Truck Hoax from a few years back. I'm willing to take the hit because the truth is more important than me and someone has to have the guts to do it. I'm willing to be William Wallace for y'all, because SOMEBODY'S GOT TO.

But most of you on this forum, if you watch this video with NO PRECONCEPTIONS AND NO EMOTIONS (as you cannot react to the programming "it's horrible, it's horrible" - it really isn't, it's far less than the average action movie), you will come to the same conclusion of fakery, especially when you realize that people don't huddle soundlessly in corners while waiting to be shot, especially men, and that this is a mixture of human bodies and dummies, and that if he broke into a real place shooting, there would be pandemonium with people screaming and running everywhere and while he was shooting one room, another would try to flee, or maybe attack him or throw things. Not huddle in a fucking corner.

As for the woman on the street, why is there only ONE woman at this mosque? And there is nothing there that can't be done with movie techniques - we've seen this kind of thing in countless movies. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe she is the only actual victim (I don't see how as I think he's shooting blanks), but I'll wait for the conspiracy professionals to examine this.

I'm not going to debate this endlessly as it's just going to be a case of pile-on, oh it's real, it's horrible, etc. Bullshit. I would ask each of you to look at this video YOURSELF and make up YOUR OWN MIND.
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#28
So should the video look more like this??


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkkehFRV3xI
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(03-16-2019, 10:49 AM)Papa Clutch Wrote: So should the video look more like this??


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkkehFRV3xI


The video should look real, with real people acting in fear and panic and running and screaming and with that many "bullets" there should be blood everywhere including those white white walls. People DON'T just huddle in corners like that and wait to be shot.

This is complete bullshit. Answer the points I made in the original post.

One thing I am particularly curious about is why the gun is flashing when he has it on the floor of his car. It's flashing repeatedly and I didn't know what it was until he stopped the car and took it out and it WAS the gun.

The whole thing is ridiculous. People are making these intense emotional responses based on a video they haven't even seen, based on bullshit that the lying news media and fascist authorities tell them. When will you people learn?
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#30
Meh

Who am i to judge? 1dunno1

I had the same feeling about the charleston shooting.




Carry on



For the record.......
This one to me looks and feels real.







TITOR RIGHT AGAIN! Woot

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