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#11
(07-09-2019, 10:30 AM)Papa Clutch Wrote: I have to ask, are there any Fringer that know about Electrical hookups???

I have a 120/240v gas generator. I get tired of running drop cords all thru the house and back.
Is there any way to hook it up to the houses electrical system without a $400+ “switch”?
I know it is deadly to back feed on to the grid. But if I turn off the main breakers, can I make a safe connection some how?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Cheers

Ask @DaJavoo I think he did something similar during a recent power outage at his place.
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(07-09-2019, 10:30 AM)Papa Clutch Wrote: I have to ask, are there any Fringer that know about Electrical hookups???

I have a 120/240v gas generator. I get tired of running drop cords all thru the house and back.
Is there any way to hook it up to the houses electrical system without a $400+ “switch”?
I know it is deadly to back feed on to the grid. But if I turn off the main breakers, can I make a safe connection some how?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Cheers

Yes.  HOWEVER BOTH OF THESE SOLUTIONS, IF NOT ILLEGAL, ARE HIGHLY DANGEROUS BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK FUCK IT UP AND GET PEOPLE KILLED.

You have to DISCONNECT the MAIN BREAKER at the Power CO. meter.  PLACE A HOLD TAG OR COVER WITH DUCT TAPE AND A NOTE NOT TO MAKE THE BREAKER HOT UNTIL INDOOR WIRING IS RESTORED TO NORMAL.

(YOU MUST DISCONNECT THE OUTSIDE/POWER CO BREAKER OR THE POWER YOU GENERATE WILL BACKFEED THROUGH THE TRANSFORMER AND KILL PEOPLE.)

At that point your home/wiring system is an independent grid.

You'll have to rig a wiring harness (I used two heavy duty extension cords) that plug into the outlets on your generator.   Obviously, the wires will need to be long enough to run from the generator OUTSIDE the home (do not run a generator INSIDE your home) to reach the interior service/distribution panel.

Cut off the female ends, strip back hot/neutral/ground wires.  (This is a generic statement only ~ the outlets/config of your jenny will dictate what's needed, e.g. if electricity from both phases is present at each outlet, etc..

DO NOT OPEN THE INTERIOR SERVICE PANEL UNTIL THE POWER COMPANY BREAKER IS DISCONNECTED!!!!!

At your home's (interior) service panel, remove the cover.  You will need a large allen wrench for the hot & neutral connections.

Connect BOTH GROUND wires to the Ground Lug connector on the electrical bus @ breaker box in your home.

Connect BOTH NEUTRAL wires to the Neutral lug on the electrical bus @ breaker box in your home.

Connect ONE HOT wire to one HOT phase of the electrical bus @ breaker box in your home.

Connect the OTHER HOT wire to the OTHER HOT phase of the electrical bus @ breaker box in your home.

Cover your Electrical panel and ADVISE ALL FAMILY MEMBERS TO STAY AWAY ~ if you have children in the home I would not recommend this.

Start Generator.

Depending on the size of your generator, you might only be able to run one 220v appliance at a time.  Trial and error.

Switch off ALL 240v appliances at the breaker box and try one at a time.

Even with a 2kw to 3kw generator, you will have power to all 110v outlet in the house ~ which means refrigerators, ceiling fans and lights.  Big improvement over extension cords.  You should be able to run at least ONE 'heat' type appliance e.g., coffee maker or microwave/hot plate and still  be able to run the reefers, lights, etc.  Trial & error.

This is a TEMPORARY WORK AROUND ~ DEFINITELY A KLUDGE COB JOB.

Things to consider BEFORE THE POWER GOES OUT:

For a PERMANENT solution you would ALSO OPEN THE INTERIOR SERVICE PANEL DISCONNECT (in addition the power co service panel disconnect.) and install a 40 amp breaker in your panel and BACKFEED from the generator to that breaker (it feeds both legs of the HOT bus.)

This breaker would normally remain DISCONNECTED and connected ONLY when feeding it from the generator.  Of course, you would have to rig the necessary connections OUTSIDE your home to feed the power from your generator to the breaker.  Probably less than $100 for breaker, wiring and exterior outlet connection box (plug).


To do this more safely would requiring spending the few hundred dollars for the TRANSFER SWITCH gear ~ there are different setups for different brands of service panels.


If you are NOT comfortable f'ing with the wiring get an electrician.  The safety and LIVES of your family are more important than being bothered by extension cords.

In my household are two adults who know what's going on and accept the risks.
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Bump East coaster here. I have @RedAuroras contact info. Idk how we are going to play it this year. We are normally stay put and ride it out types but health issues may say otherwise. 1dunno1
I'm starting to speed up on prepping though.JIC. For us, it really heats up in late Aug.-late Sept.
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This is a great time to start the hurricane doom thread.


A broad low pressure system located over the eastern Florida
Panhandle is producing disorganized shower activity. The low is
forecast to move southward to southwestward and emerge over the
northeastern Gulf of Mexico later today. Once the system is over
water, environmental conditions are expected to be conducive for
tropical cyclone formation, and a tropical depression is likely to
develop by late Wednesday or Thursday while the system moves
westward across the northern Gulf of Mexico.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2
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(07-09-2019, 12:38 PM)SoldiersAngel Wrote: Bump East coaster here. I have @RedAuroras contact info. Idk how we are going to play it this year. We are normally stay put and ride it out types but health issues may say otherwise. 1dunno1
I'm starting to speed up on prepping though.JIC. For us, it really heats up in late Aug.-late Sept.

Main thing is to stay safe, if that means bugging out, then so be it. Heartflowers
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(07-09-2019, 09:23 AM)Tolimar Wrote: August, September and October are the worst part of the hurricane season.

Good to have a small radio around.

Image of radio is slightly larger than my radio , if you have a 22in monitor.
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https://www.sony.com/electronics/radios/icf-p26

I have a Sony ICF-P26 AM/FM radio. It's good for listening to the talk radio stations before, during and after a hurricane hits.

You can get the radio in the brick and mortar stores of Walmart and Bestbuy.

Also, the power WILL go out after a hurricane. Make sure to have a bunch of fresh batteries. The rechargeable devices will suffer power loss very fast.

Zello is an app that comes in handy when other forms of communication are down.

https://zello.com/
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(07-09-2019, 09:23 AM)Tolimar Wrote: August, September and October are the worst part of the hurricane season.

Good to have a small radio around.

Image of radio is slightly larger than my radio , if you have a 22in monitor.
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https://www.sony.com/electronics/radios/icf-p26

I have a Sony ICF-P26 AM/FM radio. It's good for listening to the talk radio stations before, during and after a hurricane hits.

You can get the radio in the brick and mortar stores of Walmart and Bestbuy.

Also, the power WILL go out after a hurricane. Make sure to have a bunch of fresh batteries. The rechargeable devices will suffer power loss very fast.

Lol, I have the exact same one. Always keep a load of batteries on hand too. Cheers
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(07-09-2019, 12:38 PM)SoldiersAngel Wrote: Bump East coaster here. I have @RedAuroras contact info. Idk how we are going to play it this year. We are normally stay put and ride it out types but health issues may say otherwise. 1dunno1
I'm starting to speed up on prepping though.JIC. For us, it really heats up in late Aug.-late Sept.

One thing we won't be short on is fresh water. Still stepping around a couple cases from last year plus a couple jerry cans and a bladder made to be filled in the bathtub. And all the other requisite preps. But something tells me it's going to be an easy year. Just a feeling.

In the meantime, y'all take care of yourselves the best you can. Because one thing's for certain...ya jus' neva know!
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(07-09-2019, 01:35 PM)T-Dub Wrote: Lol, I have the exact same one. Always keep a load of batteries on hand too. Cheers

Lmao I've got an old JVC singin' suitcase that I bought in '81 overseas. AM/FM and 4 SW bands. I still use it almost daily in the garage. But the big bastard takes 10 D cells!

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#20
I wish I still had my old 1980s boom box.
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