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#1
By nature I’d say I’m a nice guy however.....These fucking animals need to be rounded up. It’s a serious public health hazard. The ACLU can sukit. How long would they and or a public official work in an office in this shape. Will anything ever be done? Martial Law or ?
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#2
Yea thats pretty disgusting. There is a serious homeless issue here in Central FL. They are all over the place, mostly they live in undeveloped lots around here. A few take up refuge around abandoned buildings. Sad really, not sure what the answer is to fix it. Obviously some are mentally ill, others are Veterans (which pisses me the fuck off) and some I think just dropped out of the rat race and don't GAF. 1dunno1
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#3
Question: is it the hazard to you that bothers you the most or the people living on the streets? The homeless are unsanitary and trash a place up. Our local library used to have an area that the homeless could sit in. The smell was really bad. I was picking up books the other day and noticed that area is gone and they no longer welcome them to come in and get warm. What are we supposed to do about the issue? Some just do not want to abide by the rules of the shelters. I do believe we will have a pandemic in years to come and it will be spread via the homeless. They are everywhere.
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#4
So why not just use common sense and solve the problem by providing bare bones housing located in out of the way areas? The government can put up concrete buildings that would contain small living units. The entire building would be heated and cooled from one thermostat. The units would consist of one room with a small bathroom with a toilet and shower. The kitchen would have a small fridge and a two burner stove. You would get a canvas cot and a blanket.

They would get clean clothing and access to a laundry. One meal a day would be provided. If you screw it up it would be off to prison or a mental institution. There would be mental health counseling and job training available. For those who work hard to take advantage of the counseling and job training perks would be provided. Things like better food or a real cot.

There would be a curfew in place with a two strike policy. Getting a job would be rewarded with a chance to move to a halfway unit with nicer accommodations. For those who suffer mental illness being on medication and taking it as prescribed would be mandatory or it is off to an institution.

I really do think that many of the homeless are people who caught a bad break and fell into a downward spiral that they could not escape from. Months or years of being homeless will cause peoples mental health to deteriorate or they will turn to crime out of desperation. My solution would give such people a place to go and start to rebuild their lives. As it is now once you become homeless there is no way to rebuild a life.
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#5
My life long friend was homeless and lived out of her car. Periodically she would be able to live in a shelter. they have strict rules for the protection of the residents who occupy them. No drinking, don't come in drunk or high. Too many will not observe the essential rules. She lived in fear while present there.

Nothing will work overall with those who cannot or will not observe some form of observing basics????? Some are really sick bas...ds. Some are predators/ And some just cannot cope.
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#6
The rise in numbers of homeless rose dramatically when Western govt's closed mental hospitals & dumped patients onto the street.
Many of them refuse to take their medication.
It's something that is not fair to the patients nor is it for society in general.

The strange thing is that many of the homeless enjoy living on the streets & aren't interested in offers of accommodation. 1dunno1
Many like the freedom of having no responsibilities.

It's an absolute disgrace that veterans have been abandoned to fend for themselves.
PTSD & other psychological issues aren't a new phenomena. In WWI they called PTSD 'shell-shock'.
Send otherwise healthy young men off to war & all will be negatively affected in some way, whether mentally or physically & so will require a lot of support when they return.
Were I an American, I'd be furious at how many have been left to fend for themselves.

At the very least, state govt's could set aside acreage outside of towns for homeless vets. The federal govt. could then supply materials for them to build an amenities block, a community hall & their own individual small cabins.
Set it up so the vets run it for themselves, to set their own rules & to police it inside their compounds.
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(11-08-2019, 02:44 PM)Pope Trollalotta Wrote: So why not just use common sense and solve the problem by providing bare bones housing located in out of the way areas? The government can put up concrete buildings that would contain small living units. The entire building would be heated and cooled from one thermostat. The units would consist of one room with a small bathroom with a toilet and shower. The kitchen would have a small fridge and a two burner stove. You would get a canvas cot and a blanket.

They would get clean clothing and access to a laundry. One meal a day would be provided. If you screw it up it would be off to prison or a mental institution. There would be mental health counseling and job training available. For those who work hard to take advantage of the counseling and job training perks would be provided. Things like better food or a real cot.

There would be a curfew in place with a two strike policy. Getting a job would be rewarded with a chance to move to a halfway unit with nicer accommodations. For those who suffer mental illness being on medication and taking it as prescribed would be mandatory or it is off to an institution.

I really do think that many of the homeless are people who caught a bad break and fell into a downward spiral that they could not escape from. Months or years of being homeless will cause peoples mental health to deteriorate or they will turn to crime out of desperation. My solution would give such people a place to go and start to rebuild their lives. As it is now once you become homeless there is no way to rebuild a life.

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#8
This is such a complicated problem/issue, Bulldozing the homeless into shelters is not going solve this. Treatment for drug addiction and PTSD

for the vets should be top of mind. How do you eat an elephant....????
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(11-08-2019, 06:24 PM)Elric Wrote: The rise in numbers of homeless rose dramatically when Western govt's closed mental hospitals & dumped patients onto the street.
Many of them refuse to take their medication.
It's something that is not fair to the patients nor is it for society in general.

The strange thing is that many of the homeless enjoy living on the streets & aren't interested in offers of accommodation.      1dunno1
Many like the freedom of having no responsibilities.

It's an absolute disgrace that veterans have been abandoned to fend for themselves.
PTSD & other psychological issues aren't a new phenomena. In WWI they called PTSD 'shell-shock'.
Send otherwise healthy young men off to war & all will be negatively affected in some way, whether mentally or physically & so will require a lot of support when they return.
Were I an American, I'd be furious at how many have been left to fend for themselves.

At the very least, state govt's could set aside acreage outside of towns for homeless vets. The federal govt. could then supply materials for them to build an amenities block, a community hall & their own individual small cabins.
Set it up so the vets run it for themselves, to set their own rules & to police it inside their compounds.

It boggles my mind that anyone would prefer to be homeless. Honestly if I were facing homelessness I would eat a bullet just like a friend of mine did.
"White Nationalist" is code for "White person".

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(11-08-2019, 06:50 PM)Pope Trollalotta Wrote:
(11-08-2019, 06:24 PM)Elric Wrote: The rise in numbers of homeless rose dramatically when Western govt's closed mental hospitals & dumped patients onto the street.
Many of them refuse to take their medication.
It's something that is not fair to the patients nor is it for society in general.

The strange thing is that many of the homeless enjoy living on the streets & aren't interested in offers of accommodation.      1dunno1
Many like the freedom of having no responsibilities.

It's an absolute disgrace that veterans have been abandoned to fend for themselves.
PTSD & other psychological issues aren't a new phenomena. In WWI they called PTSD 'shell-shock'.
Send otherwise healthy young men off to war & all will be negatively affected in some way, whether mentally or physically & so will require a lot of support when they return.
Were I an American, I'd be furious at how many have been left to fend for themselves.

At the very least, state govt's could set aside acreage outside of towns for homeless vets. The federal govt. could then supply materials for them to build an amenities block, a community hall & their own individual small cabins.
Set it up so the vets run it for themselves, to set their own rules & to police it inside their compounds.

It boggles my mind that anyone would prefer to be homeless. Honestly if I were facing homelessness I would eat a bullet just like a friend of mine did.

Yeah it's weird.
Talk to anyone who works with the homeless & they'll tell you that many will knock back offers of accommodation.
Many find the streets more interesting. Some can't bear the thought of being alone with their own company & see the safety of four walls and a roof like a prison.

As a kid I spent some time on the street & lived in the Darlinghurst squats in-between homes. Not having hot water for a daily shower was enough to motivate me to find something more suitable.

It's something that most of us will never understand because we're looking at it from our point of view.
Coming home on a crammed peak hour train, a fat, drunk, slovenly guy plonked himself opposite me, drinking soup from a cup that he sprayed whenever he spoke.
Loud & obnoxious, he started moaning about how tough it was to be homeless. Realising that it was a spiel intended to make the train carriage feel bad for him before he passed around his hat to bludge money for more grog, I just as loudly gave him all the reasons why he chose to be homeless.
How he had no responsibilities. How he was able to spend his disability cheque on grog rather than paying bills. I said how I would have loved to go to the pub then & there to down a few beers but I'd spent my money on rent & bills.

As I countered each of his objections, the entire carriage was smiling to themselves. The drunk homeless guy started to smirk himself & did not contradict me when I finished with "If you're homeless it's because you choose to be homeless."
When the train pulled into the next station he slithered off to a different carriage to pull his sob story on a fresh crowd.

The mentally ill & drug/grog addicted find life on the street exciting. Never a dull moment. Many of them see rent & bills as a waste of money that's better spent on their substance of choice.
And more importantly to most of them, they have no responsibilities or obligations on the street.
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