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Duterte: 'West is just double talk, I want more ties with Russia & China’
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This man is an interesting character on the world scene. 

Published on 21 May 2017

The Philippines should have stronger ties with Russia and China, as Western nations are only interested in double talk and disregard Philippines interests, President Rodrigo Duterte told RT and other Russian media ahead of his visit to Moscow. 





Rodrigo Duterte interview: Death, drugs and diplomacy

Published on 15 Oct 2016

It's been about 100 days into the presidency of Rodrigo Duterte. 

Since he took power, the Philippine president has overseen the killing of more than 3,500 people in his war on drugs, offended world leaders and strained relations with the US.

In an exclusive first interview since he was sworn in, we talk to Duterte about his controversial war on drugs and foreign policy - including deteriorating relations with the United States and potentially warming relations with China.

"We have three million drug addicts, and it's growing. So if we do not interdict this problem, the next generation will be having a serious problem ... You destroy my country, I'll kill you. And it's a legitimate thing. If you destroy our young children, I will kill you. That is a very correct statement. There is nothing wrong in trying to preserve the interest of the next generation." 

But Duterte admits that children and innocent people have also been killed in the bloody crackdown, and promises to investigate these extrajudicial killings, but he also says calls them "collateral damage".

When asked about the contested South China Sea, Duterte says: 

"We will not give up anything there; it's an entitlement ... You can only negotiate to prevent a war ... They invited me for talks, and I will go."




No one can resist the truth wrapped in a good joke.

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Yup, well, he has put a huge dent in the drug problem here. It may be that by the time his 6 year term is up he will be the only world leader who can say 'I won the drug war'. With kids it would be good to have them grow up in a drug free country... Thing is, none of it is constitutional of course. They just shoot the people they think are guilty. Its not my country, they have their own way of doing things here.

Regarding befriending China and Russia, well if someone is picking my pocket, like China is the Philippines, I don't knee my friend in the nuts and buddy up to the thief, but again, they have their own way. I really believe its just Duterte. When he's gone things will get back to the way they were. That means the drug problem too unfortunately.
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(05-21-2017, 11:17 AM)CavLancer Wrote: Yup, well, he has put a huge dent in the drug problem here. It may be that by the time his 6 year term is up he will be the only world leader who can say 'I won the drug war'. With kids it would be good to have them grow up in a drug free country... Thing is, none of it is constitutional of course. They just shoot the people they think are guilty. Its not my country, they have their own way of doing things here.

Regarding befriending China and Russia, well if someone is picking my pocket, like China is the Philippines, I don't knee my friend in the nuts and buddy up to the thief, but again, they have their own way. I really believe its just Duterte. When he's gone things will get back to the way they were. That means the drug problem too unfortunately.

I know this is off topic but how is he viewed by the average citizen there?
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Very favorably. He's saving the Philippines from the drug problem basically. He did the same as mayor of Davao which before he got in was the wild west on steroids, crime out of control, citizenry panicing. He left Davao as one of the Philippines safest cities... They only get 6 years here, then out. He does have a daughter however, she's now the new mayor of Davao. That apple didn't fall far from the tree. :)

So yes, the average law abiding citizen is safer now than before. People on the news say they can walk the streets of major cities even at night, where before they could not. If you take drugs off the streets crime drops like a rock. People like that of course, and he's really popular. This country is one of the few whose citizens view the US favorably. So, he's out of touch with that, but the drug war is the big thing to people.

It was amazing to see. Hundreds of thousands of addicts turned themselves in, got cleaned up. My wife went through the nearby city and saw the church was packed during the week, wondered what was up...all were turning themselves in. The country is kicking the habit...amazing really. I'll feel much better sending our kids to college someday if this continues. Of course I'm not one of the innocents getting caught up in it. I'm sure there are some sadly.

For a while Duterte was talking like he'd kick the bucket before his term is out. There was speculation of illness but it might have been that he has a fortune on his head, millions of pesos. About PHP 50 to a USD. Still, a lot of money. Nevertheless he gets on his motorcycle and rides around Manila making sure the traffic is running smoothly. Got guts! Landed hard on a district mayor for roads congested with people selling stuff. Funny story really. Went up to this mayor's security guy with his helmet on, told him he wanted to see the mayor. Security told him he needed an appointment, but when Duterte took off his helmet he was ushered in. Having death squads opens doors.
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Sure he does.  Sure he wants more with China, which last week told the Philippines if they drill for oil and gas in the contest region it's war. 

I wonder how Duarte feels now? 

The US was planning to put their bases back in the Philippines as part of their 'Rule the World program'.

I love the Philippines and the people there, where a small town mayor election can produce a 50 person body count.  I'm guessing Hillary secretly studied there.
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Sure, its screwed up. Duterte seems to be kind of defeatist regarding China. If I were president I'd line the coast with SAMs and anti ship missiles and tell China to bring it. China can't even take Taiwan.
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Btw such mayoral elections with high body counts are rare and when they do happen its in southern Mindanao. Muslim countryside, Catholic cities. There's always a war on down there, private armies... On a clear day I can see northern Mindanao from my house, and that's mostly Catholic. About as close as I want to get to the south, the Sulu Sea area is dangerous for Americans, any westerners really. Kidnap for ransom...off with their heads. Not my kinda thing. I'd go if I was with my old regiment.
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(05-21-2017, 12:33 PM)CavLancer Wrote: Sure, its screwed up. Duterte seems to be kind of defeatist regarding China. If I were president I'd line the coast with SAMs and anti ship missiles and tell China to bring it. China can't even take Taiwan.

Shock  To me that is an amazing comment. Could you elaborate a little? I know that my knowledge is extremely limited.
No one can resist the truth wrapped in a good joke.

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Certainly. China is stealing the EEZs of several nations including the Philippines, in the South China Sea. That's the >>Exclusive<< Economic Zone in which there is likely enough oil to rival Saudi. The Chinese navy and coast guard patrols and rams Philippine ships trying to navigate the area...their own seas! So, anti ship missiles based in the Philippines would be much closer to this area than China is. The Philippines buys a few hundred fancy US anti ship missiles and then the Philippines controls their seas again, and the Philippines can Exclude. Same with the fancy US SAMs, the Philippines could extend a SAM umbrella over their EEZ, China being much farther away could not. Then Philippines controls the seas and sky and can get at their own oil to pay for all those missiles and China can just cry because they wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

Taiwan is much closer, is claimed by China, but China doesn't have the power to take Taiwan, how could they take the Philippines? Duterte should realize he is in the stronger position, and even if he hates the US he just needs the missiles, that's all. The Philippines could do this without the US. Better with, but still.

Remember Tibet!

I'm not a big fan of China. :)
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#10
It's damn good to have someone for that side of the globe to reflect and share their experiences and opinions!
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