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California Fires, another THREE, Big and getting Bigger
#21
(11-08-2018, 10:02 PM)Guest Wrote: Some of the bad ones last year were found to be the power utility not maintaining their poles in heavy winds. I don't think that was BS, PG&E has a notoriously bad reputation for maintenance. And they are too cozy with CA PUC. Corruption kills...

They happen but normally not on the scale that happens now. This is deliberate.
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#22
(11-08-2018, 10:05 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 09:50 PM)dazedb42 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 07:30 PM)Guest Wrote: There is nothing about man made global warming that is an affront to conservative values. This is one of those flat earth vs globe, or sun-rotates-around-earth things. I get that the left over sells the environmental thing to push their agenda, but hardline conservatives in other countries mostly accept GW has a man made component that can be reversed with changed behavior. This ignorance is largely an american construct.

The greenhouse effect violates the laws of physics, specifically conservation of energy in relation to the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Go fuck yourself with your bullshit manmade global warming crap.

I guess everyone can't be right always????

Yep. Thermodynamics is an accounting system and, the books must balance. Energy is conserved. You can't cheat the Physics, you can only lie to the under educated.

Amen brother!!! Drinks
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#23
(11-08-2018, 10:00 PM)dazedb42 Wrote: I still think these fires are being deliberately lit by arsonists, probably Antifa or gang affiliated to cause mayhem. Any talk of directed energy weapons is to distract from people doing this.

Be safe, fires suck.

Sometime back, Isis announced that they would burn the forests down.

An arsonist was caught a couple of years back in Calaveras County, by alert neighbors. I don't recall the story being reported outside of the county. Big Trees National Forest is in the county.

Al Qaeda Magazine Calls for Firebomb Campaign in US

By Randy Kreider

The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs.
Two new issues of "Inspire" magazine have surfaced on jihadi forums, the first since radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and chief Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula propagandist Samir Khan were killed by missiles from a U.S. drone over Yemen on September 30, 2011. The magazines eulogize Awlaki and Khan as the "spirit" and the "tongue" of "Inspire" respectively, but deny that their deaths will stop the magazine or jihad.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-...=16263981p
"We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane."

--Francis Ford Coppola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_of_...Apocalypse

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(11-08-2018, 10:05 PM)dazedb42 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:05 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 09:50 PM)dazedb42 Wrote: The greenhouse effect violates the laws of physics, specifically conservation of energy in relation to the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Go fuck yourself with your bullshit manmade global warming crap.

I guess everyone can't be right always????

Yep. Thermodynamics is an accounting system and, the books must balance. Energy is conserved. You can't cheat the Physics, you can only lie to the under educated.

Amen brother!!!   Drinks

So few people today, have any basic science education, let alone, college level physics. I rarely bring these things up as, so few have any understanding of what I'm talking about.
"We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane."

--Francis Ford Coppola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_of_...Apocalypse

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#25
In Orygun we have lightening strikes, sometimes up to 500 per storm.  THIS and BAD US FOREST MANAGEMENT cause the fires, 90% of the time.  Sometimes it's someone using power equipment on a really dry day and a spark from that use causes it.  In those cases it's considered "man-made" but NOT arson.  Sometimes it's a homeless encampment that is the man-made cause, but ultimately it is VERY STUPID forest management that is to blame.

I spent 3 weeks being two miles from "evacuate now" orders last summer, with two months of staying indoors and less than one mile visibility.  People actually campaigned on fire control reform.  WE ARE SICK OF IT!

CgTFBpM
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#26
(11-08-2018, 10:16 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:00 PM)dazedb42 Wrote: I still think these fires are being deliberately lit by arsonists, probably Antifa or gang affiliated to cause mayhem. Any talk of directed energy weapons is to distract from people doing this.

Be safe, fires suck.

Sometime back Isis announced that they would burn the forests down.

An arsonist was caught a couple of years back in Calaveras County, by alert neighbors. I don't recall the story being reported outside of the county. Big Trees National Forest is in the county.

Al Qaeda Magazine Calls for Firebomb Campaign in US

By Randy Kreider

The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs.
Two new issues of "Inspire" magazine have surfaced on jihadi forums, the first since radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and chief Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula propagandist Samir Khan were killed by missiles from a U.S. drone over Yemen on September 30, 2011. The magazines eulogize Awlaki and Khan as the "spirit" and the "tongue" of "Inspire" respectively, but deny that their deaths will stop the magazine or jihad.
More
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-...=16263981p

I live in a forest, the thought of what a six pack of people could do with a box of matches each and a car to move quickly utilizing prevailing winds is scary as fuck to me. You don't need directed energy weapons just matches.

Last year I watched a series of bushfires start within an hour of each other start along a highway but the press won't say a thing in case they promote copycat arsonists.

This is my states emergency reporting website.

https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/
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#27
(11-08-2018, 10:16 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:00 PM)dazedb42 Wrote: I still think these fires are being deliberately lit by arsonists, probably Antifa or gang affiliated to cause mayhem. Any talk of directed energy weapons is to distract from people doing this.

Be safe, fires suck.

Sometime back, Isis announced that they would burn the forests down.

An arsonist was caught a couple of years back in Calaveras County, by alert neighbors. I don't recall the story being reported outside of the county. Big Trees National Forest is in the county.

Al Qaeda Magazine Calls for Firebomb Campaign in US

By Randy Kreider

The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs.
Two new issues of "Inspire" magazine have surfaced on jihadi forums, the first since radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and chief Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula propagandist Samir Khan were killed by missiles from a U.S. drone over Yemen on September 30, 2011. The magazines eulogize Awlaki and Khan as the "spirit" and the "tongue" of "Inspire" respectively, but deny that their deaths will stop the magazine or jihad.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-...=16263981p

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#28
(11-08-2018, 10:20 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:05 PM)dazedb42 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:05 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Yep. Thermodynamics is an accounting system and, the books must balance. Energy is conserved. You can't cheat the Physics, you can only lie to the under educated.

Amen brother!!!   Drinks

So few people today, have any basic science education, let alone, college level physics. I rarely bring these things up as, so few have any understanding of what I'm talking about.

I've only got highschool physics and even and even a dumbass like me can see the flaws in the theory. Where does all this extra energy come from that is supposedly caused by CO2 in the atmosphere? It's impossible.

You normally get to that stage in the debate and then the whatabouisms start. But what about pollution, don't you care about pollution? CO2 is not pollution you fuckwits.....lol.
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#29
(11-08-2018, 10:22 PM)dazedb42 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:16 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:00 PM)dazedb42 Wrote: I still think these fires are being deliberately lit by arsonists, probably Antifa or gang affiliated to cause mayhem. Any talk of directed energy weapons is to distract from people doing this.

Be safe, fires suck.

Sometime back Isis announced that they would burn the forests down.

An arsonist was caught a couple of years back in Calaveras County, by alert neighbors. I don't recall the story being reported outside of the county. Big Trees National Forest is in the county.

Al Qaeda Magazine Calls for Firebomb Campaign in US

By Randy Kreider

The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs.
Two new issues of "Inspire" magazine have surfaced on jihadi forums, the first since radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and chief Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula propagandist Samir Khan were killed by missiles from a U.S. drone over Yemen on September 30, 2011. The magazines eulogize Awlaki and Khan as the "spirit" and the "tongue" of "Inspire" respectively, but deny that their deaths will stop the magazine or jihad.
More
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-...=16263981p

I live in a forest, the thought of what a six pack of people could do with a box of matches each and a car to move quickly utilizing prevailing winds is scary as fuck to me. You don't need directed energy weapons just matches.

Last year I watched a series of bushfires start within an hour of each other start along a highway but the press won't say a thing in case they promote copycat arsonists.

This is my states emergency reporting website.

https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/

Yeah, me too at times. The arsonist caught with a gas can and road flares wasn't identified by nationality or name. The story died quickly but, is well known in the ground zero area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calaveras_...State_Park
"We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane."

--Francis Ford Coppola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_of_...Apocalypse

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#30
(11-08-2018, 10:31 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:22 PM)dazedb42 Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:16 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: Sometime back Isis announced that they would burn the forests down.

An arsonist was caught a couple of years back in Calaveras County, by alert neighbors. I don't recall the story being reported outside of the county. Big Trees National Forest is in the county.

Al Qaeda Magazine Calls for Firebomb Campaign in US

By Randy Kreider

The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs.
Two new issues of "Inspire" magazine have surfaced on jihadi forums, the first since radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and chief Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula propagandist Samir Khan were killed by missiles from a U.S. drone over Yemen on September 30, 2011. The magazines eulogize Awlaki and Khan as the "spirit" and the "tongue" of "Inspire" respectively, but deny that their deaths will stop the magazine or jihad.
More
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-...=16263981p

I live in a forest, the thought of what a six pack of people could do with a box of matches each and a car to move quickly utilizing prevailing winds is scary as fuck to me. You don't need directed energy weapons just matches.

Last year I watched a series of bushfires start within an hour of each other start along a highway but the press won't say a thing in case they promote copycat arsonists.

This is my states emergency reporting website.

https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/

Yeah, me too at times. The arsonist caught with a gas can and road flares wasn't identified by nationality or name. The story died quickly but, is well known in the ground zero area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calaveras_...State_Park

I seem to recall a couple of immigrants were found in areas with the last fires. By that stage everyone was already going on about DE weapons, which got me thinking immediately that it was a coverup for something more mundane.

I have no problem with harsh penalties for arsonists unless they are kids who just fuck up and then they should be made to volunteer in a burn ward for a few months. Everyone else gets branded and if they fuck up again a bullet.
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