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Armed patriots to Continue as Border Crossings Reach 100,000/Mo
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(05-14-2019, 03:29 PM)sybdragon Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 03:07 PM)Full Throttle Wrote: @sybdragon   Thank you for the detailed explanation, I needed to hear that.  As always, you know how to Bring It!!!

Hugs Thank you. Sometimes I wonder if I sound preachy.  Chuckle I don't mean to. But sometimes..  Chuckle

Not preachy at all, and I appreciated your post very much. Heartflowers
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Heavenly Father, please keep President Donald J. Trump and his family safe and protected, along with all the Patriots who are working with him and for him. Protect and Nurture our Nation and help us through these turbulent times. We ask this in the Name of Christ  Amen
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#32
(05-14-2019, 04:36 PM)sybdragon Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 03:49 PM)WhiteAngel Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 11:36 AM)Full Throttle Wrote: I wonder why this issue is not at the top of most people's radar?  A literal invasion is happening right before our very eyes on a minute to minute basis.

I mentioned in another thread that this would go from the thousands to the hundred of thousands, then an all out failure of the border and millions streaming through.

A few states are pretty much overwhelmed right now,  agents are contracting disease every day.

No end in sight, no plan, nothing seems to be happening to secure the situation.

I believe it is already too late, anything done now is only a band aid on a gaping wound.

So many distractions in our face to keep attention off the border crisis.

I have no clue what is really going on, just glad I suppose that I live away from any border states, wont matter soon though.

When hundreds of thousands stream through, diseased, and whatever else they have in mind, guess we all will have to just stop and recognize
how much of a problem it was/is all along, too late though.

Good luck in the near future people, were all gonna need some of that.

Been saying it’s too late for two years. I was told to be patient. The border should have been closed on day two of Trumps presidency but no, he kept it open. I will always blame him for that.

11 million my Aunt Fanny!!  There is likely over 100 million here. People have been asking why so many in their area. Because they breed like rabbits. They do NOT respect AMERICA or they would be here illegally. Period

It is an INVASION

Trump could have closed the border but there is actually a good reason he didn't. And it's the same reason he let Mueller run him and a lot of people through the ringer. People had to be shown things because there are some dangerous people out there. And they look so harmless too. To effectively rule a country, you must have a percentage that agrees or the .gov gets overthrown. I understand that only 10% of the populace actually overthrew England in the Revolutionary war. When 10% of a population make a lot of noise, things gets changed. There are way to many people thinking that illegals are not a problem. Especially now that we have sanctuary cities and illegals can act like legal citizens and go to the courts for relief, get driver's licenses. The IRS overlooks their felony crime and sends them money too. They have had it way to easy here. They even collect welfare and live on the legal taxpayer's dime.

As you will notice, there are a whole lot of people now talking about this crisis on the border. People have come to realize how bad the illegals are. And how much they are costing. When you see an article that states that illegals cost a billion a year or something... Who relates to that? No one. But if you are living in an area where you are seeing them and watching it turn into a place that you don't understand the language and you are in your own country. New culture, new foods, new language. Sucks. It's not like you moved. They came to you. Took over your place.

If Trump closes the border, it costs a lot of money on the USA side too. Trump is trying not to hurt anyone. What he has done is tighten the border entries. But closing the border would really be problematic and needs to be used as a very last, desperate thing. When we close the border, we admit we can not control our border. This is as much about appearances as anything. And really it's not the ports that are the problem. They are manned and so far haven't been breached. It's the places that have no walls or walls that can be climbed over. It's gates left open. It's bribes and payoffs. Cartels run the USA/Mexican border and no one has done anything about it. Obama armed them along with a bunch of other folks. They have money, the illegal arms biz is big money.

Our problem is the illegals and the laws of the land. Loopholes. Trump is telling us the truth. A lot of people think he is not and he is exaggerating but he's not. Trump is an old man. He's been around the world doing business. He loves the USA and always has. I'm not saying Trump is squeaky clean because I don't know the man to say. But Trump is aware of what has been happening for a long time, decades... And Trump is sharp as a tack. He remembers things and history. He also knows business and business/tax law or he hires someone that knows it. Trump knows if he gets business going, everything else will follow. Idle people get into trouble. Working people don't so much. They have more to lose.

And people that have stake in a place, tend to treat it better. After all, it was one of the principles of the original papers that only landowners, property owners have the vote. Not anyone else. No one else has a stake in the land. The landowners do. They want to protect it. As time went by, male citizens that were not land owners got the vote. At this stage in the game, I'm thinking that it would be good to go back to landowners having the vote and not renters or no one that doesn't have a stake. If you sign up for the draft and bring a draft card, you can vote. Signing up for that shows you are loyal/have some stake in this country. And I believe girls should have to sign up for it too. After all, equality and all that. Digressing, sorry.  Hiding3

This all started back with Nixon. A long time ago. Trump remembers it all, just like I do. So Trump knows there will be no amnesty. If there is, it will be very few. DACA was stopped and once these people's time runs out, it's over. And if Congress and the Senate doesn't do something pretty fast, there will be no DACA people left to give amnesty too. They will be just more illegals if they don't self-deport like a lot of them have done. https://qz.com/1223768/china-debt-trap-t...oad-plans/

Once we get some laws changed... And they will be changed. We are going to see a lot of people leaving. Either by force or by choice. Once the law changes, it will be harder to get a legal job, welfare, or anything that requires legal paperwork. And they will have the people to take care of a bunch of raids and all these new paperwork checks too. After all, the courts are backed up a few years and they have decided it last in, first to court. But those other people still have court dates. And if they don't show up, their documents are no good anymore. And they will get caught. Computers are a wonderful thing. Although not always. Double edged sword...

It's money. All these people come for money. And once the money is cut off, they will have to return to their country to survive. The churches, like the feds are overwhelmed by people. They are full. Just like the jails are full of illegals. So they are shipping them around the county to different areas to shelters and families if they have family here. But that's stopping within the next, less than 90 but more than 60 days now. Within 90 days, the border patrol must be able to house and jail every illegal border jumper and even children. They will not be allowed out in USA society until their case is heard. If they do not get asylum, they will be sent back to their country. Deported and they will not be able to apply for asylum or anything for so many years. The years vary so I guess it's up to the judge how many years you are banned from the USA.

Trump is also going to charge illegals and legal asylum seekers a fee for the paperwork the USA has to file on their case. Who knows how much it's going to be but there is now a cost to applying for asylum in the USA. Things are going to change very quickly in the next 90 days.

He is making small steps.
Like now it is illegal to rent subsidized housing to illegals.
That is opening up a lot more subsidized housing to American Citizens.

Baby steps.
But getting the job done.
Step by step.
And ALL legal, so the dimms have no opening for "impeachment".
  “Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful. And kindle in them the fire of your love. Send forth Your Spirit and they shall be created. And you will renew the face of the earth.”  

Heavenly Father, please keep President Donald J. Trump and his family safe and protected, along with all the Patriots who are working with him and for him. Protect and Nurture our Nation and help us through these turbulent times. We ask this in the Name of Christ  Amen
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(05-14-2019, 10:29 PM)Aquarius Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 03:29 PM)sybdragon Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 03:07 PM)Full Throttle Wrote: @sybdragon   Thank you for the detailed explanation, I needed to hear that.  As always, you know how to Bring It!!!

Hugs Thank you. Sometimes I wonder if I sound preachy.  Chuckle I don't mean to. But sometimes..  Chuckle

Not preachy at all, and I appreciated your post very much.   Heartflowers

Hugs Thank you.
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(05-14-2019, 07:30 PM)sybdragon Wrote: Yep. I'm frustrated too. Trump has changed some things. That anchor baby thing is not such a nice ticket anymore. Those anchor babies can not sponsor anyone until they are a whole lot older and in the meantime, the adults are going to have to learn how to fend for themselves as they are cut off welfare. Yes, I am sure some will still get it. But a lot won't. Trump has started with Section 8 housing and the legal aliens having to pay back any and all welfare before they can get citizenship. They are going to close a lot of those loopholes legally. It will take a short while but I believe it will happen. Then the USA will have some draconian laws about immigration. Just like other countries. And the illegals will not find it so easy to get along here.

The illegals feel safe right now. But when this is all under control at the border, Trump is going to turn inwards. And he is going to make these people self-deport because they can not make any money here. And the charities are all out of money and the sympathy is all played out on these illegals coming across the border at this moment. Later when that crisis is over, people will forget about donating to those charities. They will start to go broke and then the illegals will not have anywhere to turn to. They can get a free ride back to their country if they turn themselves in. Or they can sell all their stuff and put what they want in a car and drive outta here. I don't care which they do.

The fear of deportation is coming back into the illegal community. It hasn't been there for a long, long time. A few decades. Now it's back. And so these people are going to start to feel unsafe here. They are going to start worrying about their kids and it's going to become more than they can bear.

Now I see a lot of legal citizens allowing their illegal spouses to go back without them and the kids. But I also see some success stories of the people that went home to their own countries.

IMO, there are a lot of people that grew up fearless. We saw it when they were protesting. Undocumented! Unafraid! I don't see that anymore. They must still be undocumented. That's not changed. So it was the 'unafraid' part that changed? Seems to be.  Chuckle

I run out of patience all the time. But then I get out of in a month or so. Takes me a while. I'm in a calm phase today.  Chuckle

The policy of anchor babies is that the babies get the welfare even if the parent is illegal. Not anymore. If there is an illegal living with the child, they get no welfare. So what are those illegal single moms gonna do? And what are those illegal parents gonna do? They will not be able to get food stamps, medicaid, free school lunches, SSI for disabled child, WIC for babies, cash welfare, Section 8 housing. Those are all programs they take advantage of. But not anymore or not anymore soon anyway.

What I love about it is that the illegals think they will be safe in a sanctuary city. And if I was an illegal, that would be the last place I would go. Why? That's where I would concentrate after the border crisis and take down if I was border patrol. Spanish neighborhoods and all. If they are called barrio, they are gonna be raided. All those Spanish names in a town. Gonna be raided.

This will take a few years to do. After all.... it took us decades to get in this shape. Decades of screw ups and some of us screaming about it to no avail. Now we have Trump. Hey, could be worse. Could be Hillibeast. Give thanks for the reprieve of that screw up. And thanks that Trump is on the job.

I am waiting to see what happens in around 90 days. I want to see some tent cities. Then I will be screaming like you if I don't see some improvement. I am waiting very impatiently too.  Chuckle

" ... Trump has started with Section 8 housing Trump has started with Section 8 housing and the legal aliens having to pay back any and all welfare before they can get citizenship. ..."

I knew about the section 8 housing, but I didn't know about them having to pay back any and all welfare before they can get citizenship!

See ... Small steps, but it is happening. Yeah3
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Heavenly Father, please keep President Donald J. Trump and his family safe and protected, along with all the Patriots who are working with him and for him. Protect and Nurture our Nation and help us through these turbulent times. We ask this in the Name of Christ  Amen
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(05-14-2019, 11:36 AM)Full Throttle Wrote: I wonder why this issue is not at the top of most people's radar?  A literal invasion is happening right before our very eyes on a minute to minute basis.

I mentioned in another thread that this would go from the thousands to the hundred of thousands, then an all out failure of the border and millions streaming through.

A few states are pretty much overwhelmed right now,  agents are contracting disease every day.

No end in sight, no plan, nothing seems to be happening to secure the situation.

I believe it is already too late, anything done now is only a band aid on a gaping wound.

So many distractions in our face to keep attention off the border crisis.

I have no clue what is really going on, just glad I suppose that I live away from any border states, wont matter soon though.

When hundreds of thousands stream through, diseased, and whatever else they have in mind, guess we all will have to just stop and recognize
how much of a problem it was/is all along, too late though.

Good luck in the near future people, were all gonna need some of that.

Thank goodness for the second amendment. At least we can protect our families and ourselves.
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Italy “Declares War On NGOs” – Will Fine Boats For Rescuing Immigrants

http://www.prisonplanet.com
2 mins read

Zero Hedge
May 14th, 2019
It would appear that Italy’s interior minister Matteo Salvini has escalated his widely-supported anti-immigrant stance, by forcing George Soros and his NGO pals to put their money where their virtue-signaling mouths are…

The Guardian’s Lorenzo Tondo reports that Italy’s government is planning to issue a decree that would mean NGO rescue boats would be fined up to €5,500 (£4,760) for each migrant they disembark on to Italian soil.
As a reminder, Francesca Totolo recently noted in her latest book:
“… all those international NGOs such as Avaaz, Oxfam, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and many others have certainly one thing in common: their financial source, which is Soros. Their role has been, and continues to be, making the Italian people feel guilty if they don’t accept immigrants: legal or illegal, they must be accepted no matter what. So these NGOs, or modern Charons as I like to call them, have effectively – directly or indirectly – smuggled into Italy something like 700.000 people over the last few years. It must be understood, by all means, that something like this is a planned operation since its very beginning.

More
https://www.prisonplanet.com/italy-decla...rants.html
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If it ever come's to it, we have a fairly safe haven down here where I am, several of you have my Hard Address, My actual Location, If need be, come on. In the future, if you need a place of refuge, come on.

I am not going anywhere, neither are any of the people living down here, most have decided to make a stand on the ground we were born on, and the town we grew up and was raised in.

Food, Water, Shelter. Clothing, and All the rest of it, Protection of our families, friends, neighbors, loved ones, etc will be here.

Several have sent the word out on their prospective social media platforms to online friends, etc, for a safe haven if, and or when the time comes.

We are just good old fashioned Hill Billy, people who care deeply about the United States, and our Family, Friends, Neighbors.
Southern Ohio, Northern Kentucky, Follow the Ohio River and you will find us.

When, or if TSHTF, and you find yourself on the run, Their will be good Patriots all along the Ohio River to lend a helping hand.
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A link outlining Graham's proposal, (or part of it). Of course the vote has to pass, which might take a while. Ham
https://www.newsweek.com/senator-lindsey...en-1425086

Meanwhile, did you guys know Trump is allowing TSA to come to the border? No link, I saw it on Fox this morning. Big, rough looking dudes, lol.
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(05-14-2019, 10:29 PM)Aquarius Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 03:29 PM)sybdragon Wrote:
(05-14-2019, 03:07 PM)Full Throttle Wrote: @sybdragon   Thank you for the detailed explanation, I needed to hear that.  As always, you know how to Bring It!!!

Hugs Thank you. Sometimes I wonder if I sound preachy.  Chuckle I don't mean to. But sometimes..  Chuckle

Not preachy at all, and I appreciated your post very much.   Heartflowers

Yer Amazing, syb! You must type 150 words a minute! Chuckle I like your 'preachy!' Heartflowers
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(05-15-2019, 06:15 AM)Full Throttle Wrote: If it ever come's to it, we have a fairly safe haven down here where I am,  several of you have my Hard Address, My actual Location, If need be, come on.  In the future, if you need a place of refuge, come on.

I am not going anywhere, neither are any of the people living down here, most have decided to make a stand on the ground we were born on, and the town we grew up and was raised in.

Food, Water, Shelter. Clothing, and All the rest of it, Protection of our families, friends, neighbors, loved ones, etc will be here.

Several have sent the word out on their prospective social media platforms to online friends, etc, for a safe haven if, and or when the time comes.

We are just good old fashioned Hill Billy, people who care deeply about the United States, and our Family, Friends, Neighbors.
Southern Ohio,  Northern Kentucky,  Follow the Ohio River and you will find us.

When, or if TSHTF,  and you find yourself on the run, Their will be good Patriots all along the Ohio River to lend a helping hand.

With you there, @Full Throttle, plan to shelter in place. And then die...

Chuckle
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