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Being grandson of a Seabee (dude made inroads with Normandy to happen) I have had a long time fascination with this stuff.  From fiction (Captain Nemo)
to now reading history and science things about it.  Do not inter-forum post often, was asked.   Here you  go:
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/GiantShips.htm

"The super-galleys of the Hellenistic Age

Today ships are still very important for the military. Giant US airplane carriers are like small cities. Often they are compared with the small triremes showing the advance in technology. Of course the fire power has increased dramatic the last 2300 years. The small 200 crew triremes cannot be compared to the biggest US warships. But if we consider the Hellenistic period we have to consider the larger warships which are not so well known today as maybe the triremes.

In the Hellenistic period the Greeks produced ships of incredible dimensions for that time. In some cases the crew was larger than that of modern US warships (crew size but not the ship dimension) ! It is not clear how such ships could be produced using wood and not steel and special metallic alloys." 

This was the mother of ancient Greek super ships. Amazing. How did they have the knowledge of some of these things? From the beginning, man has looked at things and wanted to figure out how it works. How to make it better. How to not conquer elements, but use them to his/her advantage. 
What are your, "Wow, this known ancient technology just blows my mind." thing?
I could spend all day reading and discussing this. The more I do, the more I realize that humans are pretty amazing.
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RE: Have always been fascinated with ancient tech 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessarakonteres


"As a catamaran of two "twentys" with 4,000 oarsmen, there would be 2,000 per hull and therefore 1,000 per side. The 130m length would allow ample room for the 50 vertical sections of 3 oars each, with each column accommodating 20 rowers. Thus there would be 150 oars per side. Casson has suggested that it was possible that the two internal sides were not equipped with oars and that the rowers there acted as reserve crew for those on the outer side, so the "forty" would have had either 300 or 600 oars."


This thing was bigger than a football field!


My other "thang" is old railroad. Same grandfather was a conductor/brake-man with a steam engine.
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wow!! that is a giant ship... wonder what it would be like to be on one of those.. pretty amazing I Am sure!!
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(10-19-2015, 02:17 PM)Pure rock fury Wrote: Being grandson of a Seabee (dude made inroads with Normandy to happen) I have had a long time fascination with this stuff.  From fiction (Captain Nemo)
to now reading history and science things about it.  Do not inter-forum post often, was asked.   Here you  go:
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/GiantShips.htm

"The super-galleys of the Hellenistic Age

Today ships are still very important for the military. Giant US airplane carriers are like small cities. Often they are compared with the small triremes showing the advance in technology. Of course the fire power has increased dramatic the last 2300 years. The small 200 crew triremes cannot be compared to the biggest US warships. But if we consider the Hellenistic period we have to consider the larger warships which are not so well known today as maybe the triremes.

In the Hellenistic period the Greeks produced ships of incredible dimensions for that time. In some cases the crew was larger than that of modern US warships (crew size but not the ship dimension) ! It is not clear how such ships could be produced using wood and not steel and special metallic alloys." 

This was the mother of ancient Greek super ships. Amazing. How did they have the knowledge of some of these things? From the beginning, man has looked at things and wanted to figure out how it works. How to make it better. How to not conquer elements, but use them to his/her advantage. 
What are your, "Wow, this known ancient technology just blows my mind." thing?
I could spend all day reading and discussing this. The more I do, the more I realize that humans are pretty amazing.
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RE: Have always been fascinated with ancient tech 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessarakonteres


"As a catamaran of two "twentys" with 4,000 oarsmen, there would be 2,000 per hull and therefore 1,000 per side. The 130m length would allow ample room for the 50 vertical sections of 3 oars each, with each column accommodating 20 rowers. Thus there would be 150 oars per side. Casson has suggested that it was possible that the two internal sides were not equipped with oars and that the rowers there acted as reserve crew for those on the outer side, so the "forty" would have had either 300 or 600 oars."


This thing was bigger than a football field!


My other "thang" is old railroad.  Same grandfather was a conductor/brake-man with a steam engine.
Awesome!!  I love this sort of thing too.  

This past week I caught a special on Nova, where they thought the Ark could have been made of reeds.  Like a giant waterproof basket.  So they built their own replica.  It's amazing what can be done with crude tools and materials!

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Thank you. I love article like this Heartflowers
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5* good read.
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(10-19-2015, 03:06 PM)MysticPizza Wrote: Thank you. I love article like this Heartflowers
But you didn't even read it. The link doesn't work.
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(03-20-2018, 12:43 PM)Justme Wrote:
(10-19-2015, 03:06 PM)MysticPizza Wrote: Thank you. I love article like this Heartflowers
But you didn't even read it. The link doesn't work.

I searched it down from the broken link...
http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Tec...Ships.html
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Everyone wants some magical solution to their problem and everyone refuses to believe in magic."
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(03-20-2018, 02:17 PM)Zetetic Wrote:
(03-20-2018, 12:43 PM)Justme Wrote:
(10-19-2015, 03:06 PM)MysticPizza Wrote: Thank you. I love article like this Heartflowers
But you didn't even read it. The link doesn't work.

I searched it down from the broken link...
http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Tec...Ships.html
Great, thanks!

I found the new site too but didn't find the right link.
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That would be amazing to be on a ship like that!
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