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#21
(03-24-2020, 04:04 PM)Treebeard Wrote:
(03-24-2020, 03:59 PM)St. Blue Dude Wrote: citing that shit shows you are shill drinking Democrat Koolaid and not thinking for yourself, regardless of what you label yourself as.

Donald Trump is and was and always will be nothing more than a spoiled brat from NYC who was born into an affluent family with affluent Jewish friends who nurtured his rise to the top of the real estate chain. He blew his money that he inherited and was bailed out in the early 90s by Rothschild banker Wilbur Ross - who is now his Commerce Secretary. His entire life is nothing but show and scam. I knew this long before 2016, I was not born yesterday. He did bankrupt four companies and himself. You aren't going to succeed in convincing me otherwise, and I think he's a jerk to boot. Ok ? I don't have to like the guy. Never did.

I understand that I'm not going to convince you of anything by showing you factual reality, that would require rationality on your part, and I have never discerned that in any of your rambling babbling posts.

There is no question that Donald Trump was a spoiled brat. I don't like his personality either.

But if you can not see the difference between him and Alinsky stop at nothing Democrats, who have altered FBI Documents, lied under oath, hid evidence, accused an innocent man of being a serial rapist to keep him off the SC, I feel sorry for you. They are the evil ones in that comparison.
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House bill.

"It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...903577001/


Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-...ur-vision/
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(03-24-2020, 05:20 PM)VonLud Wrote: House bill.

"It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...903577001/


Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-...ur-vision/

If true which it appears to be we can safely say that neither party gives a crap about making America Great Again. Of course the Dumbocrats plan is dumb, while the Republican plan is less dumb. Neither party cares about Americans or making America great. They are just shills for the big corporations whose board members are controlled by the ***********

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(03-24-2020, 05:30 PM)Zoo Keeper Wrote:
(03-24-2020, 05:20 PM)VonLud Wrote: House bill.

"It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...903577001/


Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-...ur-vision/

If true which it appears to be we can safely say that neither party gives a crap about making America Great Again.  Of course the Dumbocrats plan is dumb, while the Republican plan is less dumb.  Neither party cares about Americans or making America great.  They are just shills for the big corporations whose board members are controlled by the ***********

Abrahamidae?

Zarathustra?
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#25
What does it tell you when the President is pushing for only 14 days then reopen the country
for Easter - but we STILL SOMEHOW NEED 3-7 TRILLION DOLLAR INJECTION

of course we don't really need this much of an injection.

they are writing their own checks... it's all a scam of epic proportions.

How weak is this country and how dependent on Rothschild scrill ? That much.

Why? Because our philosophy is SICK. Pitiful and Sad country.
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#26
The Boeing bailout would be in the form of loans, not a gift.
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wet toast


there is so many soft pockets of ignorant people everywhere.

ignorant of the most basic skills.

it's a critical mass of idiocracy being steered by a veiled plutocracy...running over what's left of actual human beings.
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(03-24-2020, 06:43 PM)Treebeard Wrote: What does it tell you when the President is pushing for only 14 days then reopen the country
for Easter - but we STILL SOMEHOW NEED 3-7 TRILLION DOLLAR INJECTION

of course we don't really need this much of an injection.

they are writing their own checks... it's all a scam of epic proportions.

How weak is this country and how dependent on Rothschild scrill ? That much.

Why? Because our philosophy is SICK. Pitiful and Sad country.

Trump may decide to open up the country after Easter but businesses have a different agenda. The Vegas strip is closed and many conventions were post-poned for months. Prez may say we are open for business but the American worker will be suffering for a lot longer. The hysteria hurt the economy in ways that will not heal by Easter.

The only ones getting money should be the American worker and Americans. Heal the people and they will heal the economy.
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(03-24-2020, 05:20 PM)VonLud Wrote: House bill.

"It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...903577001/


Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-...ur-vision/

Ok, someone is not telling the truth. Fake news? The Democrats unveiled their $2.5 trillion coronavirus stimulus package late yesterday and it doesn't jive with some reports like those posted above. Scratchinghead

Snip - More than $150 billion will be funneled into the health care system — hospitals, care centers, etc — to shore up resources for equipment and programs for coronavirus treatment. It also strengthens worker requirements to better protect those working directly to combat the disease.

It allocates nearly $8 billion to defense resources going to combat the virus: $3.48 billion to the National Guard, $3.8 billion for military health care services and $500 million for the Defense Production Act.

Their plan to give direct cash payments to the public would extend $1,500 per individual and up to $7,500 to a family of five. There is also $602 million set aside for tax credits, including child and earned income credits.

It also suspends rent payments for those receiving federal rental assistance and puts a moratorium on evictions nationwide.

The bill would create a temporary employment program that pays $600 per week to any worker affected by the coronavirus economic impact, which combined with other benefits, should provide a full compensation. It also expands which workers would be eligible for unemployment.

Democrats also allocated $25 billion for lost revenue to the postal service.

Federal workers that are still required to come to work during the crisis will receive $2,000 per child per month throughout the crisis.

It also expands on several aspects of the second coronavirus package — including paid sick leave benefits and SNAP food security programs — and eliminates copays for all coronavirus treatments.

These paid sick leave benefits will be extended to businesses with 50 employees or less and “strips the Labor Secretary of authority” to carve these companies out.

It sets aside more than $500 billion in grants and interest-free loans for small businesses, many of which have been shuttered by government-mandated shelter-in-place and self-quarantine policies. Of that, $300 billion in guaranteed loans are set aside for short-term payroll expenses.

There is $215 billion in grants allocated for state and local governments to help continue to fund public services.

It also gives $60 billion to schools and universities, and allows for $10,000 in student loan forgiveness.

The legislation will also has $4 billion in grants for states to continue with the scheduled 2020 election, while requiring that they expand early and absentee voting opportunities with a 15-day window — including providing self-sealing envelopes and prepaid postage for mail-in ballots.

The voting regulations extend, however, to require states allow same-day voter registration and no longer request the last four digits of social security numbers.

It also sets aside $20 million for “risk limiting” audits of election results.

The bill provides $37 billion in grants to airline and cargo employees, $3 billion to ground support contractors, and $21 billion in unsecured loans to air carriers.

Airports will receive $10 billion for infrastructure, sanitation and workforce purposes, but they must retain 10% of their workforce.

Air carriers must also maintain a $15 minimum wage for all contracted workers. The funds are prohibited from being used for stock buybacks or going to shareholders; CEO salaries are capped at 50 times more than their average employee.

This portion of the package provides $1 billion to eliminate high-polluting aircraft and $100 million in research for green fuel. It also requires all air carriers that receive assistance to offset their carbon emissions by 2025 — these carriers will need to reduce their emissions by 50% by 2050.

The package includes $100 million to create an oversight panel to ensure all the funds appropriated to tackle the coronavirus are properly used.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/202...irus-phas/

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(03-24-2020, 07:41 PM)Zoo Keeper Wrote:
(03-24-2020, 05:20 PM)VonLud Wrote: House bill.

"It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...903577001/


Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-...ur-vision/

Ok, someone is not telling the truth. Fake news? The Democrats unveiled their $2.5 trillion coronavirus stimulus package late yesterday and it doesn't jive with some reports like those posted above.  Scratchinghead

Snip - More than $150 billion will be funneled into the health care system — hospitals, care centers, etc — to shore up resources for equipment and programs for coronavirus treatment. It also strengthens worker requirements to better protect those working directly to combat the disease.

It allocates nearly $8 billion to defense resources going to combat the virus: $3.48 billion to the National Guard, $3.8 billion for military health care services and $500 million for the Defense Production Act.

Their plan to give direct cash payments to the public would extend $1,500 per individual and up to $7,500 to a family of five. There is also $602 million set aside for tax credits, including child and earned income credits.

It also suspends rent payments for those receiving federal rental assistance and puts a moratorium on evictions nationwide.

The bill would create a temporary employment program that pays $600 per week to any worker affected by the coronavirus economic impact, which combined with other benefits, should provide a full compensation. It also expands which workers would be eligible for unemployment.

Democrats also allocated $25 billion for lost revenue to the postal service.

Federal workers that are still required to come to work during the crisis will receive $2,000 per child per month throughout the crisis.

It also expands on several aspects of the second coronavirus package — including paid sick leave benefits and SNAP food security programs — and eliminates copays for all coronavirus treatments.

These paid sick leave benefits will be extended to businesses with 50 employees or less and “strips the Labor Secretary of authority” to carve these companies out.

It sets aside more than $500 billion in grants and interest-free loans for small businesses, many of which have been shuttered by government-mandated shelter-in-place and self-quarantine policies. Of that, $300 billion in guaranteed loans are set aside for short-term payroll expenses.

There is $215 billion in grants allocated for state and local governments to help continue to fund public services.

It also gives $60 billion to schools and universities, and allows for $10,000 in student loan forgiveness.

The legislation will also has $4 billion in grants for states to continue with the scheduled 2020 election, while requiring that they expand early and absentee voting opportunities with a 15-day window — including providing self-sealing envelopes and prepaid postage for mail-in ballots.

The voting regulations extend, however, to require states allow same-day voter registration and no longer request the last four digits of social security numbers.

It also sets aside $20 million for “risk limiting” audits of election results.

The bill provides $37 billion in grants to airline and cargo employees, $3 billion to ground support contractors, and $21 billion in unsecured loans to air carriers.

Airports will receive $10 billion for infrastructure, sanitation and workforce purposes, but they must retain 10% of their workforce.

Air carriers must also maintain a $15 minimum wage for all contracted workers. The funds are prohibited from being used for stock buybacks or going to shareholders; CEO salaries are capped at 50 times more than their average employee.

This portion of the package provides $1 billion to eliminate high-polluting aircraft and $100 million in research for green fuel. It also requires all air carriers that receive assistance to offset their carbon emissions by 2025 — these carriers will need to reduce their emissions by 50% by 2050.

The package includes $100 million to create an oversight panel to ensure all the funds appropriated to tackle the coronavirus are properly used.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/202...irus-phas/

Not sure why you put it the way you did.

The revised House bill is over 1,400 pages outlaying 2,500,000,000,000 in spending and it could contain almost anything.

You can read it here: https://apps.npr.org/documents/document....HOUSE-BILL

You would probably be the first to do so.

"Republicans denounced House Democrats’ bill as a wish list, noting it includes provisions on federal elections, minimum wages, union regulations and climate change that Democrats have long advocated."

Good link. https://fortune.com/2020/03/24/nancy-pel...nate-bill/

I never know what is true, I try not to concern myself with the lies.
"100% Bullshit" - Han Sole
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