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(03-25-2020, 07:10 PM)CrypticMole Wrote:
(03-25-2020, 05:24 PM)Guest Wrote:
(03-25-2020, 04:07 PM)Guest Wrote: Hi, CM.
I admire your determination to use natural cures to combat diseases.
I recently learned about a book which discredits all modern medicine.
For example, viruses are present in all living things. They are solvents which absorb and remove cellular material which has died because of environmental toxins.
Our bodies can heal themselves if we detox the pesticides and numerous other poisons we eat and drink. There is no (0) evidence that contagions are transmitted by air, any more than germs survive outside the body. The Germ theory is, guess what? a theory.
Modern science is all theory, with no empirical data to prove bupkis.

Will any of this information help us when martial law is enacted?
Doubtful.

Everything they tell us is a lie.

By the way, I am apparently permabanned at LOP. Why? Because I mentioned Hamburgerwagon.
Not even flag earth.
And I don't mean flag.

Chuckle
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Been hearing that non-transmittal of airborne theory a few times; including earlier today on a live podcast; this guy Richie was very emphatic about it; I think I heard correctly that tonight he’ll have an interview with a Dr. Andy Kaufman on this topic.

Apparently the following is his YT channel.


https://www.youtube.com/user/27TUBGUY

My God is this you, Grav, and you using one of your own quotes from where I do not know?  Chuckle

Truthfully, I don't really know since I see the possibility of either and or...

However, and according to google and Wikipedia:

Q. Can the coronavirus disease spread through air?

A. Airborne spread has not been reported for COVID-19 and it is not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence.

Well that's interesting to say the least given the 6-foot
"social distancing" rule and how we keep hearing about
the plumes created when one coughs or sneezes from
which one can contract the contagion.
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(03-25-2020, 07:44 PM)KOMMA Wrote:



Another virus

Facepalm

Hantavirus is not unknown here, it's iirc endemic
in the SW U.S. but can probably crop up most
anywhere. As she says rodents are the vector
and I've never heard of human to human
transmission.

It's very rare in the U.S. (map attached which
notes it first appeared in the Four Corners area):

https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/index.html
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A little OT and yet it's on point as the subject is virus-infected
illegals infecting our citizens once again (in 2014).

Plus I've never seen the "polio-like" illness (as it's euphem-
istically been termed) nailed down to a source like this (I just
happened to see this in my email from Judicial Watch). Nor
did I realize it's also respiratory in nature. And of course
it is still killing American children.

It was brought in by illegal minors in the 2014 hordes:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption...dly-virus/
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One more would-be atrocity:

Open Borders Coalition Demands All Illegal Immigrants Freed from Custody Over Coronavirus

Although there have been no confirmed cases of Coronavirus disease in federal immigration detention facilities, open borders groups are taking advantage of the health crisis to demand that all illegal aliens be immediately released from custody and into communities throughout the United States. The movement, known as FreeThemAll, was launched this month by a coalition of leftist nonprofits long critical of the Trump administration’s hardline immigration policies. “The immigrant community is at grave risk,” according to one of the groups leading the effort, Texas-based Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES). The public is encouraged to contact Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to demand that the agency “release all immigrants in detention, because detention is no place for a family, and no place for a family to be during a pandemic.”

https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption...0325193141
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Shared on NextDoor, originally posted by an epidemiologist
(Jonathan Smith) re social distancing and transmission. (I
am still skeptical in all of this though for the record and
as I've mentioned this a couple of times now on this thread,
I am following all of our local, state and federal guidelines.)


https://medium.com/@jpsmithalt/hold-the-...231c48ff17

As an infectious disease epidemiologist  at this point I feel morally obligated to provide some information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how they apply to the social distancing measures.  Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these measures very clear and unambiguous.

First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means even with these measures we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities in the coming weeks. Our hospitals will be overwhelmed, and people will die that didn’t have to. This may lead some people to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. This enemy that we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not my opinion; this is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. We know what will happen; I want to help the community brace for this impact. Stay strong and with solidarity knowing with absolute certainty that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people begin getting sick and dying around you. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.

Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or a hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again and no one listens. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.

In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also take a long time to see the results. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it does. I promise you it does. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a playdate, a haircut, or picking up a needless item at the store, etc. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines all of the work the community has done so far.

Until we get a viable vaccine this unprecedented outbreak will not be overcome in grand, sweeping gesture, rather only by the collection of individual choices our community makes in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. My goal in writing this is to prevent communities from getting ‘sucker-punched’ by what the epidemiological community knows will happen in the coming weeks. It will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and become paralyzed by fear, or to ‘cheat’ a little bit in the coming weeks. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit, strategizing, and action to persevere in this time of uncertainty.
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(03-26-2020, 12:11 AM)Verity Wrote:
(03-25-2020, 07:10 PM)CrypticMole Wrote:
(03-25-2020, 05:24 PM)Guest Wrote: Been hearing that non-transmittal of airborne theory a few times; including earlier today on a live podcast; this guy Richie was very emphatic about it; I think I heard correctly that tonight he’ll have an interview with a Dr. Andy Kaufman on this topic.

Apparently the following is his YT channel.


https://www.youtube.com/user/27TUBGUY

My God is this you, Grav, and you using one of your own quotes from where I do not know?  Chuckle

Truthfully, I don't really know since I see the possibility of either and or...

However, and according to google and Wikipedia:

Q. Can the coronavirus disease spread through air?

A. Airborne spread has not been reported for COVID-19 and it is not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence.

Well that's interesting to say the least given the 6-foot
"social distancing" rule and how we keep hearing about
the plumes created when one coughs or sneezes from
which one can contract the contagion.

This is all starting to sound like the I know you are but what am I from first grade.

And then there's the jaugernaut crowd mania.

https://nicholaspogm.wordpress.com/2020/...ompliance/

However, COVID-19 or whatever it is ... is just global compliance.

That virus is an insignificant nothing in comparison to all the other things going on at the same time.

Jade Helm 15? This exercise was going to become something regardless of who was in power?

A place that doesn't even have any corona virus outbreak is on lockdown? WTF?

Every government is in bed with the one world government and religion? Why?

No wonder you can't get a straight answer out of anybody.

Are you sure that China isn't coming to invade us? Red Dawn?

Bill Gates and the 5G corona virus flu connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtqCIup4alQ
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(03-26-2020, 01:25 AM)counterintelligence Wrote:
(03-26-2020, 12:11 AM)Verity Wrote:
(03-25-2020, 07:10 PM)CrypticMole Wrote: My God is this you, Grav, and you using one of your own quotes from where I do not know?  Chuckle

Truthfully, I don't really know since I see the possibility of either and or...

However, and according to google and Wikipedia:

Q. Can the coronavirus disease spread through air?

A. Airborne spread has not been reported for COVID-19 and it is not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence.

Well that's interesting to say the least given the 6-foot
"social distancing" rule and how we keep hearing about
the plumes created when one coughs or sneezes from
which one can contract the contagion.

This is all starting to sound like the I know you are but what am I from first grade.

And then there's the jaugernaut crowd mania.  

https://nicholaspogm.wordpress.com/2020/...ompliance/

However, COVID-19 or whatever it is ... is just global compliance.

That virus is an insignificant nothing in comparison to all the other things going on at the same time.

Jade Helm 15?  This exercise was going to become something regardless of who was in power?

A place that doesn't even have any corona virus outbreak is on lockdown?  WTF?

Every government is in bed with the one world government and religion?  Why?

No wonder you can't get a straight answer out of anybody.

Are you sure that China isn't coming to invade us?  Red Dawn?

Bill Gates and the 5G corona virus flu connection.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtqCIup4alQ

Yes, Icke said pretty much the same things in an interview
a little over a week ago (no surprise of course). All to usher
in the new monetary system, come hell or high water.
One thing he was off on, it actually seems to be killing
the most folks in the GenX age range i.e. around 50, even
moreso than elderly as he claimed (and of course I could be
wrong too and the picture is ever fluctuating it seems).

https://youtu.be/gMTZu6_TjU8

eta I have been a little unnerved by the stories in recent days
noting the clear skies, great air quality, etc. All due to the
absence of traffic and industry of course and no surprise. But
isn't this a convenient development for the climate change
fanatics to glom onto in the near future.
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(03-26-2020, 12:56 AM)Verity Wrote: Shared on NextDoor, originally posted by an epidemiologist
(Jonathan Smith) re social distancing and transmission. (I
am still skeptical in all of this though for the record and
as I've mentioned this a couple of times now on this thread,
I am following all of our local, state and federal guidelines.)


https://medium.com/@jpsmithalt/hold-the-...231c48ff17

As an infectious disease epidemiologist  at this point I feel morally obligated to provide some information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how they apply to the social distancing measures.  Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these measures very clear and unambiguous.

First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means even with these measures we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities in the coming weeks. Our hospitals will be overwhelmed, and people will die that didn’t have to. This may lead some people to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. This enemy that we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not my opinion; this is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. We know what will happen; I want to help the community brace for this impact. Stay strong and with solidarity knowing with absolute certainty that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people begin getting sick and dying around you. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.

Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or a hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again and no one listens. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.

In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also take a long time to see the results. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it does. I promise you it does. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a playdate, a haircut, or picking up a needless item at the store, etc. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines all of the work the community has done so far.

Until we get a viable vaccine this unprecedented outbreak will not be overcome in grand, sweeping gesture, rather only by the collection of individual choices our community makes in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. My goal in writing this is to prevent communities from getting ‘sucker-punched’ by what the epidemiological community knows will happen in the coming weeks. It will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and become paralyzed by fear, or to ‘cheat’ a little bit in the coming weeks. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit, strategizing, and action to persevere in this time of uncertainty.

I say we all hold hands together and stand as a wall against the regime. So if fighting against all the military trucks coming into every major city is what Bill Gates meant when we said we have to fight like war against a pandemic, I thought the military could not, would not shoot down a civilian.
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(03-26-2020, 02:00 AM)counterintelligence Wrote:
(03-26-2020, 12:56 AM)Verity Wrote: Shared on NextDoor, originally posted by an epidemiologist
(Jonathan Smith) re social distancing and transmission. (I
am still skeptical in all of this though for the record and
as I've mentioned this a couple of times now on this thread,
I am following all of our local, state and federal guidelines.)


https://medium.com/@jpsmithalt/hold-the-...231c48ff17

As an infectious disease epidemiologist  at this point I feel morally obligated to provide some information on what we are seeing from a transmission dynamic perspective and how they apply to the social distancing measures.  Specifically, I want to make two aspects of these measures very clear and unambiguous.

First, we are in the very infancy of this epidemic’s trajectory. That means even with these measures we will see cases and deaths continue to rise globally, nationally, and in our own communities in the coming weeks. Our hospitals will be overwhelmed, and people will die that didn’t have to. This may lead some people to think that the social distancing measures are not working. They are. They may feel futile. They aren’t. You will feel discouraged. You should. This is normal in chaos. This enemy that we are facing is very good at what it does; we are not failing. We need everyone to hold the line as the epidemic inevitably gets worse. This is not my opinion; this is the unforgiving math of epidemics for which I and my colleagues have dedicated our lives to understanding with great nuance, and this disease is no exception. We know what will happen; I want to help the community brace for this impact. Stay strong and with solidarity knowing with absolute certainty that what you are doing is saving lives, even as people begin getting sick and dying around you. You may feel like giving in. Don’t.

Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or a hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again and no one listens. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.

In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also take a long time to see the results. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it does. I promise you it does. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a playdate, a haircut, or picking up a needless item at the store, etc. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines all of the work the community has done so far.

Until we get a viable vaccine this unprecedented outbreak will not be overcome in grand, sweeping gesture, rather only by the collection of individual choices our community makes in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. My goal in writing this is to prevent communities from getting ‘sucker-punched’ by what the epidemiological community knows will happen in the coming weeks. It will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and become paralyzed by fear, or to ‘cheat’ a little bit in the coming weeks. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit, strategizing, and action to persevere in this time of uncertainty.

I say we all hold hands together and stand as a wall against the regime.  So if fighting against all the military trucks coming into every major city is what Bill Gates meant when we said we have to fight like war against a pandemic, I thought the military could not, would not shoot down a civilian.

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