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I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Treebeard - 02-11-2019

We need MORE than just free speech.

Our free speech is cheap.
It's barely worth the air to say it - when it is minority it is failed.
Money buys politics.

Majoritarianism.
Tyranny by manipulated majority.


Citizenship - Should be OPTIONAL. Who gave the State the right to CLAIM YOU as a citizen?

Why must you RENOUNCE what you NEVER CHOSE TO JOIN?

Why must you LEAVE "YOUR OWN DWELLING" to escape, if it's YOURS ?

2020 is coming, permission to fly and travel will require Facial Recognition ID

Trump is temporary. You may appreciate what I say more when Beto or Warren is president.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Treebeard - 02-11-2019

By the way this could be part of a solution for America.

Instead of voting, choose which government you are a part of.

No more subjugation by majoritarianism.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - It's The Great Trumpski - 02-11-2019

I dont have any of those problems. Im one of the few stateless people in the world.

Although ....i am a legal perm resident of the usa.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - D3VILSR3J3CT - 02-11-2019

Problem with free speech is.
Most folks don't know how to STFU.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Treebeard - 02-11-2019

(02-11-2019, 07:42 PM)SMOK3Y Wrote: Problem with free speech is.
Most folks don't know how to STFU.

Another problem is nobody has to listen.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Treebeard - 02-11-2019

(02-11-2019, 07:41 PM)It Wrote: I dont have any of those problems. Im one of the few stateless people in the world.

Although ....i am a legal perm resident of the usa.

If you are a resident of the US then you fall under US laws
no difference.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Sassy - 02-11-2019

(02-11-2019, 07:35 PM)Treebeard Wrote: We need MORE than just free speech.

Our free speech is cheap.
It's barely worth the air to say it - when it is minority it is failed.
Money buys politics.

Majoritarianism.
Tyranny by manipulated majority.


Citizenship - Should be OPTIONAL. Who gave the State the right to CLAIM YOU as a citizen?

Why must you RENOUNCE what you NEVER CHOSE TO JOIN?

Why must you LEAVE "YOUR OWN DWELLING" to escape, if it's YOURS ?

2020 is coming, permission to fly and travel will require Facial Recognition ID

Trump is temporary. You may appreciate what I say more when Beto or Warren is president.

This is the way I feel.
If you are not a citizen you need a visa.
If you are not a citizen why are you here because I don't want you here except for a short visit with a visa.  
If you are not a citizen don't vote.

Beto and Warren have a whole lot of legal problems before they ever successfully become president.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - It's The Great Trumpski - 02-11-2019

(02-11-2019, 07:46 PM)Treebeard Wrote:
(02-11-2019, 07:41 PM)It Wrote: I dont have any of those problems. Im one of the few stateless people in the world.

Although ....i am a legal perm resident of the usa.

If you are a resident of the US then you fall under US laws
no difference.

There is a difference. I have no citizenship in any nation anymore. That is the definition of stateless.


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Hazmat - 02-11-2019

(02-11-2019, 07:42 PM)SMOK3Y Wrote: Problem with free speech is.
Most folks don't know how to STFU.

Or when...


RE: I think citizenship should be optional, not forced de jure by the government. - Treebeard - 02-11-2019

(02-11-2019, 07:48 PM)It Wrote: There is a difference. I have no citizenship in any nation anymore. That is the definition of stateless.

If you are a legal and recognized US resident than you are not stateless.
The US decides to do with you as it sees fit. Just like a baby born here is claimed without permission.