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RE: NXIVM Updates - Fritzy Ritz - 05-20-2019

Bump for today's developments, check previous page.


RE: NXIVM Updates - Sassy - 05-20-2019

(05-20-2019, 07:05 PM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote: Okay, here's some fun stuff. Grab the popcorn.

First, you remember this from last week:

Quote:ORDER: Attorney Michael Sullivan, on behalf of his client (non-party Nxivm), shall submit a sworn declaration regarding the status of Nxivm by no later than May 20, 2019, at 3:00 P.M. This declaration shall state the names of all current officers and directors of Nxivm and state whether the Nxivm board of directors has held any meetings since December 19, 2018. Mr. Sullivan may file this declaration under seal. The court will email this order to Mr. Sullivan and his associate. Ordered by Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis on 5/17/2019.


Today, I'm looking at crazydaysandnights.net and see this blind item:

Quote:MONDAY, MAY 20, 2019
Blind Item #13
A few enterprising leaders, including a former actress, of this former cult have started an escort service using some of the still brainwashed former members.
POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 11:45 AM  
link here: https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/05/blind-item-13_20.html

Hmmm... How can this be? Then I discover this!

Quote:Allison Mack’s wife has been lurking around upstate New York nearby the Smallville actress’s former home and NXIVM sex cult headquarters, RadarOnline.com can exclusively report. .....

Former neighbors of the Smallville star claim that Clyne has been galivanting around her old Halfmoon, New York neighborhood Opens a New Window.  with young women believed to have been involved in NXIVM as well.

“Nicki Clyne is driving around in a white BMW picking up girls on Flintock Lane where she once lived with Allison,” an eyewitness told Radar.

“It’s crazy because there seems to still be a lot of NXIVM women getting together around here and they aren’t hiding,” the eyewitness continued.

link here: https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/05/allison-mack-wife-nicki-clyne-spotted-near-nxivm-headquarters/

And wait, there's more. The Post (the real one, not WaPo) had this account of Lauren Salzman's testimony today:

Quote:Lauren Salzman, a member of Raniere’s supposed elite inner circle, DOS, testified that she and her cohorts were encouraged to recruit “people of power and influence” to the group.

Raniere hoped “that we might have a DOS candidate in a high-level political office,’’ she said.


The candidate would have to be “highly collateralized,’’ Salzman said — meaning Raniere would have enough dirt on her to control her through threats of blackmail.

Salzman said that ultimately, Raniere — who is on trial for sex trafficking while masquerading as the leader of a self-help organization — planned to grow DOS into an army of followers.

full story here: https://nypost.com/2019/05/20/nxivm-head-keith-raniere-aspired-to-infiltrate-political-office/
as well as the Times-Union account: https://m.timesunion.com/news/article/Witness-Raniere-physically-abused-women-in-13860158.php

Unbelievable!!!


RE: NXIVM Updates - Fritzy Ritz - 05-21-2019

(05-20-2019, 10:42 PM)Sassy Wrote: Unbelievable!!!

It really is. I'm purposely not posting most of the details that Lauren Salzman said in her testimony because it really gets into some twisted stuff. But another troubling aspect is how some of the ex-members are faring -- or not faring -- now. Some of them seem to be vacillating between "it was a horrific experience" and "there were some really good concepts and we did good for people." Others of them, in my opinion -- most notably Barbara Bouchey -- , are wearing this cloak of newfound fame very awkwardly. One reporter commented that Bouchey stands outside the courthouse and grabs any member of the press who will listen to her so that she can give "corrections" on whatever testimony was given in court that day. This is similar to what she did at the NXIVM seminar sponsored by the Times Union just before the trial began. She showed up wearing a black cocktail dress and once she got hold of the mic, she never shut up. There were four or five other speakers, but it was the Bubbles Bouchey show all the way. It's really tragic to see these women so fractured, ya know?


RE: NXIVM Updates - Fritzy Ritz - 05-21-2019

CBC has been doing an excellent podcast series called "Escaping NXIVM" in which they interview several members about their experiences. They just released a "bonus" episode talking about the trial, and with a reaction from Sarah Edmundson. It's a good listen and very balanced coverage.
Link here: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1522770499540


RE: NXIVM Updates - Fritzy Ritz - 05-21-2019

William Ramsey interviews Roberta Glass who has been covering NXIVM for months. A good discussion which, in part, discusses many of the similarities between NXIVM and Scientology as well as exploring the question: how big is this organization?






RE: NXIVM Updates - Firefly - 05-21-2019

Thank you, Fritzey, for letting me know this thread was here. I had no idea...

However, your comment above about 'involving someone even in politics' thru this group - think Kristin Gillibrand. She's already been in the news via her father, who gave monetary 'support' to NEXIVM. Then, knowing the size of THIS group alone (scary on a good day) and how much money the Clinton Foundation gave them, etc, and the Seagram's money, still isn't quite that much money. Not really, when you consider the SIZE of the entire child trafficking business. I may have found a 'connection' to all this which will maybe emphasize the size of NEXIUM as compared to maybe what might be the 'parent company'.

I've been following a guy on YT who goes by IPOT, and mostly he discusses Q stuff and things in the news, etc, etc. BUT, do you remember the BIG 'gun confiscation at the abandoned mansion in CA' news from maybe 2 wks ago? Well, Patrick has been following that like crazy (I think he's from CA, has personal knowledge of the area where this all began) and he's discovered some very interesting connections. Your post above discusses 'just how big this operation is' - well, I'm beginning to think it's so BIG with so many little fingers in some legit activities (is there even such a thing anymore as legit?) that it ought to be looked at a little more closely. He does what he calls 'Quick Burns', little vids that may last 8 mins to an hour, and they're kinda funny to watch. And, I need (personally) as much humor as I can find, lately, because all this stuff is connected (to gov and politicians and heads of state, etc) and if I can't laugh at something stupid, I'm afraid I'll pop a blood vessel. I'll give you the 3 most important vids to watch, and the link to his YT page (there's another somebody out there trying to use his name to do similar vids. IPOT is In Pursuit Of Truth. He's even made some very 'loose' connections to where the fodder for the FF's come from, think school shootings, stuff like that. I think I need to follow this NEXIVM trial a little more, just to see how the court is handling it - it could end up becoming a model for the things yet to come. Kinda interesting, that 'gun collection' find in CA was news, for only a minute. Why? You have to know that somebody is looking very closely at this one. Why do people pay millions of dollars in taxes and then let a palatial mansion fall into ruin? Somebody is, and has been, looking at that, I think, and maybe for a long time. At least, I hope this is the case.

IPOT link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAyrKoW31y5UcsRjh2ItvxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGX3A5-Rpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-BIANeZfk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXYqZUKnq9w


RE: NXIVM Updates - Pure Rock fury - 05-21-2019

(05-21-2019, 11:20 AM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote: CBC has been doing an excellent podcast series called "Escaping NXIVM" in which they interview several members about their experiences. They just released a "bonus" episode talking about the trial, and with a reaction from Sarah Edmundson. It's a good listen and very balanced coverage.
Link here: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1522770499540

Thanks. I do get cbc on one of my pre programmed built In internet channels on the tv.
It sucks to say I am not surprised at all with trying to implement some of their cult into high level gvt positions. The Scientologists tried and it seems like this guy patterned much of his ideas after them. Or cherry picked them. And, unfortunately, not surprised that some of the cult members have embraced the spotlight as, as cults are designed to make you feel above the rest, and B: there are many rich and famous people in this shit that it appeals to with others and Hollywood...


RE: NXIVM Updates - Pure Rock fury - 05-21-2019

Fritzy, again, thanks for the thread and keeping it relevant. Because it is.


RE: NXIVM Updates - Fritzy Ritz - 05-21-2019

(05-21-2019, 02:08 PM)Firefly Wrote: Thank you, Fritzey, for letting me know this thread was here.  I had no idea...

However, your comment above about 'involving someone even in politics' thru this group - think Kristin Gillibrand.  She's already been in the news via her father, who gave monetary 'support' to NEXIVM.  Then, knowing the size of THIS group alone (scary on a good day) and how much money the Clinton Foundation gave them, etc, and the Seagram's money, still isn't quite that much money.  Not really, when you consider the SIZE of the entire child trafficking business.  I may have found a 'connection' to all this which will maybe emphasize the size of NEXIUM as compared to maybe what might be the 'parent company'.  

I've been following a guy on YT who goes by IPOT, and mostly he discusses Q stuff and things in the news, etc, etc.  BUT, do you remember the BIG 'gun confiscation at the abandoned mansion in CA' news from maybe 2 wks ago?  Well, Patrick has been following that like crazy (I think he's from CA, has personal knowledge of the area where this all began) and he's discovered some very interesting connections.  Your post above discusses 'just how big this operation is' - well, I'm beginning to think it's so BIG with so many little fingers in some legit activities (is there even such a thing anymore as legit?) that it ought to be looked at a little more closely.  He does what he calls 'Quick Burns', little vids that may last 8 mins to an hour, and they're kinda funny to watch.  And, I need (personally) as much humor as I can find, lately, because all this stuff is connected (to gov and politicians and heads of state, etc) and if I can't laugh at something stupid, I'm afraid I'll pop a blood vessel.  I'll give you the 3 most important vids to watch, and the link to his YT page (there's another somebody out there trying to use his name to do similar vids.  IPOT is In Pursuit Of Truth.  He's even made some very 'loose' connections to where the fodder for the FF's come from, think school shootings, stuff like that.  I think I need to follow this NEXIVM trial a little more, just to see how the court is handling it - it could end up becoming a model for the things yet to come.  Kinda interesting, that 'gun collection' find in CA was news, for only a minute.  Why?  You have to know that somebody is looking very closely at this one.  Why do people pay millions of dollars in taxes and then let a palatial mansion fall into ruin?  Somebody is, and has been, looking at that, I think, and maybe for a long time.  At least, I hope this is the case.  

IPOT link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAyrKoW31y5UcsRjh2ItvxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGX3A5-Rpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-BIANeZfk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXYqZUKnq9w

Thanks for the links. I'm going to check them out.

Gillebrand's family history is .... interesting.

The reason I highlighted the comment about political influence is because that was a statement that came out in trial. Past reports have already shown us that they have political influence internationally, but these required some kind of brokerage deal apparently. This is the first public statement I've seen where their intentions to remove the "middle man" were made clear.

The thing that seems consistent with these "organizations" is that they seem to focus on two things: 1) mind control 2) human trafficking. And of course, there is the big money that is involved all along the way.

Please continue to post any relevant info here -- that goes for everyone. It doesn't just have to be related to NXIVM. We are working to connect the dots here.


RE: NXIVM Updates - Fritzy Ritz - 05-21-2019

(05-21-2019, 04:21 PM)Pure Rock fury Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 11:20 AM)Fritzy Ritz Wrote: CBC has been doing an excellent podcast series called "Escaping NXIVM" in which they interview several members about their experiences. They just released a "bonus" episode talking about the trial, and with a reaction from Sarah Edmundson. It's a good listen and very balanced coverage.
Link here: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1522770499540

Thanks.  I do get cbc on one of my pre programmed built In internet channels on the tv.
It sucks to say I am not surprised at all with trying to implement some of their cult into high level gvt positions.  The Scientologists tried and it seems like this guy patterned much of his ideas after them.  Or cherry picked them.  And, unfortunately, not surprised that some of the cult members have embraced the spotlight as, as cults are designed to make you feel above the rest, and B: there are many rich and famous people in this shit that it appeals to with others and Hollywood...

You raise a point that I hadn't really considered before: that being how cults are designed to make their members feel superior to the rest of humanity. The attention they'll be getting from the vulture media is certainly going to reinforce the idea of their "specialness." But how will they transition afterwards?

In today's testimoney, Lauren Salzman talks about the woman she kept imprisoned in a room for two years. At one point, the woman's mother (also in NXIVM) came up to stay in the room next to her, as a sort of supportive measure. But then the mother got called back to Mexico for a funeral, and instead of returning to Albany, the mother joined a dfferent "self help" group. The daughter is free now, of course, but how does she ever put her life back to something resembling normal after an experience like this?