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"After months of uncertainty, Vice President Mike Pence assured crew members aboard USS Harry S. Truman that the aircraft carrier will not see an early retirement."
Short video @ link

https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/article...35588de27a?
Aircraft carriers are obsolete. God help those poor wretches when SHTF!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_c_PeIIeMw
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(04-30-2019, 02:49 PM)Lobster Boy Wrote: [ -> ]Aircraft carriers are obsolete. God help those poor wretches when SHTF!
(04-30-2019, 02:49 PM)Lobster Boy Wrote: [ -> ]Aircraft carriers are obsolete. God help those poor wretches when SHTF!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_c_PeIIeMw

Lob, I don't know how old you are but, SAMs have been around for a long time.

The video is all CGI. Lots of stuff can be shipped in Conex Boxes (containers). They are heavlly X Rayed in most ports, both coming and going.

A modern aircraft carrier, and it's accompanying vessels, is one of the world's most lethal elements - right up there with an asteroid shower. One modern carrier group (US and others) is more deadly than the combined forces of "most" nation states.

You might want to do a little research.
@Red Auroras

Trump "Orders" Navy To Keep Supercarrier USS Truman That His Own Budget Asked To Retire

http://www.thedrive.com

There are still unanswered questions about why the Pentagon and the Navy had proposed retiring the flattop early, to begin with.

It is important to immediately note that there is no “decommission order” to rescind. The Trump Administration had formally proposed the plan in its own budget for the upcoming 2020 Fiscal Year, which Congress looked guaranteed to oppose, and now Trump and the Pentagon appear to have abandoned the idea in the face of mounting pressure from Congress.
In February 2019, it first emerged that the Navy was looking to cancel Truman’s RCOH, which would effectively lead to its early retirement sometime in the mid-2020s. If the rehab goes ahead as scheduled, the carrier will be laid up for four years between 2024 and 2028, but will then continue to serve through 2048. Canceling the RCOH would have reportedly freed up between $4 and $5.5 billion for the service to spend on other priorities or otherwise help offset the costs of other major development and acquisition programs over the coming years. This was later revised down to $3.4 billion.

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Still, by all indications, the debate over Truman’s future seems have come to an end and played out in an almost identical manner to discussions about retiring the Nimitz-class carrier USS George Washington in 2014 under President Barack Obama, though it did so much faster in this case. The debate over Washington was wrapped up in a series of mandatory budget cuts known as sequestration, which led significant changes in U.S. military planning and force structure decisions.

More
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27...-to-retire
And all over the local news:

"Truman sailors told to 'clap like we're at a strip club' for Pence's visit to Norfolk carrier"

https://www.wavy.com/news/military/navy/...1967717227
(05-01-2019, 03:59 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: [ -> ]@Red Auroras

Trump "Orders" Navy To Keep Supercarrier USS Truman That His Own Budget Asked To Retire

http://www.thedrive.com

There are still unanswered questions about why the Pentagon and the Navy had proposed retiring the flattop early, to begin with.


The issue lies more with the headaches developed after the Ford made its first at-sea run. Ford went back to the yards mid-July and is still there.

With the new JFK due to be launched in 4thQ 2019 (way ahead of sched) and the keel laid for the Enterprise, let's just say there's a few bugs to be dealt with.
(05-01-2019, 05:03 PM)Red Auroras Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-01-2019, 03:59 PM)MaximalGravity Wrote: [ -> ]@Red Auroras

Trump "Orders" Navy To Keep Supercarrier USS Truman That His Own Budget Asked To Retire

http://www.thedrive.com

There are still unanswered questions about why the Pentagon and the Navy had proposed retiring the flattop early, to begin with.


The issue lies more with the headaches developed after the Ford made its first at-sea run. Ford went back to the yards mid-July and is still there.

With the new JFK due to be launched in 4thQ 2019 (way ahead of sched) and the keel laid for the Enterprise, let's just say there's a few bugs to be dealt with.

Are they primarily involved with the new (magnetic?) catapult launch system ?
https://taskandpurpose.com/trump-aircraf...l-catapult

I understand, some are referring to it as a "green energy saving system" over the steam piston? I'm sure Octo would approve.
Not well informed, but 20 years old doesn't seem old to me! Keep it going! V6sRZf4
(05-01-2019, 07:41 PM)bigD111 Wrote: [ -> ]Not well informed, but 20 years old doesn't seem old to me!  Keep it going!   V6sRZf4

I don't know a lot about ships. I know they rust and need cleaning and modifications every few years. The U-2 and B-52 are pretty old and still on the job. They both have undergone major avionics and hardware upgrades over their lifespans. I think several orders are currently being filled for new U-2's by Lockheed.

So, maybe there are some years left in the Truman. And, it has a reliable steam piston launch system.
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