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Putting companies out of business.

Trump can move unilaterally to stop US subsidies for Chinese shipping

President Donald Trump says the U.S. must seek changes to the United Nations’s Universal Postal Union that ensure “fair and nondiscriminatory rates for goods that promotes unrestricted and undistorted competition,” following complaints from manufacturers about shipments from China.

In an order issued Thursday to the U.S. Postmaster General and the secretaries of State, Treasury and Homeland Security, Trump called for modernizing the monetary reimbursement model for the delivery of goods through the international postal system.

“President Trump is standing up for American workers and companies who are being hurt by this outdated, unfair international agreement on shipping rates.”

“Under the UPU agreement, Chinese senders can mail any package to the U.S. and the Post Office will deliver it for less than $1.50. Meanwhile, U.S. competitors must pay the Postal Service a multiple of that in order to have the same package delivered to the same place.”


This decades old agreement needs to be slashed. The global agreement created by a UN agency, sets postal rates for the world…who knew the UN is in control of this! All the more reason to end this global agreement STAT!

If a person or company sends a letter or package from Norway to the United States, the Norwegian Postal service will handle the leg from Norway to the United States, with the U.S. postal service taking responsibility for shipping it to its final destination. The UPU sets the rates for both legs of the shipment.

THE PROBLEM: Underpricing of the rates set by the UN agency means millions in losses to the U.S. Postal Service. It’s no secret that the Postal Service is financially stretched as it is but this puts more of a financial burden on them. With the emergence of E-commerce, the losses have exploded.


China has taken advantage of the shipping agreement to the detriment of the U.S. One particular aspect of the agreement desperately needs updating. China is still in the same group as they were decades ago! This means the outdated system causes the U.S. to subsidize every package China sends to us!

The countries participating in this UN agreement are rated by how developed they are. China’s rating hasn’t been updated in decades so they’re still in the same tier as they were long ago!

This postal agreement is particularly devastating for small businesses.


Ami Horowitz writes:

In addition to the massive shipping encumbrance we have placed on U.S. businesses, this has turbocharged the losses of the USPS, since the prices under the UPU agreement are well below the real cost of shipping. These losses, absorbed by the USPS and consequently the American taxpayer, currently stand at hundreds of millions annually and are projected to grow to billions over the coming years as e-commerce continues its extraordinary growth.

And Chinese counterfeit products take advantage of the same U.S. shipping subsidy. This victimizes American businesses twice, who pay to ship products that violate their intellectual property rights. The counterfeit goods industry, as a $1.7 trillion market, is costing millions of jobs and is devastating to the U.S. retail market.

A new e-commerce phenomenon called dropshipping is behaving as an accelerant for these negative trends, allowing growing numbers of middlemen to take advantage of the UPU rates. Without ever touching the product, dropshipping middlemen list and resell products from an e-commerce site, at which point the e-commerce site simply ships that product directly to the buyer from China, using the built-in shipping subsidy. This has occurred most notably with the Chinese e-commerce behemoth Ali Baba’s Ali Express. The number of middlemen now exploiting the UPU system is exponentially aggravating America’s postal and e-commerce problems.

The bottom line is that we are subsidizing the demise of our e-commerce industry at a time when this industry is an increasingly important global economic force. Luckily, this agreement could be renegotiated by executive order, bypassing cumbersome and special-interest laden congressional approval. In one fell swoop, President Trump could change this outdated and faulty agreement, putting our U.S. retail businesses on an even footing with our Chinese competitors.
It's tiring to see how many companies get hand outs from the government only to turn the shareholders into million/billionaires


Member countries

Any member country of the United Nations may become a member of the UPU.

Any non-member country of the United Nations may become a UPU member provided that its request is approved by at least two-thirds of the member countries of the UPU. The UPU has now 192 member countries.

Union expenses are financed jointly by the member countries, through a contribution class system. Upon admission to the Union, new member countries are free to choose one of ten contribution classes ranging from one to 50 units. An additional contribution class of one-half unit is reserved for the least developed countries.
Ffs Facepalm

How many other ways are we being screwed?


(08-27-2018, 12:07 PM)It Wrote: [ -> ]Ffs Facepalm

How many other ways are we being screwed?

Dual-citizens do not craft laws for our best interest, only their best interests.
I buy and import hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product from China annually. There are no shipping fees from their end whatsoever. They pay zero/nothing to ship here to me in the US. That's good for me as far as receiving products from China because it keeps my costs down. However, my shipping to China is not free. As a matter-of-fact, anywhere I ship globally costs me money.
(08-27-2018, 11:56 AM)unclelunatic Wrote: [ -> ]It's tiring to see how many companies get hand outs from the government only to turn the shareholders into million/billionaires

and that is why our entire government needs to be purged of the current and all people holding ANY position of power, and replaced with ONLY non political or past political people and or BIG business, need SMART non-influenced people to put this country back on track and start by stopping the bribes allowed by lobbying companies!! just ONE of hundred of steps to be taken!!