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As expected, Mexico has just elected its first leftist president in decades, with Andrés Manuel López Obrador (or AMLO) winning in a landslide and a near majority outright, or 49% of the vote early exit polls showed; right-left coalition leader Ricardo Anaya, in distant second place with 27% and the incumbent PRI party's Jose Antonio Meade, with 18%.

And, as Bloomberg headlines flash red, Obrador is now de facto president as his main rivals have conceded:

MEXICO'S LOPEZ OBRADOR SET TO WIN AS MAIN RIVALS CONCEDE

And, adding to the concerns that AMLO may start rolling back energy privatization programs and issue more debt, is that his Morena party just won a majority in the Lower House:

MEXICO'S OBRADOR POISED TO GET MAJORITY IN LOWER HOUSE: POLL

The victory of AMLO, who suffered defeats in the last two presidential votes, will hardly come as a surprise, as has led by double digit numbers throughout this campaign. His popularity stems from his antiestablishment platform (sound familiar?) which has been riding a public revolt against entrenched corruption, rampant violence and an economy that’s failed to deliver higher living standards for the common man and especially the poor, which comprise about half of Mexico’s 125 million population. He also campaigned with promises for economic reform that has been underlined by a desire to freeze prices of gasoline in Mexico for 3 years, as well as a reduction of external investment in the energy sector.

AMLO has also promised to ramp up social programs and, like so many of his antiestablishment peers, has vowed to fund them without deficit-spending by eliminating graft, a claim which as Bloomberg laconically adds, "has been greeted skeptically by economists." He’s also promised not to nationalize companies or quit Nafta. Investors are worried however that he may cancel oil contracts signed as part of outgoing President Enrique Pena Nieto’s energy reforms.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-0...-landslide

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speaking of leftists, are there any on this forum? or is this mostly a right wing echo chamber.
(07-02-2018, 02:46 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]speaking of leftists, are there any on this forum? or is this mostly a right wing echo chamber.

Obrador - may be - we wait and see - "our" type of person = "Anti-Establishment"...

The people who don't last in this forum community very long are the "Antidisestablishmentarianism" types...

I.E. The ones who love the establishment so much they will blindly attack those who oppose it!

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(07-02-2018, 02:54 PM)Munchaab Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-02-2018, 02:46 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]speaking of leftists, are there any on this forum? or is this mostly a right wing echo chamber.

Obrador - may be - we wait and see - "our" type of person = "Anti-Establishment"...

The people who don't last in this forum community very long are the "Antidisestablishmentarianism" types...

I.E. The ones who love the establishment so much they will blindly attack those who oppose it!

aha. trumpistas. ok, i'm down with that. to a point. i will call you out when you refer to him as GEOTUS
Is't this the guy who told Mexicans to mass migrate to the US? sounds like he's a shitty dude.
(07-02-2018, 06:11 PM)friedrich Wrote: [ -> ]Is't this the guy who told Mexicans to mass migrate to the US? sounds like he's a shitty dude.

Not exactly . He ' s far from " Leftist " by current Political Standards .

Jim Stone has been Expatriated in Mexico for some Years now . He has a local view if You are interested .

There is only one thing Obrador ever did that might make Americans nervous:

About 8 months ago he expressed strong support for illegal immigrants in California. Conspiracy sites have milked this for fear porn, promising Americans a "mexican invasion". The problem with this however is that Obrador is going to give the class of Mexicans that run to America a reason to stay in Mexico. I have said this more than once on this site. I am not ignorant to the fact that Obrador is sympathetic to the illegals, but he is also a nationalist and would definitely understand America's sentiment toward illegals. The end result is that I predict there will be no flood of illegals heading north under Obrador, and will claim in advance my prediction is spot on. It would be far more popular to throw fear porn out there, but I am VERY optimistic about Obrador.

http://82.221.129.208

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Jims take :

Obrador Predictions:

1. Mexico will not pay for the wall.

2. Fewer Mexicans will try to cross the border.

3. The cartels won't be what they were, but might find a way to survive in some form.

4. Obrador will be declared a terrorist for being anti-globalist (but some other reason will be fronted)

5. Possible (if Obrador screws up) The Mexicans that do try to cross the border will be heavily seeded with independent types with a net worth of 10 million USD or more. This will cause the image of "Mexican immigrant" to change. Obrador is not stupid, and might make things work while avoiding this.

6. Mexico will definitely be punished by Europe, but may circumvent this by striking decent deals with the U.S., while China makes a huge move into Mexico and Russia pays a less prominent visit. It would be best for Trump to play nice economically now and try to trade on equal terms or there will be a huge Chinese problem south of the border. The Chinese will not be stupid with this, and Obrador will let them in, provided in return they pay well and provide jobs. China won't be allowed to dump goods on Mexico, but will be allowed to invest in Mexico and employ Mexicans provided China pays reasonably.

7. If Obrador strikes the deal with China I mentioned above, Mexico will rank in the top 10 countries economically (they are now at #15) regardless of what Europe or Trump tries to do to Mexico. We will have to wait and see what Obrador does now when faced with tough decisions after Europe (and possibly the U.S.) sanctions Mexico for not going NWO.

8. If Obrador succeeds anywhere near as well as he would if he was not messed with, a large number of illegals who actually work will head south. Those receiving excessive welfare will stay in the U.S. anyway because Obrador won't give them as much.

9. There will be numerous assassination attempts on Obrador, but he will (probably) be able to survive them due to the fact he's very experienced and very well supported.

10. In time, Mexico will become a net exporter of oil to the U.S. - the corrupted previous governments have prevented Mexico from accessing it's own resources. Obrador will change that.


http://82.221.129.208

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(07-02-2018, 02:46 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]speaking of leftists, are there any on this forum? or is this mostly a right wing echo chamber.

Better than a left wing chamberpot.
I am a Libertarian. Does that count?
(07-02-2018, 02:46 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]speaking of leftists, are there any on this forum? or is this mostly a right wing echo chamber.

I doubt many of us think of this forum as left or right. The members here are about respect and appreciation for each other and all views are accepted.

I on the other hand despise anything liberal.
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