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(04-23-2018, 11:05 PM)T-Dub Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:54 PM)Highlander Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:45 PM)T-Dub Wrote: [ -> ]give your body time to adjust.98/73 is not terrible. My bp was always in the 140's/90's with spikes 190/110. I'm paying for it now at 52. Thank you kaiser permente for not listening to me for 10 years.

Thanks T-Dub. thas a good point. ived spike to those levels too. although I dont show any damage.

Just kinda freaked me out.

I have a BP cuff to check.

I get to 190 over 100 at the doc. but it goes back to normal after a few minutes.


Im glad you finally caught the problem.

The damage is done for me. They had me on BP meds that made my chest hurt and my resting heart beat was 110+/-. Now I have hypertensive heart disease. One Dr say's I have heart failure and possible pulmonary hypertension. the other says heart disease but no heart failure yet but something is wrong with my Aorta that I have to get an echo-cardiogram every 6 months. And possible pulmonary hypertension. That shit will kill you fast but they won't confirm it. SO FUCK'EM.  Chuckle

Don't screw around with it if no damage is done yet whatever you do. Best of luck to you.

Good luck to you too.

T-Dub

(04-23-2018, 10:54 PM)Cassie :-) Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:22 PM)Highlander Wrote: [ -> ]Tried new Blood pressure med....had dinner couple beers...thought i was gonna fuckin die....BP was 98 over 73. Im normally like 140 over 90, bit I have "white coat syndrome" They dont know if I actually Have High blood presure...I almost passed out.

I knew this was gonna happen.

Im in my late forties in good shape.

Blood pressure meds are snake venom.

https://www.google.com/search?q=blood+pr...8&oe=utf-8

Lisinopril was the one giving me problems but keiser permanente would not take me off of them. when blood pressure was spiking all the time their answer was to double the dose. That was what made my chest hurt and made my heart race.
Celery seed has long been used to treat hypertension in China.

Celery Seed Capsules - Cheap natural remedy + Read reviews here.

https://www.amazon.com/Swanson-Celery-Se...merReviews
(04-23-2018, 11:16 PM)Debauchery Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:22 PM)Highlander Wrote: [ -> ]Tried new Blood pressure med....had dinner couple beers...thought i was gonna fuckin die....BP was 98 over 73. Im normally like 140 over 90, bit I have "white coat syndrome" They dont know if I actually Have High blood presure...I almost passed out.

I knew this was gonna happen.

Im in my late forties in good shape.

Oh lordy. Take it easy until your body adjusts. We don't want you falling over and breaking a limb or slamming your head into something.

Last time i did that, I was drunk and knocked a tooth out. lol
5000 MG each of Vitamin C and L Lysine will break down all the crud buildup in your arteries, you will notice the difference after the first day of it, I do my "flush" as I call it once a month, have been doing it for about 10 years now and I'm 54 and just did a 32 mile bike ride Saturday, got 7524 miles on my old 10-speed bike odometer.
(04-23-2018, 11:21 PM)T-Dub Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 11:14 PM)Debauchery Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 11:05 PM)T-Dub Wrote: [ -> ]The damage is done for me. They had me on BP meds that made my chest hurt and my resting heart beat was 110+/-. Now I have hypertensive heart disease. One Dr say's I have heart failure and possible pulmonary hypertension. the other says heart disease but no heart failure yet but something is wrong with my Aorta that I have to get an echo-cardiogram every 6 months. And possible pulmonary hypertension. That shit will kill you fast but they won't confirm it. SO FUCK'EM.  Chuckle

Don't screw around with it if no damage is done yet whatever you do. Best of luck to you.

Have you done any research on herbs/plants/supplements that may poosibly help reverse the damage or maybe even heal you to some extent?

I'll try anything but whatever side of the heart feed the lungs has enlarged to the point where the blood flow is not what it supposed to be. Everything I have read is it's irreversible. I can gain or lose almost 40lbs of fluid in a 5 week period. I think I R Fucked.

I'm certainly no expert but I truly believe we were given everything we need to help/heal our body, kill disease and infection, all through plants. It can't hurt to try, right? Of course you'd have to make sure the herbs or supplements wouldn't worsen your condition before you jumped in. If you have the time you should check it out. If something could help you feel better and get better that would be wonderful. I don't trust doctors when they say something can't be reversed. I don't trust most articles. I do have more trust in homeopathic remedies and practitioners of natural medicine. MD's have a lot to lose if you aen't relying on shitty meds and constant care.

I've been checking into heart supplements recently. I have chest pain often. The heart is one of those organs that scare the hell out of me. Heart disease, heart attacks, and a whole host of other issues start popping up when you hit 40. I know part of the reason why I have the pain but I haven't really bothered with scans or tests, probably because of fear. In 2008 I had a pulmonary embolism, more than 70 clots shot up through my left lung and heart. I've been told it can cause permanent damage to the heart and I know for sure it affected my lung but beyond that I don't know much.
(04-23-2018, 11:25 PM)T-Dub Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:54 PM)Cassie :-) Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:22 PM)Highlander Wrote: [ -> ]Tried new Blood pressure med....had dinner couple beers...thought i was gonna fuckin die....BP was 98 over 73. Im normally like 140 over 90, bit I have "white coat syndrome" They dont know if I actually Have High blood presure...I almost passed out.

I knew this was gonna happen.

Im in my late forties in good shape.

Blood pressure meds are snake venom.

https://www.google.com/search?q=blood+pr...8&oe=utf-8

Lisinopril was the one giving me problems but keiser permanente would not take me off of them. when blood pressure was spiking all the time their answer was to double the dose. That was what made my chest hurt and made my heart race.

The problem with these meds is that the longer you are on them, they lessen the body's ability to regulate blood pressure. So it gets higher and higher and defeats the purpose. Try celery seed its actually good for you. Hawthorn capsules are very good too, they cost a bit more though. Hawthorn is good for heart failure.

Hawthorn is an herbal remedy for high blood pressure that has been used in traditional Chinese medicines for thousands of years. In rodents, extracts of hawthorn seem to have a whole host of benefits on cardiovascular health, including helping reduce blood pressure, preventing hardening of the arteries, and lowering cholesterol.

READ REVIEWS here
https://www.amazon.com/Formulas-Hawthorn...merReviews

T-Dub

Thank folks, I'm gonna look into all you're suggestions. I'm tired of feeling like a tic turd. Chuckle
(04-23-2018, 11:25 PM)T-Dub Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:54 PM)Cassie :-) Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2018, 10:22 PM)Highlander Wrote: [ -> ]Tried new Blood pressure med....had dinner couple beers...thought i was gonna fuckin die....BP was 98 over 73. Im normally like 140 over 90, bit I have "white coat syndrome" They dont know if I actually Have High blood presure...I almost passed out.

I knew this was gonna happen.

Im in my late forties in good shape.

Blood pressure meds are snake venom.

https://www.google.com/search?q=blood+pr...8&oe=utf-8

Lisinopril was the one giving me problems but keiser permanente would not take me off of them. when blood pressure was spiking all the time their answer was to double the dose. That was what made my chest hurt and made my heart race.

Talk to your doctor about replacing the Lisinopril with Entresto. I have been doing well on it along with Metoprolol, lasix, potassium and digoxin. My BP averages about 90 over 70 and I feel fine now that I am used to it being so low. I also take CoQ10, Hawthorn berry, arjuna terminalia, magnesium, B complex vitamins, multi vitamin and a few other things.

https://examine.com/supplements/terminalia-arjuna/
I know I was recommended lots of beet juice, hibiscus tea, good omega 3 pills, eating a whole avocado every night before bed, cook with coconut oil or butter and lots and lots of water and green veggies. The meds fuck us up more then the health issue.
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