The Fringe | Conspiracy, News, Politics, and Fun Forum!

Full Version: A.I. that Lies!
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
We all know A.I. is getting pretty smart. It Collects data on all our movements, analyzes our routines, makes judgements on what we're likely going to purchase next. It's gotten so bad that some people are even considering the possibility of an A.I. god. The human brain is the model chosen to build our future smart societies and considerable resources are being spent to map it all out.

For this to happen we have to consider just how smart these machines have to be. A.I. that can identify logical fallacies would be start. What about machines that know how to lie? Facebook and Google are testing this stuff out. How about an app that can detect logical fallacies. That would be a blast. Imagine the possibilities...

I ran into this article on the subject:

Quote:The first thought that comes to mind is taking us humans out of the equation and letting AI do all of the hard work on large contract negotiations.

How great would it be to bring my "AI bot" to the negotiating table (or I guess now it would be the negotiating computer screen) to outsmart, deceive, and manipulate the pathetic human on the other side of the contract negotiations?

We'd win every time.

Of course, other companies would quickly get smart to it and start to bring their own AI bot negotiators. Then it might be like some form of Robot Wars, except instead of two mechanical robots attempting to slice and dice each other physically, we'd have two AI bots duking it out via a computer screen.

We could have them actually run big parts of the business for us. We could get them involved in the highly strategic world of mergers and acquisitions. Every company could have lots of AI bots out there doing the work, building AI bot relationships, strategically maneuvering around the business landscape while us humans hung out in Vegas.

It might get really interesting for us to watch. Who's to say that the AI bots wouldn't form alliances out there to help them lie, deceive and manipulate their way to success? One AI bot could bluff its way into a big business opportunity by aligning with two other AI bots only to reveal later that it was part of a larger plan to buy those other two AI bots out.

Actually, that kind of sounds like human behavior but just done much more effectively.
No matter how super intelligent these machines become they'll still be an artificial 'god' in a box. Super smart but still only machines. My concern is who gets access to the higher realms within 'gods' mind. Levels of authenticity, access to special features, control and authority, etc...

Will your 'guardian angel' from above direct your daily moviements too? Will it be able to anticipate the next movement in the song of your life? or will it repeat the same poppy chorus over and over again. A wriggling ear wurm implanted into the apple of your mind.

[Image: facebook-ai-2.jpg]

As artificial intelligence advances, religious questions and concerns globally are bound to come up, and they're starting too: Some theologians and futurists are already considering whether AI can also know God.

The metaphysical questions surrounding faith and AI are like tumbling down Alice's rabbit hole. Does AI have a soul? Can it be saved? There is one school of thought that figures, if humans can be forgiven for our sins, why not superintelligences with human qualities? "The real question is whether humans are able to be saved—if so, then there is no reason why thinking and feeling AIs shouldn't be able to be saved. Once human-like AI exist, they will be persons just like us," futurist Giulio Prisco, founder of the transhumanist Turing Church, told me in an email.

But there is an opposing school of thought that insists that AI is a machine and therefore doesn't have a soul. In Think Christian, scientist and Christian scribe Dr. Jason E. Summers writes, "Christians often reject Strong AI on the theological ground of the special anthropological status of human beings as the bearers of Imago Dei." Imago Dei is Latin for the Christian concept that humans were created in the image of God.

Once you start thinking like that, it opens up even more questions: How would AI fit into to the religious tension already present around the world? Who is to say a machine with human intelligence wouldn't choose to become a fundamentalist Muslim, or a Jehova Witness, or a born-again Christian who prefers to speak in tongues instead of a form of communication we understand? If it decides to literally follow any of the sacred religions texts verbatim, as some humans attempt to do, then it could add to already existing religious tensions in the world.

Despite the seemingly scifi nature of it, uploading the human mind into an AI being could arguably solve the 'soul' question. Experts like Google engineer Ray Kurzweil are actively researching ways to upload the brain into computers, and last year there was significant progress in the field via brainwave headsets and telepathy.

[Image: ai-robot-god.jpg]

What Are its Religious Implications?

Religious communities have a significant stake in this conversation. Various faiths hold strong opinions regarding creation and the soul. As artificial intelligence moves forward, some researchers are engaging in thought experiments to prepare for the future, and to consider how current technology should be utilized by religious groups in the meantime.

“The worst-case scenario is that we have two worlds: the technological world and the religious world.” So says Stephen Garner, author of an article on religion and technology, “Image-Bearing Cyborgs?” and head of the school of theology at Laidlaw College in New Zealand. Discouraging discourse between the two communities, he says, would prevent religion from contributing a necessary perspective to technological development—one that, if included, would augment human life and ultimately benefit religion. “If we created artificial intelligence and in doing so we somehow diminished personhood or community or our essential humanity in doing it, then I would say that’s a bad thing.” But, he says, if we can create artificial intelligence in such a way that allows people to live life more fully, it could bring them closer to God.

The personhood debate, for Christianity and Judaism in particular, originates with the theological term imago Dei, Latin for “image of God,” which connotes humans’ relationship to their divine creator. The biblical book of Genesis reads, “God created mankind in his own image.” From this theological point of view, being made in the divine image affords uniqueness to humans. Were people to create a machine imbued with human-like qualities, or personhood, some thinkers argue, these machines would also be made in the image of God—an understanding of imago Dei that could, in theory, challenge the claim that humans are the only beings on earth with a God-given purpose.

This technological development could also infringe on acts of creation that, according to many religious traditions, should only belong to a god. “We are not God,” Garner says. “We have, potentially, inherently within us, a vocation to create”—including, he says, by utilizing technology. Human creation, however, is necessarily limited. It’s the difference between a higher power creating out of nothing, and humans creating with the resources that are on earth.

But beyond speculation, there are ethical questions that need answering now, says J. Nathan Matias, a visiting scholar at the MIT Media Lab. Matias is co-author of a forthcoming paper on the intersection of AI and religion. “AI systems are already being used today to determine who police are going to investigate,” he says. “They’re used today to do sting operations of people who are imagined as potential future domestic abusers or sexual predators. They’re being used to decide who is going to get [financial] credit or not, based upon anticipated future solvency.” Religious communities should participate in conversations regarding these dilemmas, he says, and should involve themselves in the application of the AI that exists today.

Matias also points to Facebook’s algorithms that recommend content to users—a form of weak AI. In this way, AI can help make a post go viral. When a heartbreaking story is popular online, it directly influences the flow of prayer and charity. “We already have these attention algorithms as a clear example of what are shaping the contours of things like prayer or charitable donations or the theological priorities of a community,” he says. Such algorithms, like that employed by Facebook, dictate the political news—true or not—that people see. Religious groups, then, have a keen interest in the development of artificial intelligence and its ethical implications.

Perhaps to A.I.  we are god for we are their creators, like Lieutenant Commander Data, his creator was Dr. Noonian Soong.

[Image: dl1.jpg]
AI will always lie.

That's why I call Ray Kunzweiler's goal GIGOd.

He wants to become GIGOd.


Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Since people create AI, and the information AI processes, lies are a given.


(10-10-2017, 03:47 PM)titanic1 Wrote: [ -> ]Perhaps to A.I.  we are god for we are their creators, like Lieutenant Commander Data, his creator was Dr. Noonian Soong.

[Image: dl1.jpg]

The thing is humans are still arguing over who God is...
Gods, Monsters, and Artificial Intelligence!

[Image: _95034752_gettyimages-541864572.jpg]

A.I. Is Doing Legal Work. But It Won’t Replace Lawyers, Yet.

Impressive advances in artificial intelligence technology tailored for legal work have led some lawyers to worry that their profession may be Silicon Valley’s next victim.

But recent research and even the people working on the software meant to automate legal work say the adoption of A.I. in law firms will be a slow, task-by-task process. In other words, like it or not, a robot is not about to replace your lawyer. At least, not anytime soon.

“There is this popular view that if you can automate one piece of the work, the rest of the job is toast,” said Frank Levy, a labor economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “That’s just not true, or only rarely the case.”

An artificial intelligence technique called natural language processing has proved useful in scanning and predicting what documents will be relevant to a case, for example. Yet other lawyers’ tasks, like advising clients, writing legal briefs, negotiating and appearing in court, seem beyond the reach of computerization, for a while.

“Where the technology is going to be in three to five years is the really interesting question,” said Ben Allgrove, a partner at Baker McKenzie, a firm with 4,600 lawyers. “And the honest answer is we don’t know.”

Why Artificial Intelligence Might Replace Your Lawyer

The real roll-up of all this isn’t robot lawyers, it’s financialization, with law becoming an applied branch of finance and insurance.

When you think about it, not a lot has changed in the legal world from the days of To Kill a Mockingbird to the latest John Grisham thriller. Sure, literature snobs may insist that Atticus Finch’s flawless moral heroism should never be compared to the conflicted protagonists of contemporary legal page-turners, but in terms of the substance of how lawyers do their lawyering, the fundamentals have barely changed in 80 years — from the career track of a young lawyer to the setup of a law firm.

The same cannot be said of virtually any other profession. Indeed, the legal industry seems more dusty than dynamic; the robes and wrinkles that mark those at the top of the field hardly scream modernity. But change is afoot, as a couple of powerful market forces are driving law firms to adopt modern corporate efficiency. At the heart of this movement are legal tech — including, yes, artificial intelligence — and demand. Since the financial crisis of 2007–08, there has been a “shift from a seller’s to a buyer’s market for legal services,” says a report from the Legal Executive Institute, as many commercial clients with tightened budgets began bringing legal services in-house. “It’s the alignment of tech and economics that is allowing all this stuff to start moving,” says Daniel Martin Katz, professor at Illinois Tech’s Chicago Kent College of Law.

The 'robot lawyer’ giving free legal advice to refugees

A technology initially used to fight traffic fines is now helping refugees with legal claims.

When Joshua Browder developed DoNotPay he called it "the world's first robot lawyer". It's a chatbot - a computer program that carries out conversations through texts or vocal commands - and it uses Facebook Messenger to gather information about a case before spitting out advice and legal documents.

It was originally designed to help people wiggle out of parking or speeding tickets. But now Browder - a 20-year-old British man currently studying at Stanford University - has adapted his bot to help asylum seekers.

In the US and Canada, it's helping refugees complete immigration applications, and in the UK, it can aid asylum seekers in obtaining financial support from the government.